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Posted: 5/12/2003 5:34:45 PM EDT
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go to Linux, I just got Redhat up and running on my laptop, as soon as I can compile a driver for my wireless device, I will be free! I can use it now but I am not wireless yet.
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Posted: 5/12/2003 5:43:26 PM EDT
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Listen to Dave!!!!!
Linux is equal to Windows (After you add $1000 in aftermarket software to Windows) |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 5:45:04 PM EDT
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Yeah, right... Linux.
Thats what I want to do, complile drivers for my crap. Whatever. What version of Windows were you running? Windows 2000 or XP are GREAT operating systems, lots of support, and very stable. When I see those get real messed up, it's always operator error.... just like you can do to linux. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 5:52:47 PM EDT
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If reliable computing is what you're after, get yourself a good used Sun Microsystems workstation (I have an Ultra 2) and learn how to run it. It's different than MicroSlop's Windows, and the command lines are UNIX, and will be unfamiliar at first, but the learning curve is fairly rapid and the Solaris desktop is pretty much like any other GUI, only in some respects it's simpler.
Configuring new devices on a Sun is dead simple. Usually you have to type in one line of commands and that's it. It beats the ass off of Window's Plug and Pray. As for reliability...it's built on 33 years (and counting) of non-stop linear development of Berkeley System V Unix. It's bulletproof. You can do almost everything on a Sun that you can on a PC, but you can't do almost everything on a PC that's available for a Sun. I'm not using my Sun on the 'net just yet. I have to get a network hub first as it'll be sharing a LAN with my PC's and cable modem. CJ |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 5:52:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yeah, right... Linux. Thats what I want to do, complile drivers for my crap. Whatever. What version of Windows were you running? Windows 2000 or XP are GREAT operating systems, lots of support, and very stable. When I see those get real messed up, it's always operator error.... just like you can do to linux. Dittos on Window 2000/XP. I have been running Windows 2000 for almost 2 years without a problem. When I had Windows 95/98 I was reloading windows every 6 months. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:05:08 PM EDT
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I run XP pro and the only time I had to reformat and start over was when I took Linux off my second drive. Seems Grub takes over the MBR and Windows couldn't repair it :(
I loved Linux until I couldn't get any USB peripherals to work with it or get a sound card to work with it. Windows may not be the best, but at least it supports most things out there without having to search forever to maybe find a fix. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:08:59 PM EDT
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99% of the Windows FUBARs, it's operator error. Most people can't even program a VCR, and you expect them to use Linux? Writing your own drivers, compiling kernels? The greatest advantage Linux has is that most of the "handy and useful" software (that is: crap like weatherbug, precision-time and the lot), is written for Windows only.
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:28:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: 99% of the Windows FUBARs, it's operator error. Most people can't even program a VCR, and you expect them to use Linux? Writing your own drivers, compiling kernels? The greatest advantage Linux has is that most of the "handy and useful" software (that is: crap like weatherbug, precision-time and the lot), is written for Windows only. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:30:02 PM EDT
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i'm a computer technican; there is never a need to format your hard drive. unless your drive is stone cold dead it can be fixed without starting over... if you know how...
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:40:45 PM EDT
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Im putting Red Hat on my system when I get another hard drive. Right now Im running 2KPro and couldnt be happier
I like Linux cus I like to tinker, and its definately a tinkerers OS |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:53:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: I like Linux cus I like to tinker, and its definately a tinkerers OS LOL, so is Windows. ;) |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 6:55:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: i'm a computer technican; there is never a need to format your hard drive. unless your drive is stone cold dead it can be fixed without starting over... if you know how... [lolabove] It's about speed and efficiency.... you can fix a car that is totalled, but in the long run, it costs you more than it's worth. There are DEFINITELY times to wipe and start over, and any good technician knows that. In the end, it's always a balance of how long it takes to fix the problem -vs- how good the end results are. Time, is money. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:02:05 PM EDT
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Why didn't you just go into safe mode and fix it?
Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:03:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: You can do almost everything on a Sun that you can on a PC, but you can't do almost everything on a PC that's available for a Sun. CJ Humm... Some of the thing I HAVE to do with a PC- 1. Open customer MS Word, Excel, Access, Visio, MS Project, and Adobe Acrobat files. 2. Open customer Autocad and/or IGES files. 3. Run ERP Client/Server Application. 4. IPSEC VPN with smartcard Authentication. 5. Win2000 Server Admin Tools. And a few more but your get the idea. Can I do it??? |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:04:38 PM EDT
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The ONLY Windows OSes I have ever had a single problem with is ME and win98 (first edition)
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:35:09 PM EDT
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Rather than buying a $12000 Sun Solaris workstation with a couple of terabytes of RAID level 5 drives why not just invest in a backup device for Windows?
You let Microshit get the best of you. My Windowz 2000 machine has tried that shit on me twice but I've booted from a DOS floppy and kicked its ass. If you run NTFS you'll find that the file system stays a bunch more stable too. I run a FAT32 disk for my Win98 side and three NTFS drives for XP and Win2000. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:39:26 PM EDT
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Win2K is a good OS... a definite improvement over previous versions. My only beef is the licensing. It does not have to cost as much as it does and can seriously financially hurt a business because of the costs. And if that business is running unregistered software, and gets caught, good bye business. I'm not saying it should be free, but geez, give us a break.
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:47:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Win2K is a good OS... a definite improvement over previous versions. My only beef is the licensing. It does not have to cost as much as it does and can seriously financially hurt a business because of the costs. And if that business is running unregistered software, and gets caught, good bye business. I'm not saying it should be free, but geez, give us a break. Most businesses upgrade to newer OS's simply when they buy new machines. And avg business desktop runs right around $1000 today. The OS is about $100 of that cost. That's basically only 10% of the cost of a new PC, for the part that makes the whole thing work.... and they continually work to find bugs and provide free updates. No, I dont think windows is too expensive. Hell, you can find new Dell's with XP and dumbed down versions of office for under $700. Now, if you are going to Best Buy and picking up 5 copies of XP pro in retail boxes.... then you just arent spending wisely. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 7:59:57 PM EDT
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You don't have to blow many grand on a new Sun workstation when an Ultra 60 or Ultra 80 can be had for a few hundred bucks on the used market. My U2 cost me NOTHING...I say again..FREE. And yet it's powerful enough to run anything short of some majorly graphics-intensive applications...but even then...there is a port of Quake II that is reported to run quite well on such a machine. I just haven't gotten to the point where I'm ready to install it yet. It's not quite as user friendly as Winblows, but it IS a hell of a lot more reliable.
There's a Solaris platform application for almost every Windows application, if you look around for it. CJ |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 8:04:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Rather than buying a $12000 Sun Solaris workstation with a couple of terabytes of RAID level 5 drives why not just invest in a backup device for Windows? You let Microshit get the best of you. My Windowz 2000 machine has tried that shit on me twice but I've booted from a DOS floppy and kicked its ass. If you run NTFS you'll find that the file system stays a bunch more stable too. I run a FAT32 disk for my Win98 side and three NTFS drives for XP and Win2000. Dude there is no way in hell you're going to get a couple of terabytes of storage for 12k. That would be 2 T3 partner pairs which sell for about $60k EACH! ($240,000!) A simple sunblade 1500 with 1 gig of ram and 2 36 gig hdd runs about $12k. |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 8:07:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, right... Linux. Thats what I want to do, complile drivers for my crap. Whatever. What version of Windows were you running? Windows 2000 or XP are GREAT operating systems, lots of support, and very stable. When I see those get real messed up, it's always operator error.... just like you can do to linux. Dittos on Window 2000/XP. I have been running Windows 2000 for almost 2 years without a problem. When I had Windows 95/98 I was reloading windows every 6 months. i had to reload it every 6 months because i change hardware so often i drove the damn thing insane. XP/2000 didnt need a reload very often. 2K needed it on a mobo changeout. since it marries itself to the mobo so hard i call that acceptable (until i found the magic program SYSPREP! used the PNP switch and viola, no more reloading for mobo change) gettin the OEM syspreps has its uses. |
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