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Posted: 4/22/2016 3:52:33 AM EDT
[#1]
He was let go?
Surprise, surprise. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 3:54:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Oh this is going to be fun.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 3:59:52 AM EDT
[#3]
In.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:01:15 AM EDT
[#4]
In.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:03:52 AM EDT
[#5]
LEOSA? Right?
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:07:27 AM EDT
[#6]
18 USC 926(C)
(d) The identification required by this subsection is—
(1) a photographic identification issued by the agency from which the individual separated from service as a law enforcement officer that identifies the person as having been employed as a police officer or law enforcement officer and indicates that the individual has, not less recently than one year before the date the individual is carrying the concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the agency to meet the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training as established by the agency to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm; or (2) (A) a photographic identification issued by the agency from which the individual separated from service as a law enforcement officer that identifies the person as having been employed as a police officer or law enforcement officer; and (B) a certification issued by the State in which the individual resides or by a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that State that indicates that the individual has, not less than 1 year before the date the individual is carrying the concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the State or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that State to have met— (I) the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the State, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm; or (II) if the State has not established such standards, standards set by any law enforcement agency within that State to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. You need to carry your credentials + your annual qualification card: then you don't need a permit. If he didn't have the qualification card & the ID (not a fake shield) he should have been locked up... |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:07:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Everyone is equal. Of course some people are more equal.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:15:48 AM EDT
[#8]
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LEOSA? Right? He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:16:11 AM EDT
[#9]
He is lucky he was caught by cops. I bet he was shitfaced
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:19:10 AM EDT
[#10]
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He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEOSA? Right? He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Someone needs to FOIA his records to see if he did at least 10 years & if he left in good standing. Then they need to check to see which certified instructor qualified him - they have to keep detailed records in case they get subpoenaed. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:21:44 AM EDT
[#11]
In on 1 ..............
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:28:14 AM EDT
[#12]
All men are equal. Some are just more equal than others.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 4:30:10 AM EDT
[#13]
Well on the bright side this is an example of ban state police refusing to enforce unconstitutional laws.
 
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:10:01 AM EDT
[#14]
UnSAFE?
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:21:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Only ex LEO are professional enough to run around armed while the little people are carried off to jail for possession of a 30 round ammunition feeding device... NY.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:24:28 AM EDT
[#16]
Equality for all...
or something like that. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:25:18 AM EDT
[#17]
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Everyone is equal. Of course some people are more equal. 
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:35:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Coc
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:50:54 AM EDT
[#19]
So what hinky shit was that guy up to, checking a dead drop signal location or just meeting up with a control
or one of his runners. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:51:24 AM EDT
[#20]
In a park, fitting the description of having a beef with another man, more than likely shitfaced drunk. 2+2= zip, zero, nada...oogatz
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:51:51 AM EDT
[#21]
Ex, this is like the 3rd "cop" thread I've seen with your name on it. I smell smoke...
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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:54:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Permits, he don't need no stinkin' permits!
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:31:14 AM EDT
[#23]
Only ones
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:37:19 AM EDT
[#24]
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Someone needs to FOIA his records to see if he did at least 10 years & if he left in good standing. Then they need to check to see which certified instructor qualified him - they have to keep detailed records in case they get subpoenaed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEOSA? Right? He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Someone needs to FOIA his records to see if he did at least 10 years & if he left in good standing. Then they need to check to see which certified instructor qualified him - they have to keep detailed records in case they get subpoenaed. If he retired from westchester and this occurred in ny state, the leosa wouldn't apply, nor would the 10 year employment minimum. That's only for out of state carry. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:40:27 AM EDT
[#25]
us and "them."
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:41:04 AM EDT
[#26]
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If he retired from westchester and this occurred in ny state, the leosa wouldn't apply, nor would the 10 year employment minimum. That's only for out of state carry. That's what I was always told. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:53:31 AM EDT
[#27]
Laws are for little people. Move along peasant!
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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:57:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:06:33 AM EDT
[#29]
Discretion bruh.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#30]
My nephew interviewed for a police officer job in San Francisco. He was doing well up until one hypothetical question.
You stop a car going the wrong way on a one-way street. The driver is very intoxicated and happens to be the mayor. What do you do? He answered to the effect that he'd handle this the same way he'd treat anyone else. Doesn't matter who it is, the law's the law, etc, etc.. Apparently that wasnt the correct answer and he was determined to not be a good fit within the department. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:20:52 AM EDT
[#31]
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My nephew interviewed for a police officer job in San Francisco. He was doing well up until one hypothetical question. You stop a car going the wrong way on a one-way street. The driver is very intoxicated and happens to be the mayor. What do you do? Call my Sgt. to the scene and dump it on him.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:22:57 AM EDT
[#32]
"professional courtesy"
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:25:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Officer discretion bro.....
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:28:07 AM EDT
[#34]
I'd bet money he was drunk too.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:29:36 AM EDT
[#35]
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My nephew interviewed for a police officer job in San Francisco. He was doing well up until one hypothetical question. You stop a car going the wrong way on a one-way street. The driver is very intoxicated and happens to be the mayor. What do you do? He answered to the effect that he'd handle this the same way he'd treat anyone else. Doesn't matter who it is, the law's the law, etc, etc.. Apparently that wasnt the correct answer and he was determined to not be a good fit within the department. Did they tell him that was it? I was a naive guy and gave that answer too. 
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:32:02 AM EDT
[#36]
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Call my Sgt. to the scene and dump it on him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My nephew interviewed for a police officer job in San Francisco. He was doing well up until one hypothetical question. You stop a car going the wrong way on a one-way street. The driver is very intoxicated and happens to be the mayor. What do you do? Call my Sgt. to the scene and dump it on him. Friend of mine pulled over Congressman Schock about a week before he resigned here in Illinois, he was speeding, my buddy said after he ran the plate he got a call from his Lt. Told to let him slide and get him on his way, reason he had enough shit coming down on him and the ISP didn't need the attention. Schock had to be doing 90+ since my buddy doesn't light you up unless 15+ over the speed limit. So you had the correct answer 
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:33:01 AM EDT
[#37]
lol New York
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:34:29 AM EDT
[#38]
New York values.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:55:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Some animals are more equal than other animals.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:56:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Friggin New York.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:59:08 AM EDT
[#41]
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The officers only discovered who Raynor was when they opened up his wallet and found a metal shield that read “Westchester County District Attorney Chief Investigator” and a retired ID card. Cops asked Raynor if he had a pistol permit, but he responded that he didn’t need one, citing a federal law – the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act that allows qualified law enforcement and retired law enforcement to carry a concealed firearm in any jurisdiction in the country. How much you want to bet that even if he WAS covered under LEOSA due to previous employment that he never did any of the required qualifications |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:02:56 AM EDT
[#42]
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How much you want to bet that even if he WAS covered under LEOSA due to previous employment that he never did any of the required qualifications Yep. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:17:56 AM EDT
[#43]
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He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEOSA? Right? He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Don't know if I'm reading this right. Does this mean an LEO separated from service in say CA, would have to be tested and certified by his former CA agency if he then wanted to carry legally (under LEOSA) in his new state of residence (TX)? |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:19:13 AM EDT
[#44]
meh. i dont agree but meh.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:20:27 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LEOSA? Right? He might not have followed the requirements. Though he may be able to have a friend pencil whip some documents to say otherwise. LEOSA requires that you have, not less than one year before the date you are carrying a concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that state to have met the active duty standards for qualification in firearms training, as established by the state, to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm. Hmm might be wrong on that |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:21:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Wonder where the pistol came from, one he bought on his shield privately while on duty?
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:22:15 AM EDT
[#47]
No way.
There is no blue wall. Cops never brake the law Cops never cover up other cop's crimes. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:28:15 AM EDT
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So what hinky shit was that guy up to, checking a dead drop signal location or just meeting up with a control or one of his runners. John LeCarre approves of this post. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:28:45 AM EDT
[#49]
I think he was fucked on the restriction on carrying in parks if it was legal
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:30:05 AM EDT
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Don't know if I'm reading this right. Does this mean an LEO separated from service in say CA, would have to be tested and certified by his former CA agency if he then wanted to carry legally (under LEOSA) in his new state of residence (TX)? You can get qualified in the state you move to. You don't have to go to your former agency. |
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