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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:57:04 PM EDT
She got to looking thru my J&G sales catalog and apparently fell in love with the muddy girl 22/45 lite. I only realized this after she brought a handful of pennies to me and asked me

"Dad is this enough to buy this pink pistol?"

I had to tell her no, and so she told me she was going to save up.

What she doesn't know is I have $520 in store credit at my favorite gun shop; and they have the exact pistol for something like $350 (I honestly don't remember.)

I've been itching to buy a .22lr pistol and I love Ruger and now my daughter want's a muddy girl 22/45.

I'm fairly certain I know what I have to do Tuesday after work...



Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:58:58 PM EDT
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You know the answer daddy!
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:00:49 PM EDT
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Like a fat kid on a twinkie OP. Chance to make your girl so happy, a fun bonding experience, and that is a great gun!
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:00:52 PM EDT
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You must fo.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:01:33 PM EDT
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Mine's not much younger and I'm dying to buy her a muddy girl anything that shoots.
I don't think I could stop myself if she gave me a reason.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:02:39 PM EDT
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You know what to do.

I already have a small arsenal to gift to my daughter as she ages appropriately for each firearm.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:11:02 PM EDT
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Yea, it's gonna happen. I can't wait to come home with it.

She already has a pink savage cub and a pink .22lr AR I built for her.  She has never shot the AR but she enjoys pulling the trigger on the cub.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:12:20 PM EDT
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Fo time.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:12:50 PM EDT
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Do it. Mine has a Muddy Girl MP15/22.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:12:54 PM EDT
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Help her "save", do chores, help mommy, ect so she really feels it's hers. Teachable moment. And she'll always love it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:14:23 PM EDT
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My first boy had a Henry .22 while he was still in my nut sack.
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Help her "save", do chores, help mommy, ect so she really feels it's hers. Teachable moment. And she'll always love it.
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This a great idea, print out a picture of the gun so she can remember why she's 'earning' it.
 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:20:39 PM EDT
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Oh, she'll still be "saving" for it.  Only her "savings" will go into her savings account. She already has little chores and helps with everything we ask her to, so she is definitely earning it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:22:52 PM EDT
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Why is it so hard for people to post pictures of the guns they mention?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:26:28 PM EDT
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Honest question, I don't have kids, but if she's young enough to think a handful of pennies will buy a gun is she old enough to handle a semi auto pistol?
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get a pink can for it too, don't want to harm those tiny ears
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:32:06 PM EDT
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Well, while I don't think some older kids even have a solid grasp of money, I tend to agree.  4 years old?  

Have to admit, it's not my place to really comment and if I had my own kid, I might think much differently.

Regarding the gun, I actually just won a 22/45 lite in an auction.  And I shot one last week.  Really liked it.  It's a great little gun to train people on and really controllable.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:32:34 PM EDT
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On her own?  No.
With my help? absolutely.

She Already shoots her bolt action while I support it.  And you just load 1 round in the magazine at a time until she gets older.

FWIW she knows her safety rules and is very good at following them.  But,  I've been teaching her about guns since she was 8 months old.  
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:36:44 PM EDT
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Not a fan of the muddy girl pattern. Why not buy her a basic 22/45 Lite and have someone do a better job with some cerakote?
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On her own?  No.
With my help? absolutely.

She Already shoots her bolt action while I support it.  And you just load 1 round in the magazine at a time until she gets older.

FWIW she knows her safety rules and is very good at following them.  But,  I've been teaching her about guns since she was 8 months old.  
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On her own?  No.
With my help? absolutely.

She Already shoots her bolt action while I support it.  And you just load 1 round in the magazine at a time until she gets older.

FWIW she knows her safety rules and is very good at following them.  But,  I've been teaching her about guns since she was 8 months old.  



Yea I guess load one at a time.

I've never taught a young child to shoot but I'd think if they can't support it on their own it's not time for that particular gun.

Are there any super light weight single shot youth .22 pistols made?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:41:12 PM EDT
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Well, while I don't think some older kids even have a solid grasp of money, I tend to agree.  4 years old?  

Have to admit, it's not my place to really comment and if I had my old kid, I might think much differently.
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Well, while I don't think some older kids even have a solid grasp of money, I tend to agree.  4 years old?  

Have to admit, it's not my place to really comment and if I had my old kid, I might think much differently.


It's more about the fact that she brought up saving for something all on her own.  No, she doesn't obviously understand money but she apparently understand if you want something you save.

And she knows what money is just not the actual value.

This is prime time to teach her about it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:42:25 PM EDT
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Fo.

I got my girls the m&p 15-22's and the 22/45's are on order.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:43:33 PM EDT
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A what now?

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:43:37 PM EDT
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Mine has a savage rascal and a suppressor
Turns 4 in july
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:44:09 PM EDT
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Thank you
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:44:53 PM EDT
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It's more about the fact that she brought up saving for something all on her own.  No, she doesn't obviously understand money but she apparently understand if you want something you save.

And she knows what money is just not the actual value.

This is prime time to teach her about it.
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Honest question, I don't have kids, but if she's young enough to think a handful of pennies will buy a gun is she old enough to handle a semi auto pistol?


Well, while I don't think some older kids even have a solid grasp of money, I tend to agree.  4 years old?  

Have to admit, it's not my place to really comment and if I had my old kid, I might think much differently.


It's more about the fact that she brought up saving for something all on her own.  No, she doesn't obviously understand money but she apparently understand if you want something you save.

And she knows what money is just not the actual value.

This is prime time to teach her about it.


Ok

Well I really like my 22/45 and the lites are significantly lighter.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:48:45 PM EDT
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This is a perfect opportunity to illustrate how in human nature, people truly only value things properly when they work to earn them.


Dad knows exactly how to handle it, I'm sure  


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Yea I guess load one at a time.

I've never taught a young child to shoot but I'd think if they can't support it on their own it's not time for that particular gun.

Are there any super light weight single shot youth .22 pistols made?
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On her own?  No.
With my help? absolutely.

She Already shoots her bolt action while I support it.  And you just load 1 round in the magazine at a time until she gets older.

FWIW she knows her safety rules and is very good at following them.  But,  I've been teaching her about guns since she was 8 months old.  



Yea I guess load one at a time.

I've never taught a young child to shoot but I'd think if they can't support it on their own it's not time for that particular gun.

Are there any super light weight single shot youth .22 pistols made?


Well for one, she will out grow any small firearms so beyond the cub I'm thinking longer term.  It also is less about her shooting guns herself right now and more about  just being around them and learning. So when she is old enough to actually shoot on her own she has a solid foundation.

I also never force her to shoot. She shoots when she is ready.

It's also a perfect reason to buy a .22lr pistol like I have wanted to.
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With this approach then the suppressor could be an exact match.  





 
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This!

But maybe hold it back for her birthday or (gasp...all the way to) Christmas so she learns to work and save. She still won't have enough saved up but that's not the point of lesson here.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:35:38 PM EDT
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If you were closer,  I'd mount a Spectre II on her 22/45 when you weren't looking and let her shoot it.

Guess what she'd be asking for next.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:38:27 PM EDT
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She got to looking thru my J&G sales catalog and apparently fell in love with the muddy girl 22/45 lite. I only realized this after she brought a handful of pennies to me and asked me

"Dad is this enough to buy this pink pistol?"

I had to tell her no, and so she told me she was going to save up.

What she doesn't know is I have $520 in store credit at my favorite gun shop; and they have the exact pistol for something like $350 (I honestly don't remember.)

I've been itching to buy a .22lr pistol and I love Ruger and now my daughter want's a muddy girl 22/45.

I'm fairly certain I know what I have to do Tuesday after work...



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I'm no help here, my 11 year old daughter has one.
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This!

But maybe hold it back for her birthday or (gasp...all the way to) Christmas so she learns to work and save. She still won't have enough saved up but that's not the point of lesson here.
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This!

But maybe hold it back for her birthday or (gasp...all the way to) Christmas so she learns to work and save. She still won't have enough saved up but that's not the point of lesson here.

At that age attention span is about a week at best.  For a kid that young pretending to let them save for a couple days is enough.  Your talking about a 4 year old, not an 8 year old.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:46:20 PM EDT
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we started mine out with a Henry lever .22lr


they even make a carbine model with a shorter stock

























As for the new 22/45 Lites, I just bought one for my daughter, ironically enough.



It is so bastardized from the early Ruger Mark IIs.



The trigger feels like it is built from rocks and sticks.



It is so rough.










To get the safety devices out and fix the trigger, I had to do the following:










polish the hammer and trigger bar and trigger spring plunger.(with a dremel!)

Remove the mag disconnect, and replace it with a hammer bushing ($15)



Replace the sear ($25)



Remove the original slide lock and replace with one that works like a 1911 ($32) (this isn't to make trigger better, it just makes operation not suck so bad)



remove the loaded chamber indicator, so it will feed properly ($15)



replace the ejector with a machined piece, to replace the stamped version ($15)










If you buy one, and want to do any of these things and want advice, feel free to IM me.












 
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we started mine out with a Henry lever .22lrthey even make a carbine model with a shorter stock
http://thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Henry.jpg






As for the new 22/45 Lites, I just bought one for my daughter, ironically enough.
It is so bastardized from the early Ruger Mark IIs.
The trigger feels like it is built from rocks and sticks.
It is so rough.


To get the safety devices out and fix the trigger, I had to do the following:


Remove the mag disconnect, and replace it with a hammer bushing ($15)
Replace the sear ($25)
Remove the original slide lock and replace with one that works like a 1911 ($32) (this isn't to make trigger better, it just makes operation not suck so bad)
remove the loaded chamber indicator, so it will feed properly ($15)
replace the ejector with a machined piece, to replace the stamped version ($15)


If you buy one, and want to do any of these things and want advice, feel free to IM me.


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Or just get the volquartsen kit. It's amazing.
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I used most of their parts
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:52:38 PM EDT
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Fugly

Black fluted Lite is best Lite.

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Black fluted Lite is best Lite.



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Fugly



Black fluted Lite is best Lite.



http://i.imgur.com/XxGNxL1.jpg
now which do you suppose a young girl would find more attractive?

 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:54:50 PM EDT
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That's awesome!
Anytime any kid asks to do something outdoors or firearms related, mancode dictates we must drop everything and get that kid involved.
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She got to looking thru my J&G sales catalog and apparently fell in love with the muddy girl 22/45 lite. I only realized this after she brought a handful of pennies to me and asked me

"Dad is this enough to buy this pink pistol?"

I had to tell her no, and so she told me she was going to save up.

What she doesn't know is I have $520 in store credit at my favorite gun shop; and they have the exact pistol for something like $350 (I honestly don't remember.)

I've been itching to buy a .22lr pistol and I love Ruger and now my daughter want's a muddy girl 22/45.

I'm fairly certain I know what I have to do Tuesday after work...




That's awesome!
Anytime any kid asks to do something outdoors or firearms related, mancode dictates we must drop everything and get that kid involved.

Roger that!
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 11:57:52 PM EDT
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It starts with a 22/45 then becomes an sbr with a 3 lug and a can



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Black fluted Lite is best Lite.



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Fugly



Black fluted Lite is best Lite.



http://i.imgur.com/XxGNxL1.jpg
And you're not a four year old girl.

 



At least, we hope you're not.
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Fixed it for you.


Don't want them to sell it before you get there.  I bet their phone works.
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Black fluted Lite is best Lite.

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Fugly

Black fluted Lite is best Lite.

http://i.imgur.com/XxGNxL1.jpg


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Fixed it for you.


Don't want them to sell it before you get there.  I bet their phone works.
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Fixed it for you.


Don't want them to sell it before you get there.  I bet their phone works.


They are closed Sunday and Monday so no worries there!
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That. Is. Awesome!
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That. Is. Awesome!


She turns 5 soon and then maybe she will be old enough for the m16.

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Get her a can for it.
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