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Posted: 4/23/2016 12:51:01 PM EDT
38-40 Winchester ............ even have some ammo for it:

















Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:55:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:58:16 PM EDT
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Looks like crap. Finish is pretty much all gone, and there is a piece on the bottom that doesn't even match the rest of the receiver. Junk parts gun.









J/k, looks awesome. Love the old lever guns.




Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:58:32 PM EDT
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Very nice, congrats
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:58:42 PM EDT
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That's the real deal.  Nice!
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:59:15 PM EDT
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:17:19 PM EDT
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also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.
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Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:24:14 PM EDT
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also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.
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Troll post, granted, but to successfully troll you have to be believable - and a '73 can't run .30"-30.  .45" Colt maybe, or more likely .44"-40...
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:26:34 PM EDT
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.


Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................

Don't forget to get drilled and tapped for picatinny rail.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:26:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:28:49 PM EDT
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Nice find, you're making me jealous...how's the bore?

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:29:23 PM EDT
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.



also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.



i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.




Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................



Don't forget to get drilled and tapped for picatinny rail.
My buddy collects '92's and I keep asking him to drill and tap and then  thread the barrel then we'll toss a can and my acog on



He always says no
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:30:33 PM EDT
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In for the Tapco-fucking of it!




That is sweet BTW.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:31:25 PM EDT
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Damn nice looking for it's age. Do you know any history on it?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:33:45 PM EDT
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Why would a guy named Dr.colt buy a winchester

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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:34:34 PM EDT
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They're not that expensive for what you get - history.

One like this is worth $1,300- $1,500.

I got mine for $1,300.

Sellers are asking more, but once again my subscription to the blue book pays off.


Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:35:12 PM EDT
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Nice find, you're making me jealous...how's the bore?

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It's real nice - not dark at all.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:36:00 PM EDT
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Gonna get a Cody letter - $70.

They are pretty easy to order on-line now.


Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:36:55 PM EDT
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Colt never made any decent rifles ..................
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:39:30 PM EDT
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.



also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.



i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.




Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................



I know you are joking about chopping it... but a levergun that age wouldn't have to be SBR'd. IIRC there are some Winchesters that had 14" barrels from the factory, and exceptions were made for pre-1899 (?) guns.
 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:40:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:41:59 PM EDT
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Sweet!
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:42:36 PM EDT
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I know you are joking about chopping it... but a levergun that age wouldn't have to be SBR'd. IIRC there are some Winchesters that had 14" barrels from the factory, and exceptions were made for pre-1899 (?) guns.


 
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.


Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................

I know you are joking about chopping it... but a levergun that age wouldn't have to be SBR'd. IIRC there are some Winchesters that had 14" barrels from the factory, and exceptions were made for pre-1899 (?) guns.


 


Yea, ATF has the exceptions documented.

Don't know if you have to go through the SBR process since it's pre-1899 - may have to since it fires ammo that's still available commercially?????
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:43:49 PM EDT
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Colt never made any decent rifles ..................


Well, mostly.

I still think the Colt Sharps is really sexy.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:47:01 PM EDT
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also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.
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Don't forget the rail attachments points !  

And a single point sling !
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:56:24 PM EDT
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Don't know if you have to go through the SBR process since it's pre-1899 - may have to since it fires ammo that's still available commercially?????

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I know you are joking about chopping it... but a levergun that age wouldn't have to be SBR'd. IIRC there are some Winchesters that had 14" barrels from the factory, and exceptions were made for pre-1899 (?) guns.





 




Yea, ATF has the exceptions documented.



Don't know if you have to go through the SBR process since it's pre-1899 - may have to since it fires ammo that's still available commercially?????

I was under the impression that if it was made before 1899 it wouldn't be considered a SBR under the NFA. I don't know how that works if one were to chop a pre-1899 gun today though. I seem to recall some really short shotguns, both doubles and a few Winchester pump guns, as well.



All pointless, because someone would skin you alive if you hacked that fine levergun...



 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:58:40 PM EDT
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.


Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................

Don't forget to get drilled and tapped for picatinny rail.


I would put an optic  on it...probably a reddot.

I would hate to be in a tactical situation trying to operate something like that platform  in low light situations.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:13:54 PM EDT
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I was under the impression that if it was made before 1899 it wouldn't be considered a SBR under the NFA. I don't know how that works if one were to chop a pre-1899 gun today though. I seem to recall some really short shotguns, both doubles and a few Winchester pump guns, as well.

All pointless, because someone would skin you alive if you hacked that fine levergun...  
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Yea, ATF has the exceptions documented.

Don't know if you have to go through the SBR process since it's pre-1899 - may have to since it fires ammo that's still available commercially?????


I was under the impression that if it was made before 1899 it wouldn't be considered a SBR under the NFA. I don't know how that works if one were to chop a pre-1899 gun today though. I seem to recall some really short shotguns, both doubles and a few Winchester pump guns, as well.

All pointless, because someone would skin you alive if you hacked that fine levergun...  


My understanding is if it shipped from the factory, and is on the grandfathered list, it's exempt.  Chopping an antique would be pretty pointless, as you'd lose most of the advantages of antique status, and have to pay $200.  If you're going to SBR a levergun, might as well use a modern Title 1 gun.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:16:07 PM EDT
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I would put an optic  on it...probably a reddot.

I would hate to be in a tactical situation trying to operate something like that platform  in low light situations.

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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.


Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................

Don't forget to get drilled and tapped for picatinny rail.


I would put an optic  on it...probably a reddot.

I would hate to be in a tactical situation trying to operate something like that platform  in low light situations.



Side mount like an AK or M1A/M14.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:30:07 PM EDT
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I would put an optic  on it...probably a reddot.

I would hate to be in a tactical situation trying to operate something like that platform  in low light situations.
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i can recommend a great place to get it cerakote.

also a a new lightweight synthetic stock and that would be a great shooter.

i would probably re-barrel it into something better like 30-30.


Thinking about SBRing it and passing it off as a Trapper ....................

Don't forget to get drilled and tapped for picatinny rail.


I would put an optic  on it...probably a reddot.

I would hate to be in a tactical situation trying to operate something like that platform  in low light situations.

Bevel that mag port for tactical reloads, thread the barrel for flash suppressor/can, polymer speedfeed stock.  Hi speed lo drag.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:43:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:47:12 PM EDT
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Sweet

Congrats

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:48:00 PM EDT
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Awesome! I have a short barreled trapper I started a thread about here a little while back.
Winchester 92' trapper
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:49:35 PM EDT
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Wow nice! Looks a lot better than my 1876
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:53:14 PM EDT
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Man I really need one of those
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:53:20 PM EDT
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They're not that expensive for what you get - history.



One like this is worth $1,300- $1,500.



I got mine for $1,300.



Sellers are asking more, but once again my subscription to the blue book pays off.





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Tell us how much. I want something similar really bad.




They're not that expensive for what you get - history.



One like this is worth $1,300- $1,500.



I got mine for $1,300.



Sellers are asking more, but once again my subscription to the blue book pays off.





..I got a mod 94 made in 1902 in 38-55 for... 450 >_>



 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:54:32 PM EDT
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Gonna get a Cody letter - $70.

They are pretty easy to order on-line now.


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Gonna get a Cody letter - $70.

They are pretty easy to order on-line now.



I just got a Cody letter for my factory inscribed 1873. They look great on an old timey frame with green matting
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And a single point sling !
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Saddle ring was the original single point sling.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 3:17:43 PM EDT
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Saddle ring was the original single point sling.
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And a single point sling !


Saddle ring was the original single point sling.



And the 38-40 was the .40 S&W of the day...both shoot 180 grain .40 caliber bullets at around 1000fps, imagine that.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 3:18:53 PM EDT
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Keymod butt plate?  
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 3:41:48 PM EDT
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Meh.  Needs Magpul and moar tactical.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 4:33:37 PM EDT
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Friend of mine had one in 38-40 that shot at least MOA, he used to cut corn stalks in two at 100 yards.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 4:40:44 PM EDT
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Why would you want that old, worn-out rifle?

Send it to me for disposal.
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And the 38-40 was the .40 S&W of the day...both shoot 180 grain .40 caliber bullets at around 1000fps, imagine that.

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And a single point sling !


Saddle ring was the original single point sling.



And the 38-40 was the .40 S&W of the day...both shoot 180 grain .40 caliber bullets at around 1000fps, imagine that.


Everything old is new again!
Link Posted: 4/24/2016 4:00:03 PM EDT
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Let's try that link again:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1857798_.html

Were you able to sell it, or have you listed it in the EE?
Link Posted: 4/24/2016 5:12:44 PM EDT
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Beautiful rifle, OP.



Now you need a matching original Winchester reloading tool and mold set. I found one on eBay for my .44 WCF Cimarron Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle. The Winchester Model 1882 tool was made from 1882 up until 1914. They were made in .44-40 WCF, .38-40 WCF, and .32-20 WCF, and I think some other calibers.




































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Or, you can get an Ideal Number 6, which integrates the mold with the loading tool. Found this one at a gun show.
























I shot 50 rounds of black powder .44-40 WCFs through my Uberti '73 yesterday. Unfortunately the bullets are a bit small for my bore so accuracy wasn't great, but the soft lead bullets lubed with a 50/50 beeswax/mutton tallow mix (plus a little canning paraffin) kept the fouling down. I needed only two wet patches (both sides) before the next patch came out clean. Charge was 35 grains of FFFg Swiss black powder, plus a Federal large pistol primer.



 
 
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