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Posted: 4/18/2016 6:16:30 PM EDT
I think I know what you'll say, but I'll put it up for discussion anyways.
Scenario: emp/downed grid. Electronics are shot, gas is exhausted, society is collapsing because goods aren't moving. You and your family retreat from population centers to rural country. (This is most people's plan right?). Nearest town has a couple thousand people and lots of farmland. Do you: A) Hideout in your bugout location while society collapses, keeping a low profile as people die off and the chaos calms down. Emerge when your supplies are exhausted or order is restored. B) operate from bugout location, but engage the local township. Help work the farms, chop firewood, serve in militia, offer whatever skills you possess, etc; in an attempt to prevent a complete local societal collapse. Poll incoming |
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Most likely A.
I would like to try B but I am afraid of other people right now,not sure I would want to be around them after the lights go out for good. |
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Kill the weak, enslave the women, collect goods, build an empire.
You know, like the old days. |
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i already live in that area, with a town of 2000 nearby. ill take in a few decent HELPFUL people and provide them a safe place to live and feed them in exchange for hard work.
dont work, dont eat. |
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I would proclaim myself to be the Emperor of Montana and begin my tyrannical reign. |
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I would help my neighborhood. I wouldn't go further than walking distance from my house.
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i already live in that area, with a town of 2000 nearby. ill take in a few decent HELPFUL people and provide them a safe place to live and feed them in exchange for hard work. dont work, dont eat. View Quote This is what I would do. A small group will have difficulty dealing with a large group it doesn't matter if they are organized or if they are just a mob. The greater the number you have on your side the better your odds are of coming out on top. |
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i already live in that area, with a town of 2000 nearby. ill take in a few decent HELPFUL people and provide them a safe place to live and feed them in exchange for hard work. dont work, dont eat. View Quote Good luck deciding who's decent at that point. Kind of hard to check references during TEOTWAKI. |
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I figure to help a small enough group of people that can be vetted but large enough to hold what we have.
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Keep my family safe. Hopefully I have enough supplies to last for a while and the immediate chaos is dulled down. Maybe I help a few neighbors whom ive know for decades but past that no.
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WHen people in town went to the movies, I bought 9mm slugs.
When people in town bought beer to party this weekend, I sealed rice in mylar. They chose. I chose "A" |
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My plan is to go low-profile with my group and avoid outside contact for 3-4 weeks. After that, we poke our heads out, look around, and head downtown to see if there's functional city government and if they've heard from the rest of the state/nation.
Based on what I hear there, I take control of some abandoned government properties nearby and start farming. Which reminds me, I need to gather soil samples to send to the DNR. |
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A...I currently live outside of a small town (~6000 people) with a decent piece of property but my wife's family owns ~1700 acres (1200 or so farmland the rest woods with a large river running through it) about 20 minutes away, I'd round up everything of use, a few people I trust and know will pull their weight and head there and hunker down for however long is needed. Its where we spend our weekends anyway.
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LOL.....seriously, I'm helping the folks around me if I can. Not saying I'm going to feed them or water them...they should have bought their own shit, but L&O...ya, I'm supporting the constitutional government, until its not around anymore.
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C. Join the hundreds that are trying to enter the area from the cities.
Do you really believe that any rural district won't discriminate against you when you try to move in? |
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You have to have societal trust. It is one of the things that is tearing us apart, we are devolving into a familial/tribal trust type of place and it is absolutely toxic for recovery and continuation. If I am not willing to help my neighbor, why would he help me when I am in crisis?
Are there some who will take advantage of it, yes? They have to be dealt with harshly and fairly. But if everyone retreats, what could be a minor blip ends up wiping out civilization. If you are going to a rural area and you are just a weekender, how long do you think you will last if you aren't willing to pitch in? |
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I would proclaim myself to be the Emperor of Montana and begin my tyrannical reign. Sorry about that but I was here first You are the first on my list of those that will need to be eliminated. |
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If I hide out and don't go around all tier'd 1 out wasting the local population and stealing their shit, i'll be an arfcom pipe dream failure & we cant have that!
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Quoted: i already live in that area, with a town of 2000 nearby. ill take in a few decent HELPFUL people and provide them a safe place to live and feed them in exchange for hard work. dont work, dont eat. View Quote The Visigoths always show up and... well, you know.... |
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I'm already neckbearding chrome spray paint and dune buggies.
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Yea, this is about what I figured. I'd like to think that small communities could survive together, using larger numbers as good protection against threats, but the reality is that populations are unstustainably large. Even with everyone working the fields to put food on the table, you'd have massive shortages and food riots. Better to stay low until the population gets to be more manageable, then get involved if it suits you.
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View Quote Fuck it. Who wants to live forever? I'll go out and hunt "apex predators" for sport. |
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You need to team up with others.
Try to stay alone, and the wrong people will find you. |
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I wouldn't need to leave the area directly around my house for 3-4 months as it stands now. Will wait that time frame and then see how things look in the general area.
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WHen people in town went to the movies, I bought 9mm slugs. When people in town bought beer to party this weekend, I sealed rice in mylar. They chose. I chose "A" View Quote Dam dude you need to loosen up. Nothing wrong with having some preps but you sound like you've cut yourself off from society already. |
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So I'm gonna go out and help the sons-a-bitches who blew off the personal responsibility of being prepared, voted demoncraptic, lived of the fruits of my labor and tried to legislate away my means of protecting my family? Hardly. Fuck 'em. Let 'em kill each other off...and I'll go out and pick up the pieces. Fortune favors the prepared. |
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Don't invite the man into your life. That's before during and after any SHTF scenario.
A |
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Do as your air-dropped leaflet tells you to and stay in your home.
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I reject your reality and substitute my own, because the C option is that in the given scenario my initial plan would not be to fade the hot scene in the first place. My plan would be to follow my orders, which tell me where to deploy immediately and what to do. The military would be the last functional organization in any event. And should that fail, I think I would still rather take my orders from Marshal Koivuniemi than barter with some hicks.
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I would establish my Kingdom.
I live and work very rural. I would probably have to read about teotwawki on ARF to know it was happening. |
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I have some medical knowledge so I would feel obligated to help
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So it sounds like many chose C become warlord of your area.
I'm in the kinda b camp. But I'll be joining with a local warlord I'm cool with. Armies need soldiers yo. just throw a couple less than stellar broads I'm not picky. |
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Dam dude you need to loosen up. Nothing wrong with having some preps but you sound like you've cut yourself off from society already. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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WHen people in town went to the movies, I bought 9mm slugs. When people in town bought beer to party this weekend, I sealed rice in mylar. They chose. I chose "A" Dam dude you need to loosen up. Nothing wrong with having some preps but you sound like you've cut yourself off from society already. Depends on your definition of society. I know other like minded people, i consider them society... not much use for anything else. |
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