http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/20/uk-says-troops-now-allowed-to-reveal-classified-intel-under-interrogation/

The United Kingdom will now allow troops held by extremist organizations like Islamic State to reveal classified information under interrogation. The new policy says U.K. troops will be expected to slowly reveal information and keep extremely sensitive information secret for as long as possible.

Like their American counterparts, U.K. troops were previously only directed to reveal their name, rank, and serial number when captured by enemy forces. The brutal executions and torture of prisoners by extremist groups like ISIS and al-Qaida, led the U.K. government to conclude its current expectations were unrealistic.

The reality is that if you are captured by a terrorist group you will be tortured, one British military force told The Telegraph.  The source elaborated, We are fighting people who dont care about the Geneva conventions. Torture will often be their first weapon of choice during an interrogation.

ISIS in particular is known to repeatedly torture and eventually execute many of its Western prisoners. The terrorist group publicly beheaded British aid worker Alan Henning in October, 2014. The beheading of a British citizen prompted British drone strikes against terrorists in Iraq and Syria.

U.K. troops reportedly are taught a traffic light system with information coded as green, yellow, and red. Green information is the first information troops can reveal to their captors. Red information should be held secret as long as possible, while yellow information can be revealed only after all green information has been revealed.

The U.K. government defended the guidance saying, Personnel are required to give their number, rank, full names and date of birth, and do not have to give any further information. The new rules come amid British special forces deployments in Libya and Iraq.

The British Forces have reportedly been in Libya for over a year, advising local forces amid the fight to retake key cities from ISIS. ISIS reportedly has over 7,000 fighters in Libya, making it the second largest force the terrorists have outside of Iraq and Syria. British Special Forces recently played a key role in helping Libyan forces retake the city of Sirte June 11.


ETA:  It won't make any difference.  

Sooo, ISIS...they are going to kill you no matter what soooo. First rule, do not get taken alive.

So we're told that expecting the good guys to keep sensitive info secret under torture is "unrealistic", but we're also told that if we "torture" people all the info we get will be crap?

That

Plus I thought it was standard procedure to have several bullshit stories to release over time

I came ready to flame them, but I actually get what they're saying.  The complete refusal of cooperation works when other nations decide that torture isn't even worth it.  With modern enemies, they're going to torture you to death anyways.  By giving them a little at a time, you can prolong your survival and make rescue more likely.  Not sure they should have announced it so publicly like that when only a few SF guys are over there, but whatever.

Wait, what?

How many of you old Infantry guys having to remember the "I am an American Fighting Man!"  



Officers and NCO's had to memorize it.


was a part about never surrendering or giving up info.

While I agree, they seem to be using it to keep the people "valuable" longer.  Presumably to allow friendly forces to find and recover them before it shows up on Liveleak.



 

How do you know that's not still the case...

Misinformation campaign in effect: hadji reads in the paper that british soldiers will spill the beans, Tommy spills fake beans, hadji thinks it's legit because he read it in the paper...

Of course, Tommy's still going to die horribly, so I don't know what the upside here is supposed to be...

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That's the more recent "PC" version.   It used to say "American Fighting Man".....not just "American".

I didn't know that.  It turns out Reagan changed it in 1988.



 

If they think your valuable you will get bundled up and moved out of the area very quickly, then handed off to someone higher up the chain who will repeat the process.

Everyone knows torture doesn't work.

Western Civilization is committing suicide.

This.

You have to have faith that the DoD will do everything in its power to get you out alive.



That and don't get captured by ISIS.  You're not a prisoner of war with them and there's a very good chance it's not going to end well for you.



 

Interesting how the effectiveness of a technique magically changes, isn't it?

Well this has the potential to get alot of people killed

This

Always save your last grenade

I think the Kipling approach is preferable to any of that.

Step 1: Don't get captured by ISIS*

Step 2: If captured, fuck em, you getting loved tenderly regardless.





*Insert islamic terrorist clown shoes organization as situation dictates.

Well, ain't that a morale boost.

I am saying that getting caught would suck and end painfully. Rescue unlikely

We used to have a saying in Iraq.  "The last grenade is for you."

I don't disagree.



 

I'm sure I'd sing like a canary if someone started torturing me.

They'd still torture you for shits and giggles.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,

I was wondering if anyone was going to say it.


Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

If captured, they'll be tortured into submission anyway.  This way, they don't have to feel bad about it.