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Posted: 5/17/2003 1:33:31 PM EDT
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$25,000 bail? For a kitten? That's stinkin' INSANE!
Shouldn't be killing kittens that don't belong to you, but $25k? That's nuts. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 1:38:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Shouldnt be killing kittens at all. Ownership has nothing to do with it.
Bail IS a little high though! |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 1:59:09 PM EDT
[#3]
He's crazy enought to wring the neck of a kitten so I suspect he's no Boy Scout. Let him sit in jail for awhile.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 2:02:04 PM EDT
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And if the guys girlfriend would have had an abortion and killed her baby, that would be OK.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 2:21:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Her word against his on who killed the kitten?
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Posted: 5/17/2003 2:23:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Mr. Trailertrash probably should have been charged with domestic violence too. Killing the kitten appears to be his method of intimidating and controlling the girlfriend. I bet a 53 YO handyman in a trialer park has spent lots of prior time in the graybar hotel.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 2:29:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: I bet a 53 YO handyman in a trialer park has spent lots of prior time in the graybar hotel. shows what you know dumbass |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 2:45:25 PM EDT
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Mr. Trailertrash probably should have been charged with domestic violence too. Killing the kitten appears to be his method of intimidating and controlling the girlfriend Bingo! And this is why the high bail. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 3:18:30 PM EDT
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Simple solution. Someone wring his neck and toss his ass outside. Problem solved, case closed.
BTW Where was and how old is sgtar15? [;D] |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 3:26:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I say burn his house down with him and his whole family inside.
[peep] |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 3:44:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted: Shouldnt be killing kittens at all. Ownership has nothing to do with it. Bail IS a little high though! I'll give you the car-dealer special! $24,999.99! |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 4:16:46 PM EDT
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This is a hoot for sure. This bottom of the pay scale guy gets a $25K bond for kitty murder while people murderes get less bail!
We're going to spend $35,000 a year in tax dollars to put this once tax paying worker now kitty criminal in jail. That makes that kitty worth $105,000. Cats are expensive in CA. In jail, he will learn to be bitter and just how much money he can make and how easy from the pros. I guarantee you when he gets out it won't be kitties he's after. You have to admit this is so stupid it's funny! If you gotta punish the asshole what's wrong with a few days in the county lockup. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 4:17:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Sick individual I hope is ass goes to jail.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 4:25:08 PM EDT
[#14]
If he'd do that to a kitten, he'd do it to a person.
Fuck this recedivistic maggot if he's found guilty. I hope he serves a NIIIIIIIIICE long term with Bubba the well hung homo rapist. 'Course he did that to one of MY cats and he'd not have to worry about a fucking trial. I might, but he wouldn't. Bastard. SG |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 5:54:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: If he'd do that to a kitten, he'd do it to a person. Fuck this recedivistic maggot if he's found guilty. I hope he serves a NIIIIIIIIICE long term with Bubba the well hung homo rapist. [red]'Course he did that to one of MY cats and he'd not have to worry about a fucking trial. I might, but he wouldn't. Bastard.[/red] SG Ditto I agree 100% I would have liked to see him tried that with one of my cats, then again I might have had to knock the wife out of the way, she would try to shoot first over her animals. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:23:27 PM EDT
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I think some of you guys have been watching Animal Planet a bit too much.
It's a cat for God's sake. What I have learned on AR15.com It's OK to kill people and pit bulls but not cats. Person=human Cat=animal Not difficult. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:29:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: I think some of you guys have been watching Animal Planet a bit too much. It's a cat for God's sake. What I have learned on AR15.com It's OK to kill people and pit bulls but not cats. Person=human Cat=animal Not difficult. Stick around you will learn more, some people need to be killed out to better our Country, and Society. That kitten was a helpless, defenseless little animal, give me one reason why it deserved to have it's neck broken in the manner in which it was! |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:40:17 PM EDT
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OK, I'm convinced now! We should put duck hunters and chicken farmers in jail too. Duck farmers shoot defenseless ducks that don't shit in your house like a cat and chicken farmers wring their chickens neck which is inhumane!
The cat was property. This guy stole and destroyed private property and should pay, but doesn't deserve the death penalty. It is different if it's yours and you see it. If you kill him, you'll get manslaughter instead of 2nd degree murder. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:44:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: And if the guys girlfriend would have had an abortion and killed her baby, that would be OK. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:48:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted: I think some of you guys have been watching Animal Planet a bit too much. It's a cat for God's sake. What I have learned on AR15.com It's OK to kill people and pit bulls but not cats. Person=human Cat=animal Not difficult. If it had been my kitten, he is one subhuman that would never hurt another creature of any kind. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 6:57:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: Quoted: I think some of you guys have been watching Animal Planet a bit too much. It's a cat for God's sake. What I have learned on AR15.com It's OK to kill people and pit bulls but not cats. Person=human Cat=animal Not difficult. If it had been my kitten, he is one subhuman that would never hurt another creature of any kind. Excuse me but I'm new. From your next to last post I seem to get the impression you support killing unborn human children, abortion, and killing grown humans for killing a cat. Do you vote Democratic? I'm outta here, you guys scare me. Animal rights and proabortion makes me think I'm at the DU. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 7:05:27 PM EDT
[#22]
There certainly are some sick F@cks here. Excuse me? 3 years for a $20 cat?
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Posted: 5/17/2003 7:09:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think some of you guys have been watching Animal Planet a bit too much. It's a cat for God's sake. What I have learned on AR15.com It's OK to kill people and pit bulls but not cats. Person=human Cat=animal Not difficult. If it had been my kitten, he is one subhuman that would never hurt another creature of any kind. Excuse me but I'm new. From your next to last post I seem to get the impression you support killing unborn human children, abortion, and killing grown humans for killing a cat. Do you vote Democratic? I'm outta here, you guys scare me. Animal rights and proabortion makes me think I'm at the DU. No, I don't vote Democrat because their social issues and gun control is not enough to vote for them even though I am pro-choice. Yes, I would kill some asshole who was killing an animal just to be cruel. If the son of a bitch will do that, he would do the same to a person. Shove your DU comment straight up your fucking ass. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 7:51:33 PM EDT
[#24]
First off....20 bucks for a cat? And she lives in a trailer. Who the fuck spends 20 bucks on a goddamn cat. People stand in front of supermarkets and give these damn things away.
The guy can go to jail for three years? WTF...ITS A CAT NOT A HUMAN BABY. I'm not saying he didn't commit a cruel act but shit its a cat. The bitch is probably lying anyway. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:03:08 PM EDT
[#25]
I hardly see how killing a kitten means he would automatically do the same to a human. Maybe he knows the difference between a human and an animal unlike too many people. Thank you Walt Disney.
That was very cruel, but I think he owes her $20, a small fine and maybe a couple of nights in the slammer as far as the courts are concerned. Outside of that he needs his ass kicked so hard he has to pry his butthole open just to see daylight. The problem I see with this is the precedent it sets towards hunters. If this continues, we will see hunters on trial for cruelty to animals. The petahead dream. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:06:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Larry, my friend, your quote,"Yes, I would kill some asshole who was killing an animal just to be cruel. If the son of a bitch will do that, he would do the same to a person." is just the fuel the 'DU'ers need for their 'fire'. Are you one of 'those' people who should have their guns taken away? After all, you could go 'postal' on someone for killing a bug.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:40:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: BTW Where was and how old is sgtar15? [;D] Umm, I am going to be away for a little while. Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:52:14 PM EDT
[#28]
See the problem here is that a cat gives us love while an unborn baby actually hinders ones lifestyle. That's why a cat is worth more then a baby.
Yes what the guy did is cruel, but it is still a fucking cat. I have killed many cats myself. I have also killed squirrels, birds, geese,ducks, and many many chickens. Only the chickens did I eat. So what?? However, I have never had the urge to kill a human. Why? Because humans have souls and animals don't. God gave me power over animals. Do you guys eat all the bugs and such that you kill? Here is the real deal with abortion. By being Pro-murder you men are freely giving up your rights to be involved in your kids life. You are giving up your rights as a father by saying it is only the woman's choice since it is her body. And what you are also saying is that you are unwilling to take responsiblity for your own actions, ie getting her pregnant in the first place. Tell me; would you trust a woman, that you got pregnant, that aborts your kid but never tells you about it?? If so, would you still be surprised when she lies to you later?? Why? SGtar15 |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:52:41 PM EDT
[#29]
Umm, I'm sure you made a mistake when you wrote:
Yes, I would kill some asshole who was killing an animal just to be cruel. If it wasnt a mistake you should have your gun's taken from you and be institutionalized to keep you from taking a human's life due to the intentional life he/she took of the animal. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 9:02:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Cats taste good.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 9:12:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Larry, my friend, your quote,"Yes, I would kill some asshole who was killing an animal just to be cruel. If the son of a bitch will do that, he would do the same to a person." is just the fuel the 'DU'ers need for their 'fire'. It's a fairly well documented fact that most serial killers' disregard for life started with animals and then spread to people when the thrill wasn't enough. If this shitbag has no more compunction than to do that to a cat, an animal that was in no way harming him without a second thought, it's no stretch for the bottom feeding son of a bitch to do it to the girlfriend or a child if they piss him off. Are you one of 'those' people who should have their guns taken away? After all, you could go 'postal' on someone for killing a bug. What an asinine statement. Killing a girlfriend's cat because you're basically a rotten, worthless POS is not the same a spraying the house for roaches. Or killing a spider. It AIN'T the same as hunting and killing a damn duck or a deer. Most hunters try to get a quick, humane kill, and intend to use the game for food. And neither Larry nor me "should have their guns taken away" because we see this asshole for what he is. I'm shocked that anyone would actually [i]defend[/i] what this shitforbrains did. THAT'S what's Un-fucking-believable. And, yes, since anyone who decided to harm one of MY cats would be in MY home (Since they are inside all the time cats) they would be subject to the reasons I choose to keep and be proficient with firearms. In other words, It'd be their ass. Quoted: Do you vote Democratic? I'm outta here, you guys scare me. Animal rights and proabortion makes me think I'm at the DU. Quoted: Shove your DU comment straight up your fucking ass. Ditto. SG |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 9:46:24 PM EDT
[#32]
And, yes, since anyone who decided to harm one of MY cats would be in MY home (Since they are inside all the time cats) they would be subject to the reasons I choose to keep and be proficient with firearms. In other words, It'd be their ass. Unfortunitly you haven't been paying attention, LarryG stated that is he SAW (meaning that if he saw them anywhere) anybody purposely kill an animal he would "kill their ass". If someone comes into your home and tries to kill your beloved cat...shoot their sorry asses, [b]BUT[/b], when in court you had better damn well say you feared either for your life and/or the life of the others in that house or you'll be spending some quality time in prison for taking the life of someone (albeit in your house) over the loss of a cat. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 10:41:35 PM EDT
[#33]
If that fcker could control his temper he wouldn't be in this mess.
FCK HIM! And everyone know's that the handyman is always the killer. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 11:25:59 PM EDT
[#34]
I agree with LARRYG on this one...
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Posted: 5/18/2003 3:59:10 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: What an asinine statement. Killing a girlfriend's cat because you're basically a rotten, worthless POS is not the same a spraying the house for roaches. Or killing a spider. It AIN'T the same as hunting and killing a damn duck or a deer. Most hunters try to get a quick, humane kill, and intend to use the game for food. And neither Larry nor me "should have their guns taken away" because we see this asshole for what he is. I'm shocked that anyone would actually [i]defend[/i] what this shitforbrains did. THAT'S what's Un-fucking-believable. Um, do you have a problem with basic comprehension? I did not “Defend” that A-hole, and you, sir, have reinforced my belief that anyone who would condone the taking of a human life over that of a cat/kitten is just as much of a threat as that moron that was the topic of this thread. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 4:03:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: And if the guys girlfriend would have had an abortion and killed her baby, that would be OK. Isn't that the truth. And, given their circumstances I'd be they'd get it free (that is, paid for by others), too. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 4:10:51 AM EDT
[#37]
omg i never knew there were so many cat lovers here. if he did kill the dumb cat he shouldn't get that big of a sentance etc, this is stupid.
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Posted: 5/18/2003 4:17:14 AM EDT
[#38]
Wow, what a heated thread. Must have been a hot night.
Now that everyone is cooled down a bit, I have a question. This is not a flame just want to know. [b]Do some of you actually advocate the death penalty for killing a cat/animal?[/b] Some of you guys that have grown up in the city need to realize that those of us that grew up on a farm look at things a bit different. Animals are animals not human and regardless of Disney Productions do not have a soul. I've had to kill many animals in my youth that I did not eat, cats, dogs, and wild animals. One of the hardest was when I was very young and found a dead opossum. It had young in it's pouch. I took them home for I wanted to save them but was told there was no way. I threw them one at a time against the barn to save them the misery of a slow death. After posting all over the county to keep your pets home, I shot wild dogs that were killing our livestock. Likewise, I have killed wild cats for the same reason. I've snapped the neck of many a chicken destined for the dinner table. It has been custom for centuries and is considered humane. Hanging is the same process and that was used on humans for centuries and still could be in some states. I consider myself a Christian and a moral person and feel no regret for what I have had to do in this regard. In hard times, I have helped many people in my life and taken many a stray animal in. I would beat the holy crap out of someone who would harm my pets but would not kill them for that is a sin against God and don't want to spend 8 years of my life in prison for a cat or dog. California leads the country in gun control laws. The state has passed these laws gradually until it now stares our AR15.com brothers in the face. One of you guys posted, that eventually this pet law protection trend will extend to hunters. Looking at the states history on gun control, I would have to agree that this is a real possiblity sometime in the future. As in my original post, this guy is a scumbag for what he did and deserves punishment. I do have an issue with spending over $100,000 of our tax money over a cat. Tj |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 4:19:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Yeah! Let's have a trial with court appointed attorneys and everything!
This has nothing to do with cat killing or abortions, it has everything to do with how moronic the state of california is. "Who gives a shit if we're $108 trillion dollars in debt and our lights keep turning off. This guy killed a cat! We must have a two week trial!" I'm still praying for a huge earthquake daily.[%|] |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 4:35:30 AM EDT
[#40]
big cats can be very dangerous......... but a little pussy never hurt no one
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Posted: 5/18/2003 5:47:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: Shouldnt be killing kittens at all. Ownership has nothing to do with it. Bail IS a little high though! Bail is just right. Most people that abuse animals will do as bad or worse to people. [img]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/tiere/animal-smiley-027.gif[/img] I like cats! |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 6:22:58 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: ....I bet a 53 YO handyman in a trialer park has spent lots of prior time in the graybar hotel. My thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 6:31:57 AM EDT
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Quote,"Bail is just right. Most people that abuse animals will do as bad or worse to people."
We condem the Anti's for wanting to punish us for 'crimes' we MIGHT do with our 'evil' black rifles, yet here you are doing that very same thing. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 6:34:09 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: Quote,"Bail is just right. Most people that abuse animals will do as bad or worse to people." We condem the Anti's for wanting to punish us for 'crimes' we MIGHT do with our 'evil' black rifles, yet here you are doing that very same thing. That is some real convoluted logic.[whacko] |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 6:36:15 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Quoted: Shouldnt be killing kittens at all. Ownership has nothing to do with it. Bail IS a little high though! Bail is just right. Most people that abuse animals will do as bad or worse to people. [url]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/tiere/animal-smiley-027.gif[/url] I like cats! Predicting what people will do and won't do is a difficult thing even if you have walked in their shoes. I too like cats. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 6:44:40 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: Quoted: Quote,"Bail is just right. Most people that abuse animals will do as bad or worse to people." We condem the Anti's for wanting to punish us for 'crimes' we MIGHT do with our 'evil' black rifles, yet here you are doing that very same thing. That is some real convoluted logic.[whacko] Maybe not, could be he just hasn't learned to hit the quote button yet. [:D] |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 7:25:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: It's a fairly well documented fact that most serial killers' disregard for life started with animals and then spread to people when the thrill wasn't enough. Ditto. SG My thoughts exactly--I imagine the odds are slightly in favor of this POS having some bodies buried under the crawl space of his trailer. I wonder what his lampshades are made of.... |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 8:10:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: The guy can go to jail for three years? WTF...ITS A CAT NOT A HUMAN BABY. I wondered about that too. Seemed a bit stiff to me at first glance. After about 3 seconds of concentration, I think I may have a couple of possible reasons why this is.. 1) Because there were so many sick fucks killing animals just for the joy of it, and passing that on to their offspring, the law became needed to protect the animals from cruelty. 2)Now that serial killers have been around long enough to study. We have found that they , (many of them), had a penchant for animal torture, and killing when they were young. This history is present in other violent criminal behavior, later exhibited as adults, towards HUMANS. And..... I wonder what the response would be here, if this were a 3-4 month old puppy?? Hmmmmmmm?? BTW, he would face the same charges if it were a puppy. That'd be ok??[:D] AND Man was given "Dominion" over the earth, and it's inhabitants. That means, we are "Caretakers", NOT abusers, or wanton killers of ANY life.....[;D] |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 8:30:39 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: The problem I see with this is the precedent it sets towards hunters. If this continues, we will see hunters on trial for cruelty to animals. The petahead dream. This has already begun, long ago. It's what is behind the Endangered Species Act, the banning of hunting dogs, and the reintroduction of wolves. Restore the natural ecology, nature keeps it's balance, and ban hunting! Of course this requires land set-asides by the FED, so that means more "Wilderness" areas, and "National Monuments". It's been going on for generations...... Wait until you see CARA in action. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 8:33:42 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: Quoted: The guy can go to jail for three years? WTF...ITS A CAT NOT A HUMAN BABY. I wondered about that too. Seemed a bit stiff to me at first glance. After about 3 seconds of concentration, I think I may have a couple of possible reasons why this is.. 1) Because there were so many sick fucks killing animals just for the joy of it, and passing that on to their offspring, the law became needed to protect the animals from cruelty. 2)Now that serial killers have been around long enough to study. We have found that they , (many of them), had a penchant for animal torture, and killing when they were young. This history is present in other violent criminal behavior, later exhibited as adults, towards HUMANS. And..... I wonder what the response would be here, if this were a 3-4 month old puppy?? Hmmmmmmm?? BTW, he would face the same charges if it were a puppy. That'd be ok??[:D] AND Man was given "Dominion" over the earth, and it's inhabitants. That means, we are "Caretakers", NOT abusers, or wanton killers of ANY life.....[;D] |
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