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Posted: 4/24/2016 9:56:06 AM EDT
Baylor tight end LaQuan McGowan would be one of the largest players in NFL history if he is drafted this April. At 6'7" and 405 pounds, nobody on defense will want to get in his way. Despite his size, he is no slouch. McGowan caught three touchdown passes at Baylor and can run a 5.41-second 40-yard-dash. He can also bench more than most of the offensive linemen invited to the combine. Check out the Baylor Bear's skills and look for him in the draft. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634868-biggest-tight-end-ever-67-405lb-laquan-mcgowan-enters-nfl-draft?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial |
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Not sure who would be interested in him as a te. He's too big , unless he will be used in blocking situations only
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Knees and ankles will be gone in less then 2 years in the NFL.
I wish him luck but he will have to lose at least 75 lbs of fat to make it. |
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Kinda slow for a tight end I think...
He is a very niche tight end...blocking situations... The occasional dump pass... If he gets drafted..he may be converted into a tackle or guard... |
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He'd last about 2 receptions in the NFL. That's a big slow moving target for somebody. If he can survive the Rocky The Flying Squirrel hits, the "smart" guys who tackle him low will help him finish wrecking his knees.
I doubt he'll actually play tight end. If he even ends up on a roster. |
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how's his run/pass blocking skills?
he'll get his chance as an O lineman, maybe the occasional use as a novelty pass catcher in video the football looks like a Nerf football in his hands |
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Someone will draft him, if for no other reason the publicity.
I'm sure you could build a few plays around him. |
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Someone will draft him, if for no other reason the publicity. I'm sure you could build a few plays around him. View Quote I haven't seen him on anyone's TE draft board. He may luck out and sign as a free agent, but I doubt he'll be drafted. His 40 time is just too slow as a TE or O-Lineman. CBSsports.com doesn't even show him as the best TE out of Baylor. |
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I could see someone signing him as an undrafted FA and converting him to a 3-4 nose tackle just as a project. With that kind of size and his hour-glass 40 time, I'm actually surprised that wasn't done while he was in college. A 400 pound body makes for a decent NT even without any real ability. If he's even a little athletic, he could be a monster on the right defensive front.
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I watched the 30 for 30 episode on the '85 Chicago Bears and immediately thought of LaQuan when they told the story of The Fridge.
I kind of doubt he can make it as a dedicated tight end, but I'm rooting for him to find a niche somewhere. |
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? View Quote That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. |
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I watched the 30 for 30 episode on the '85 Chicago Bears and immediately thought of LaQuan when they told the story of The Fridge. I kind of doubt he can make it as a dedicated tight end, but I'm rooting for him to find a niche somewhere. View Quote The Fridge caught the 'beetus and is on death's door? http://www.bigcamo.com/index.php I saw him here and kinda figured he was doing well. |
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That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. Considering this thread is about a tight end eligible to be selected in this year's draft, that's what I'm referring to. 5.41 would be tied as the slowest 40 time off any TE on a draft board, and .4 seconds slower than the next slowest TE prospect. But I guess that's all and stuff to you. I don't even see him working out as a NG/NT, because he's too tall. If you disagree, we can place a bet if McGowan is on an NFL roster (not practice squad) on Week 1. And Aaron Gibson (410 lbs as a player, slimmed down to 386 for the combine), had a faster 40 time. |
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Knees and ankles will be gone in less then 2 years in the NFL. I wish him luck but he will have to lose at least 75 lbs of fat to make it. View Quote This. The only way he's ever been effective is if the guy covering him is substantially smaller or because he's so big that cant get around him to deflect the ball in time. Regardless, all that weight will catch up with him sooner than later. |
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Quoted: I watched the 30 for 30 episode on the '85 Chicago Bears and immediately thought of LaQuan when they told the story of The Fridge. I kind of doubt he can make it as a dedicated tight end, but I'm rooting for him to find a niche somewhere. View Quote The Fridge was "only" 6'2", 335. Any number of High School players are bigger now. Amazing. |
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Considering this thread is about a tight end eligible to be selected in this year's draft, that's what I'm referring to. 5.41 would be tied as the slowest 40 time off any TE on a draft board, and .4 seconds slower than the next slowest TE prospect. But I guess that's all and stuff to you. I don't even see him working out as a NG/NT, because he's too tall. If you disagree, we can place a bet if McGowan is on an NFL roster (not practice squad) on Week 1. And Aaron Gibson (410 lbs as a player, slimmed down to 386 for the combine), had a faster 40 time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. Considering this thread is about a tight end eligible to be selected in this year's draft, that's what I'm referring to. 5.41 would be tied as the slowest 40 time off any TE on a draft board, and .4 seconds slower than the next slowest TE prospect. But I guess that's all and stuff to you. I don't even see him working out as a NG/NT, because he's too tall. If you disagree, we can place a bet if McGowan is on an NFL roster (not practice squad) on Week 1. And Aaron Gibson (410 lbs as a player, slimmed down to 386 for the combine), had a faster 40 time. No bet on making the roster, that depends on far more than athletic ability (which is truly impressive with this individual just based on his size and 40 alone, but is all I know about him). How would the coaches envision using him? How well would the experience, mental tools, and physical tools that he brings with him translate to that role? Is he coachable? And are the coaches for a team that signs him capable of doing so? Can he stay healthy, and can the players the players in front of him/behind him in contention for roster spots stay healthy? |
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No bet on making the roster, that depends on far more than athletic ability (which is truly impressive with this individual just based on his size and 40 alone, but is all I know about him). How would the coaches envision using him? How well would the experience, mental tools, and physical tools that he brings with him translate to that role? Is he coachable? And are the coaches for a team that signs him capable of doing so? Can he stay healthy, and can the players the players in front of him/behind him in contention for roster spots stay healthy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. Considering this thread is about a tight end eligible to be selected in this year's draft, that's what I'm referring to. 5.41 would be tied as the slowest 40 time off any TE on a draft board, and .4 seconds slower than the next slowest TE prospect. But I guess that's all and stuff to you. I don't even see him working out as a NG/NT, because he's too tall. If you disagree, we can place a bet if McGowan is on an NFL roster (not practice squad) on Week 1. And Aaron Gibson (410 lbs as a player, slimmed down to 386 for the combine), had a faster 40 time. No bet on making the roster, that depends on far more than athletic ability (which is truly impressive with this individual just based on his size and 40 alone, but is all I know about him). How would the coaches envision using him? How well would the experience, mental tools, and physical tools that he brings with him translate to that role? Is he coachable? And are the coaches for a team that signs him capable of doing so? Can he stay healthy, and can the players the players in front of him/behind him in contention for roster spots stay healthy? All very good questions. I'd like to know these answers as well but I didn't find anything else with tangible info on him aside from his height/weight and 40 time. How's his lateral movement? How was he used in Baylor's offense? |
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Putting a guy like that at TE is a waste and a gimmick. He should be playing nose tackle, using his mass to stop up running lanes, his relative speed getting around o-linemen, and using that height to knock down balls.
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Quoted: All very good questions. I'd like to know these answers as well but I didn't find anything else with tangible info on him aside from his height/weight and 40 time. How's his lateral movement? How was he used in Baylor's offense? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? That really depends on the curve you are measuring against. For NFL players as a whole, that would be .6-.8seconds slower than the average. For NFL tight ends, that is about .7 slower than average. For NFL players at 400+ pounds, that is as fast as any have ever been. For the population of the United States, that is blindingly fast. Considering this thread is about a tight end eligible to be selected in this year's draft, that's what I'm referring to. 5.41 would be tied as the slowest 40 time off any TE on a draft board, and .4 seconds slower than the next slowest TE prospect. But I guess that's all and stuff to you. I don't even see him working out as a NG/NT, because he's too tall. If you disagree, we can place a bet if McGowan is on an NFL roster (not practice squad) on Week 1. And Aaron Gibson (410 lbs as a player, slimmed down to 386 for the combine), had a faster 40 time. No bet on making the roster, that depends on far more than athletic ability (which is truly impressive with this individual just based on his size and 40 alone, but is all I know about him). How would the coaches envision using him? How well would the experience, mental tools, and physical tools that he brings with him translate to that role? Is he coachable? And are the coaches for a team that signs him capable of doing so? Can he stay healthy, and can the players the players in front of him/behind him in contention for roster spots stay healthy? All very good questions. I'd like to know these answers as well but I didn't find anything else with tangible info on him aside from his height/weight and 40 time. How's his lateral movement? How was he used in Baylor's offense? TE, blocking fullback, offensive lineman. Not having any sort of trained eye for this sort of thing, I thought he would initially just plow the path without any real technique early on. On occasion a defender would just cut around him and try to get a hand on the RB, with more or less success. As he progressed it seemed to me he did get much better at sticking his block. |
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WHen we played him this year, he worked once, after that he was easy to stop
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I don't know much about this guy, just what the OP linked. With that said, I could see a team that was a "run first" style offense(not that there are a lot in today's game) using a guy like this. I mean, teams will often sub in a backup OL to play TE when it's an obvious running situation and they need as much push as possible. If this guy were to be drafted then they have that advantage in their run game, and it looked like this guy had decent hands so you have to watch out for the surprise dump pass to him as well.
I don't see him fitting most of the teams offenses but I will say I'm impressed with his athleticism at that size. |
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I'm amazed he can even run without several braced joints. He's 1 inch taller than me and twice my weight, and maybe a year or two older, and I'm just scraping by without major joint and back problems as is
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? Put him on a diet and see how much faster he gets at 350. |
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I guess there is no medial to become an NFL pick, as there is no way that is healthy.
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5.41 40? That's very slow. What's his standing vertical jump? Put him on a diet and see how much faster he gets at 350. This. Sign him as a free agent, get the weight off of him and then let him be an athlete. He'll never be a tight end in the NFL at 405. |
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Too slow for NFL tight end, possibly a job change to a tackle he might be good.
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Too slow for NFL tight end, possibly a job change to a tackle he might be good. View Quote This. His former skills as an NCAA tight end could still be beneficial to him, especially if he ended up with a coach like Beliceck who is creative in the use of his players, but I have a hard time believing he could be successful as a full time tight end. |
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Knees and ankles will be gone in less then 2 years in the NFL. I wish him luck but he will have to lose at least 75 lbs of fat to make it. View Quote It'll be a glorious two years. He'll do fine blocking. But imagine this guy taking a shovel, finding a hole and then trucking the shit out of some poor secondary once he starts going downhill. But yeah. Big guys making yardage generally don't have long illustrious careers. Play your 4 years, bank your cash and get a job at ESPN. |
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Way too slow to be an NFL tight end. He'd basically be an extra blocking tackle.
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Here is a guy, also from Baylor, that I think will have a better chance as a successful NFL tight end. He is a former collegiate basketball player, and as guys such as Antonio Gates have shown, being an athletic Basketball forward with good post up skills can definitely translate to being a good tight end in the NFL. He will be a project for sure, but I think he has good upside.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/story/_/id/15282267/2016-nfl-draft-baylor-basketball-rico-gathers-serious-becoming-nfl-tight-end |
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St. Louis had a 400-pound player for a bit. Not sure what's up with him now though.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9308076/st-louis-rams-move-403-pounder-offense |
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I've seen some tape and he has pretty good hands. If he was about 300lbs, he would be a beast at TE. But until then, he needs to be on the D-Line.
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Fast for his size but much too slow to play TE in the NFL by the looks of those videos.
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