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Posted: 5/21/2003 2:52:55 AM EDT
The orginal that is, you know, the good one.
Anyways, I saw something that I thought really summed up my feelings about firearms.

Right after the apes break Taylor out of the slammer Cornelius and he have this exchange---

Taylor: "Do you have any weapons? Any guns?"

Cornelius: "Of Course, the best, but we wont need them"

Taylor: "Glad to hear it, But I want one anyways"




Just thought I'd post it here, since I dont know anyone that would think that line was neat, laughs.
Anyone else remember it?
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 2:58:20 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm assuming you point is that Apes are smarter than liberal Democrats[:D]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 3:08:57 AM EDT
[#2]
Those chimps were pretty liberal.  That's what made them so naive.  Or is it the other way around?  That's an interesting cause and effect question!
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 3:29:14 AM EDT
[#3]
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I'm assuming you point is that Apes are smarter than liberal Democrats[:D]
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That doesnt take  much smarts though, does it? ;)


The movie made some neat social commentary. I think most of us can agree on that. But the biggest mystery to me is, did the apes reload all that ammo, or did they just find a cache of left overs..hmmmm
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:44:47 AM EDT
[#4]
They must have forges and facilities to produce things, because the movie takes place a couple thousand years in the future IIRC.

Regarding not requiring weapons, their law states ape shall not kill ape, so Cornelius feels he has nothing to fear.  Where they were going is also in the forbidden zone, and the general populace avoids it like the plague.  
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 7:29:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Ahhhh, I see.  The chimps were suffering from the [i]elitist[/i] liberal mindset!  Like some folks in Congress!
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 7:52:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Off-topic a little bit here, but I always liked those carbines the apes carried. What do they remind you of in modern firearms terms? I think the 10/22 International or the Enfield .303...
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:04:07 AM EDT
[#7]
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Off-topic a little bit here, but I always liked those carbines the apes carried. What do they remind you of in modern firearms terms? I think the 10/22 International or the Enfield .303...
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I always got the sense they were more like M1 Carbines.

Oh, and ditto to what Taylor (My Man Chuck!) said...
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:38:31 AM EDT
[#8]
Maybe they were using Hi-point carbines?
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:44:46 AM EDT
[#9]
You realize what an ultimate fantasy ending that movie has?

Charlton Heston is a guy who has:
1. A weapon & ammo
2. Plenty of evil apes to shoot at
3. A good looking woman who can't talk

Who can ask for more than that??
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:46:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
You realize what an ultimate fantasy ending that movie has?

Charlton Heston is a guy who has:
1. A weapon & ammo
2. Plenty of evil apes to shoot at
3. A good looking woman who can't talk

Who can ask for more than that??
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[lol]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:47:41 AM EDT
[#11]
Those guns were actually M1 carbines dressed up with the butthole stocks.  Predictions of things to come.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:57:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:45:28 AM EDT
[#13]
Yea it's kinda of a wierd movie...I didn't know weather to post this here or BOTD.

[img]http://www.moviemantz.com/review_shots/planetorig2.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:48:43 AM EDT
[#14]
remember when the ak's had to have those thumb hole stocks? We always called them the planet of the apes stocks. so ugly.it makes it less of an assault rifle. yeah ok.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:58:32 AM EDT
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Those guns were actually M1 carbines dressed up with the butthole stocks.  Predictions of things to come.
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The rifles were M1 carbines, the subguns were Madsen M50's (I think, the mag was straight, right?) Don't recall any pistols used by the apes in the movies.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 11:04:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Those guns were actually M1 carbines dressed up with the butthole stocks.  Predictions of things to come.
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Butthole, or Thumbhole? Of course, for some people that may be the same thing.
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[LOL]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 11:48:32 AM EDT
[#17]
I had an SKS paratrooper (took AK mags, crude butthole stock) and my brother called it the "damn dirty ape rifle."  He still loved shooting it, probably because he didn't have to clean it.  I would tell him, "get your filthy hands off my damn dirty ape rifle!"

The stock looked like a 7th grade woodshop project, and the cosmoline/ varnish combination made the stock sticky feeling for the first 6 years I owned it.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:49:09 PM EDT
[#18]
I hate every ape I see
From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z

(from The Simpsons)
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:50:30 PM EDT
[#19]

"The Dr. Zaius Song"

    Ape: Help, the human's about to escape.
   Troy: Get your paws off me, you dirty ape.
   Apes: [gasping] He can talk!
   Apes: [in unison, rythmed]
 He can talk
 He can talk
 He can talk
 He can talk
 He can talk
 He can talk
   Troy: [singing] I can siiiiiing!

  [funky beat of "Rock Me Amadeus" starts playing]
Female Nurse Ape: Ooh, help me Dr. Zaius!
   Apes: [in unison]
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
 Oh... Dr. Zaius
    Ape: Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius.

   Troy: What's wrong with me?
  Zaius: I think you're crazy.
   Troy: Want a second opinion.
  Zaius: You're also lazy.

   Apes: [in unison]
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
 Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
  [one ape starts breakdancing]
 Oh... Dr. Zaius
    Ape: Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius.

   Troy: Can I play the piano anymore?
  Zaius: Of course you can.
   Troy: Well I couldn't before!
  [plays piano]

"You'll Never Make a Monkey Out of Me"    

   Troy: [singing]
 I hate every ape I see
 From chimpan-a to chimpan-zee
 No you'll never make a monkey out of me

 Oh my God, I was wrong
 It was Earth all along
 You've finally made a monkey

   Apes: Yes we've finally made a monkey

   Troy: Yes you've finally made a monkey out of me
   Apes: Yes we've  finally made a monkey out of you

   Troy: I love you, Dr. Zaius!
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Link Posted: 5/22/2003 7:39:06 AM EDT
[#20]
[IMG]http://www.scifihollywood.com/images/1-10.jpg[/IMG]

"Planet of the Apes, Beneath the"
20th Century Fox, 1969
This rifle consists of a working World War II carbine encased in a brown-painted metal shell. It was utilized by 'gorillas' in the training sequence of the film as well as the invasion of the 'mutant' liar. It was most notably used by James Franciscus as 'Brent' in the climax of the film to kill 'General Ursus'. It can be distinguished from other 'Ape' rifles in that it has the highly sought after bayonet. Of the three known to exist, this is the one with most of the wood-grain-style paint still in tact and the only one with the working rifle still inside.

http://www.scifihollywood.com/guns/53.html
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:44:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Reminds me of the hideous stocks you'd find on a Norinco Uzi!
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