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Posted: 5/31/2003 4:43:43 AM EDT
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Newbushmaster-
I spent alot of time mountainbiking in the area around those mountains and was constantly being stopped by agents on the trails asking questions and being detained. Black helicopters everywhere. You know the locals even liked the guy. There were t-shirts being printed up in that area saying "Hide and seek champion" with Eric's photo on the back. Hell alot of people had thought he had died in the mountains or had escaped the country. Gemologist[x]BLOAT Buy Lots Of Ammo Today |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 4:47:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Damm! Fire up the chair.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:16:16 AM EDT
[#3]
damn
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:30:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Yeah...this is all that will be on the news for a month now. So much ridiculous theory and conjecture just like w/ McVeigh. One report just said he might have learned to make bombs when he was in the Army...STFU..just grasping at nonsense right now and it's not even confirmed it is Rudolf.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:33:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Press conference 1300 eastern. Sure sounds like they caught the sumbich. [:D]
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:35:16 AM EDT
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the best sounding theory i heard about where he was hiding said that he was living in caves with under water entrances
be interesting to see if that was true |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:37:40 AM EDT
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Caught the individual as a homeless man rummaging through a dumpster. The person is mentally "debilitated". If its Rudolph, running has taken its toll on a mind that was already extreme. Its been a long game of hide-and-go-seek, that's for sure.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:42:29 AM EDT
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Olympics Bomb Suspect May Be in Custody
May 31, 9:16 AM (ET) By TIM WHITMIRE (AP) CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - Sheriff's deputies arrested a man in the western North Carolina mountains early Saturday believed to be Eric Rudolph, the fugitive charged with the 1996 Olympic Park bombing and in bomb attacks at a gay nightclub and an abortion clinic, the FBI said. The man was digging in a trash bin in the small town of Murphy when he was stopped at about 4:30 a.m., said Special Agent John Iannarelli in Washington. He said the man appeared to be homeless, but the deputies believe he is Rudolph. Authorities were doing fingerprint analysis on the man Saturday morning to determine if his prints matched Rudolph's, and they expected to have the results by afternoon, Iannarelli said. A law enforcement source in North Carolina who has been tracking Rudolph for years said he had seen the who was suspect arrested Saturday morning and he believes he is Rudolph. See: [url]http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030531/D7RCAMHG1.html[/url] |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:45:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yeah...this is all that will be on the news for a month now. So much ridiculous theory and conjecture just like w/ McVeigh. One report just said he might have learned to make bombs when he was in the Army...STFU..just grasping at nonsense right now and it's not even confirmed it is Rudolf. Umm, Since from what I remember of the news when it was big around here, he was a 12B (combat engineer) in the Army, so yes he did learn to make bombs......... |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:54:13 AM EDT
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FNC just mentioned that fingerprints confirm it's him.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 5:59:25 AM EDT
[#11]
Are we sure it isn't [i]Richard Jewel[/i] ? [;D]
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:08:16 AM EDT
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Q: How many years does it take the FBI, spending tens of millions of dollars, to catch a guy who never left the area?
A: They can't, it took a local deputy on patrol! |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:12:34 AM EDT
[#13]
DAMMIT!
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:13:03 AM EDT
[#14]
So did they shoot him in the face and/or a chick holding a baby...?
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:16:33 AM EDT
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12B? Hmmmm...why didn't they just say that instead of the blanket "You've been in the Army so you must have learned to make a nuke" type crap they always bring up?
I'm not trying to argue w/ you, Sir...just pointing out how the media always does this stuff when they have nothing concrete to report. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:17:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: So did they shoot him in the face and/or a chick holding a baby...? [img]http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-034.gif[/img] |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:17:15 AM EDT
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Caught is caught.
Eric: Meet Sparky... [img]http://www.angolamuseum.org/images/chair-2001.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:22:48 AM EDT
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Well I can tell you that I personnaly do not agree with homosexuality or abortion..but killing people because you don't agree with their choices does not justify murder. Now if a bunch of homos came running at me with that 1000yd stare...well I might have to defend myself[BD]!!
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:33:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Innocent untill proven guilty. Try to keep your prejudices at bay untill the trial is over. Remember Richard Jewell? How about Randy Weaver? David Koresch ring a bell?
"I heard it from Dan Rather so it must be true"! |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:34:25 AM EDT
[#20]
That's too bad.....
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:43:28 AM EDT
[#21]
I drove through the Smokey mountains along TN and NC/SC last week. If that's the area where he could have been hiding out I could see someone with any wilderness camping experience up there A LONG TIME, particularly if some people were helping the turd out with food supplies. Some of that terrain would be a BITCH to search on foot or with helicopters.
If he did what he is accused of I hope they kill the weasel. I assume murdering a police officer in Alabama can get you the chair there, right? |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 6:53:09 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Now if a bunch of homos came running at me with that 1000yd stare...well I might have to defend myself[BD]!! Gemologist[x]BLOAT Buy Lots Of Ammo Today |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:00:27 AM EDT
[#23]
Aimless
You hit the nail on the head about the terrain. Anyone with formal training could disappear in those mountains forever. That area is well known for its rough mountains,caves and deep woods. I had never seen so many men in black in my life not to mention helicopters and the like. My friends and I would ride mountain bikes in Tsali and around the Murphy,NC. area where the FEDS were hanging out. I tell ya..the locals didn't like the fact that there were so many G-men around. Lots of guerilla farming and other illegal activities up in them there hills [BD]!! Gemologist[x]BLOAT Buy Lots Of Ammo Today |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:03:04 AM EDT
[#24]
Aimless,
Me too...I stayed Memorial weekend in Clayton Ga. Nice area up there...My Uncle lives up there. We went to eat In Franklin N.C. and my Uncle even commented about Rudolf. He said everyone thinks he's dead...he said no way, there's too many places to hide in those Mts. Amazing feat in any case...because of the winters and elude thousands of LEO's, dogs, heli's and tons of traps. Amazing. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:23:57 AM EDT
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Woah. I'd written him off as dead or far, far away. If he really was in the woods that whole time it would have to rank as one of the great escape-and-evasions of all time.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:29:25 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: Aimless You hit the nail on the head about the terrain. Anyone with formal training could disappear in those mountains forever. That area is well known for its rough mountains,caves and deep woods. I had never seen so many men in black in my life not to mention helicopters and the like. My friends and I would ride mountain bikes in Tsali and around the Murphy,TN. area where the FEDS were hanging out. I tell ya..the locals didn't like the fact that there were so many G-men around. Lots of guerilla farming and other illegal activities up in them there hills [BD]!! Gemologist[x]BLOAT Buy Lots Of Ammo Today BS! I live in the WNC mountains and there is NO WAY that a person could hide out that long. There are TOO MANY PEOPLE in all areas of the mountains. Too many Atlantans building homes up in the national forests. Plus there isn't a whole lot of wilderness. The largest wilderness in WNC is 18,400 acres. That's it. And most wilderness areas are CRAWLING with yuppie, pro choice hikers. CRC |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:34:06 AM EDT
[#27]
Well damn Mr.CRC I'm sorry you don't agree..You obviously don't like "outsiders" either. With all due respect..Do you even have a clue as to how big the Nantahala and Cherokee National forests are?
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:36:21 AM EDT
[#28]
This definetly has the makings for a tv or motion picture! Although I could see hollywood changing the ending from being caught rumaging through a trash dumpster by local deputies... to surrendering after a massive shootout in the deep woods!
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:46:46 AM EDT
[#29]
when did they pin the Olympic Park bombing on him?
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:50:41 AM EDT
[#30]
fbi press conference 11am central time.
mike |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:52:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Well damn Mr.CRC I'm sorry you don't agree..You obviously don't like "outsiders" either. With all due respect..Do you even have a clue as to how big the Nantahala and Cherokee National forests are? Gemologist[x]BLOAT The Nantahala NF is over 500,000 acres and the Cherokee is over 600,000 acres. The Nantahala has 2 major wilderness areas but none near Murphy (Southern Nantahala and Slickrock). However that is 500,000 acres spread over 7 counties. He was probably hiding out on private land of a supporter. CRC |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:54:03 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: yuppie, pro choice hikers. CRC Unfortunately we didn't have a chance to do any hiking, though it looks like a beautiful area. Most hikers don't go far off trails, I would guess particularly city folk. Heck I am amazed at how many don't have a map (although I have done that sometimes) but don't even HAVE A COMPASS OR KNOW HOW TO USE ONE!! I know in areas where I hike I could easily be pretty darn close to a hiking trail and not be discovered. You can usually hear these people tramping along and talking for 100s of yards. I'd bet I could even stay in line of sight of the trail if I had camouflage clothing and not be spotted by most people. Heck if deer don't see me a Sunday hiker sure won't. I didn't see your other post, what was the area like where he was caught? I wonder if it was just getting to him being alone up there and he lost the discipline to stay hidden, or maybe he just ran out of food? Hunting, unless he was bow hunting or trapping would probably be pretty dangerous for him and getting ammo could be a little trickier than sneaking into town or burglarizing isolated homes to steal food. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:57:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: Quoted: yuppie, pro choice hikers. CRC Unfortunately we didn't have a chance to do any hiking, though it looks like a beautiful area. Most hikers don't go far off trails, I would guess particularly city folk. Heck I am amazed at how many don't have a map (although I have done that sometimes) but don't even HAVE A COMPASS OR KNOW HOW TO USE ONE!! I know in areas where I hike I could easily be pretty darn close to a hiking trail and not be discovered. You can usually hear these people tramping along and talking for 100s of yards. I'd bet I could even stay in line of sight of the trail if I had camouflage clothing and not be spotted by most people. Heck if deer don't see me a Sunday hiker sure won't. Your the exception Aimless. Also these areas are CRAWLING with branola eating, Bambi hugging New Age hippies. NOW they go off trails- mainly to commune with nature but if they saw Rudolph, I feel sorry for Mr Rudolph. Those hippies love their baby killing and Bambi loving. They've been known to attack hunters up in the Pisgah NF. CRC |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:58:40 AM EDT
[#34]
Olympic Park, Gay night club....HA HA HA HA HA HA. Just wait, by the time this is done, the media will have claimed that he was on the grassy knoll and helped Oswald take-out Kennedy.
Media sucks. Im completely sick of these fuckers'UNEDUCATED views on what goes on in the commission of crimes. A fair trial is NO LONGER possible in the United States. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 7:59:31 AM EDT
[#35]
I dunno CRC, I live here too and there are some areas where one could stay hidden with some effort, mostly the areas around Nantahala lake and such, heck I know the Pigeon River gorge well enough I could hide there as long as I wanted and I-40 runs through it.
Some areas the idiots from FL and GA haven't discovered yet! |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:02:06 AM EDT
[#36]
CRC- I am not surprised to hear that. We stopped in Asheville for a night-WTF? There sure were a lot of New Age Healing places and other modern day feel good witchcraft crap in that town. This is The South? Looked more like some of the hippy towns in upstate NY like Ithaca. [puke]
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:04:50 AM EDT
[#37]
CRC
I completely agree with the fact that he had to be helped. As posted above..some of the locals refered to him as a "hero"..not all..but some. To survive those winters would take a lot of a man without some food and shelter. Gemologist[x]BLOAT |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:07:46 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: I dunno CRC, I live here too and there are some areas where one could stay hidden with some effort, mostly the areas around Nantahala lake and such, heck I know the Pigeon River gorge well enough I could hide there as long as I wanted and I-40 runs through it. Some areas the idiots from FL and GA haven't discovered yet! I hear ya on the Pigeon River Gorge. I think the area between the lake and Waterville is especially rugged. But the area around Nantahala Lake/Aquone was heavily searched. I doubt he was staying there. There is only so long you can hide out on public land before being caught or leaving traces behind that would be spotted. Plus there isn't a whole lot of food on the NF. Acorns mostly. A few trout and wild pig. On the balds some berries. That's about it. CRC |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:20:42 AM EDT
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For me personally this Rudolph thing is not a partisan or political thing, murder is murder. BUT the liberals are pretty incensed and gnasting their teeth over this guy. Now what happens IF IT AIN'T HIM? The FBI's track record isn't too hot on this case, they got the wrong guy in the past
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:36:53 AM EDT
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On CNN.COM: The FBI has positively arrested Rudolph.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/31/rudolph.arrest/index.html[/url] |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 8:52:50 AM EDT
[#41]
Probably a stupid question but I have to ask: Do you guys think the Deputy Sheriff that made the arrest will recieve any portion of the FBI's reward? I wonder how that will work?
If he did what they are saying he did, I hope he meets Ole' Sparky.... |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 9:13:45 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: Probably a stupid question but I have to ask: Do you guys think the Deputy Sheriff that made the arrest will recieve any portion of the FBI's reward? I wonder how that will work? If he did what they are saying he did, I hope he meets Ole' Sparky.... He did it, I have one problem with the charges against him though, The guy had targets for all of his devices eccept one, a random device at the Olympic park. Not his M/O, they threw that one in to get people who would otherwise support him to turn him in. Abortion clinics and Gay nightclubs,if they all blew up today I'd still be asleep by 10:00. And all of you who are screaming "SPARKY", you are either an abortionist or a queer to be that passionate about it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 9:20:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: And all of you who are screaming "SPARKY", you are either an abortionist or a queer to be that passionate about it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 9:25:07 AM EDT
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If he's guilty, I would volunteer to flip the switch on the scumbag.
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Posted: 5/31/2003 9:56:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: murder is murder Unless it's abortion. Then it's a 'right'. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 10:08:42 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: And all of you who are screaming "SPARKY", you are either an abortionist or a queer to be that passionate about it. [rolleyes] CHRIS |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 10:47:36 AM EDT
[#47]
So who gets the million dollar reward ????????????????????????????????????????????
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Posted: 5/31/2003 11:11:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: And all of you who are screaming "SPARKY", you are either an abortionist or a queer to be that passionate about it. Or maybe we just don't believe trying to murder cops and firemen is a way to make a political point, dickhead. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 11:42:11 AM EDT
[#49]
I was sure he was already dead. Lucky they don't have me looking for guys like him.
But the only way he could of hid out for 7 years is if people were helping him-and the only way the cops could of found him is if certain people got tired of helping him. |
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Posted: 5/31/2003 12:11:23 PM EDT
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Anyone that thinks he made it this long on his own and didn't have help from the "Underground" is a fool.
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