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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:54:18 PM EDT


In the end, the populist revolutionaries who swept to power in Latin
America a decade ago proved to be worse than the corrupt oligarchs they
replaced. Instead of ushering in a new day of good governance and
transparency, the Bolivarian revolution is fizzling out under the weight
of its own massive corruption, ties to organized crime, intolerance and
megalomania.


The promises of the rule of law, democratic
openings, and authentic "people’s power” were mirages that have
vanished. It will take years for the continent to recover from the
wreckage of authoritarian populism that many initially thought held so
much promise.









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What is most disillusioning is that this discredited generation
of revolutionary leaders had a real chance to substantially remake
Latin America by offering a more inclusive, fair and less corrupt model
of government.


Many of the leaders (Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva,
his successor Dilma, Rousseff in Brazil; Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua;
Salvador Sánchez Cerén in El Salvador) had actually put their lives on
the line to defeat the old authoritarian and exclusionary order. Others
like Rafael Correa in Ecuador; Hugo Chávez in Venezuela; Evo Morales in
Bolivia were genuine political outsiders with a real opportunity to
create new governance models unmoored from the chokehold of traditional
elites. Some, like Argentina’s Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, were
simply megalomaniacal. All failed abysmally.




Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article73237642.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article73237642.html




Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:32:20 PM EDT
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Sure, sure--Socialism would have worked, if only they had tried harder, and not had quite so many wreckers and hoarders.
It was just bad luck that it ran into certain economic problems.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:32:26 PM EDT
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Marxism always "blows it".

It just blows it faster in tropical and equatorial regions.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:34:15 PM EDT
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Yep.  Woulda worked if they just had the right people running it.  So close.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:40:58 PM EDT
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Yep.  Woulda worked if they just had the right people running it.  So close.
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Yep.  Woulda worked if they just had the right people running it.  So close.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:46:28 PM EDT
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I was in Peru and Ecuador last year, and South America still seems to be lovin' it.  Saw lots of graffiti for it as well as lectures from several tour guides about how great it is.


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:50:41 PM EDT
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I wonder if this was part of the article from the Miami Herald i read today about the highest homicide rates in the world. I think 31 of the top 50 were located in Latin America.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:52:17 PM EDT
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You mean they fucked up there, thus their shitty population who wanted the shitty government in the first place move here...what????
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:57:46 PM EDT
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:00:02 PM EDT
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Reminds me of that Simpsons where Mr Burns and Homer escape to Cuba with the government's $1 trillion bill.  Castro's in a meeting and he says "This country is a basket case, it's time we finally admitted this communism mumbo jumbo just doesn't work."
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:00:56 PM EDT
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Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.

 
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:05:07 PM EDT
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  


And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:07:53 PM EDT
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Then they vote for it here.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:09:07 PM EDT
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And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  


And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...


If not for Pinochet, Chile would be on the list.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:09:27 PM EDT
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They aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:11:29 PM EDT
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It's never the system's fault.



Never.



Always seen as bad implementation by flawed people.



And we have too many here, that want that, here.




Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:11:43 PM EDT
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  


And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...


Explain in detail what the perfect economic system should look like.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:12:55 PM EDT
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As for south/latin america. It's the influence of the US fault.
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  




And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...




 



It's almost as if they righted the ship, fixed the economy, held a plebiscite, stepped down and retired.






Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:19:06 PM EDT
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Bush's fault.
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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  


And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...

 

It's almost as if they righted the ship, fixed the economy, held a plebiscite, stepped down and retired.





Yeah, what the fuck is that shit?  President for life, yo.

Just put on that bling and rule for "the duration of the crisis", right?




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As a side note, their motorcycle cops know how to handle car thieves.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:36:19 PM EDT
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I remember when my wife was telling about all the amazing and historical exploits of her grandfather.  Me, being your normal American hadn't learned the in's and outs of Mexican history.  So I decided to look up all the folks her grandfather hung out with.  My face went from to to to finally .  All of them were big time communist revolutionaries along with lots of her personal heroes from Mexico.  I asked her about it she said "what do you mean".  I had to explain to what communism was to which she said "oh well I don't like that".
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The Cubans were pretty much taking over Chile before Pinochet led the coup d'etat and saved his country.

 



Here's Allende with his bodyguards rocking Kalashnikovs.  Where'd they get those?






Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:15:18 PM EDT
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Once again Douglas Farah nails it!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:15:28 PM EDT
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thanks for posting this, OP.  interesting article, to be sure.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:28:12 PM EDT
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Didn't we already figure this out the last go around?  Jesus, people never learn...it's the ideology that never dies...kept alive by a new lot of rubes every generation who are drawn to the emotional pull and imagery of it.
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...and Colombia.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:36:26 PM EDT
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"Power to the People" always ends up meaning "Power to Me!".
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:38:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, what the fuck is that shit?  President for life, yo.

Just put on that bling and rule for "the duration of the crisis", right?

http://www.coinlink.com/News/images/washington_badge_Cinn.jpg


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Conspicuously absent from the list of Central/South American failures... Chile.
Mr. Pinochet diagnosed the problem pretty accurately: Commie bastards.  


And yet Pinochet and his junta are gone, as if some degree of economic freedom did a thing or something... hmm...

 

It's almost as if they righted the ship, fixed the economy, held a plebiscite, stepped down and retired.





Yeah, what the fuck is that shit?  President for life, yo.

Just put on that bling and rule for "the duration of the crisis", right?

http://www.coinlink.com/News/images/washington_badge_Cinn.jpg


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As a side note, their motorcycle cops know how to handle car thieves.



actually senator emeritus for life after he stepped down...after the referendum

had to hold a position that would have immunity if revisionist commie sympathizers came afer him.

which they did

in Spain


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