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I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment. Repeatedly fuck up in your unit? Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard. Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo. Sounds horrible to me. View Quote They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs. |
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View Quote Was about to post some of these. In comparison this British guardsman looked sloppy as fuck and had zero command presence. The Ministry of Silly Walks should re-think that petulant child foot stomping. |
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Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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M193? The M193 cartridge is a center-fire cartridge with a 55-grain, gilded metal-jacketed, lead alloy core bullet. The M193 round is the standard cartridge for field use with the M16A1 rifle and has no identifying marks. Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo Were those fencers behind a barrier or wearing a plate? Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it? We-el, not quite. The L2A1 used by the Royal Marines was an exact copy of the M-193 made by Radway Green. It was used in the small number of M-16A1s they had in service from the late '60s to the NATO adoption of the 5.56 round, when the L2A2 (SS109) became the standard issue ball round. |
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Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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M193? The M193 cartridge is a center-fire cartridge with a 55-grain, gilded metal-jacketed, lead alloy core bullet. The M193 round is the standard cartridge for field use with the M16A1 rifle and has no identifying marks. Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo Were those fencers behind a barrier or wearing a plate? Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it? We did use 55gn ammo in early M16s |
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They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment. Repeatedly fuck up in your unit? Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard. Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo. Sounds horrible to me. They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs. Guess that makes sense. Got hand it to those guys though, that job has had to have become considerably more difficult with the advent of youtube and the mobilephone video camera. |
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At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in. Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous.
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Why do people have to behave like assholes?
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A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg View Quote Wow, poor guys. They dont even pretend. Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something. |
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Wow, poor guys. They dont even pretend. Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg Wow, poor guys. They dont even pretend. Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something. What are you referring to? |
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A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg Wow, poor guys. They dont even pretend. Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something. What are you referring to? No idea. Mind you, I personally think 6 rounds and a bayonet is a bit on the meager side, but it ain't defenseless. And given the location, I'm pretty sure that a single round going off is going to result in something of a massive response from all sorts of folks with more ammo. |
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A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg View Quote Looks like Windsor? |
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IIRC DK prof did that for the queen of Denmark. He got a magazine that was flush with the C7 mag well that held six or seven rounds. He also reported that they had either on them or near them another 30 rounds. The guards off watch are the QRF and they had multiple magazines worth ready to go. Those 36 rounds would bring reenforcements quite quickly.
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At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in. Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous. View Quote Those are their regular uniform shoes. Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours. |
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View Quote Man there are some real dumbass people out there. |
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The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence. "I warned you to stay off the fence" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am guessing stamping his foot is the only warning they give. From wiki, so take it for what it's worth: Sentries receive instruction on how to eliminate nuisance or any suggestion of threat from members of the public. There is a protocol they follow which begins with "stamping" (coming to attention sharply). He will also shout: "Stand back from the Queen's Guard" or similar. If this does not eliminate the nuisance or threat he will repeat the stamp and shout again. If the nuisance or threat still does not cease the sentry will assume the position of "port arms" whereby he points his rifle at the source of the interference with his duties. If these warnings are not heeded the sentry then has the choice of detaining the person(s) himself or pressing the button in his sentry box to summon assistance. Backed up by http://changing-guard.com/changing-guard-buckingham-palace.html The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence. "I warned you to stay off the fence" You cannot work in govt. Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective... |
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Those are their regular uniform shoes. Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in. Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous. Those are their regular uniform shoes. Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours. Hink they are hobnail or some such thing. Look for videos of them loosing their shit and slipping and eating shit. They have a traditional and/or sentimental meaning. The honor guys get my respect after having been to two service funerals where honor guards looked over the fallen until services/burial were completed. These guys take their role fairly seriously. |
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quite frankly, I have nothing but respect for all the ceremonial guards.
Totally thankless, exceedingly boring, sometimes people just fuck with 'em and there's not much they can do about it. I don't have the patience for it personally and I really respect those that do. I imagine the beefeater gear is hot as shit, but they have to suck it up. The Old Guard guys are out there no matter the weather. I assume pretty much all palace guards of other nationalities are the same. |
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Quoted: Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: M193? The M193 cartridge is a center-fire cartridge with a 55-grain, gilded metal-jacketed, lead alloy core bullet. The M193 round is the standard cartridge for field use with the M16A1 rifle and has no identifying marks. Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo |
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I like how everyone started laughing when he was pointing his rifle at them and telling them for a 3rd/4th time to get off the fence. View Quote The very few times in my life I've had a gun pointed at me I don't think I've laughed about it. I guess I'm not as tough as most people. |
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I can't imagine what kind of idiot tourist gets their jollies fucking with a palace guard while he's on duty.
If he's one of ours, sorry old chaps. Feel free to beat some sense into them...probably not possible but at least it will make good video. |
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Wonder if they even have live ammo? Ceremonial guards generally don't That sucks. They're not just ceremonial. They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot. |
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Whoever attempted to blur out the guard's face sure did a shitty job of it. Best Simspons scene ever. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Whoever attempted to blur out the guard's face sure did a shitty job of it. Best Simspons scene ever. International Drainage Commission |
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They're not just ceremonial. They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wonder if they even have live ammo? Ceremonial guards generally don't That sucks. They're not just ceremonial. They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot. Is it in the rifles, or do they have to run a quarter of a mile to get it? |
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You cannot work in govt. Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am guessing stamping his foot is the only warning they give. From wiki, so take it for what it's worth: Sentries receive instruction on how to eliminate nuisance or any suggestion of threat from members of the public. There is a protocol they follow which begins with "stamping" (coming to attention sharply). He will also shout: "Stand back from the Queen's Guard" or similar. If this does not eliminate the nuisance or threat he will repeat the stamp and shout again. If the nuisance or threat still does not cease the sentry will assume the position of "port arms" whereby he points his rifle at the source of the interference with his duties. If these warnings are not heeded the sentry then has the choice of detaining the person(s) himself or pressing the button in his sentry box to summon assistance. Backed up by http://changing-guard.com/changing-guard-buckingham-palace.html The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence. "I warned you to stay off the fence" You cannot work in govt. Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective... ...and cheaper than whatever the retards in gov are using |
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Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary. Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland? Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wonder if they even have live ammo? Ceremonial guards generally don't That sucks. Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary. Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland? Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere So security improved after the michael fagan incidents? |
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The buffoons on here mocking him are as bad as the dimwit on the fence and euro trash laughing like monkeys.
Show some fucking respect for our brothers. |
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IIRC those guys are active duty soldiers from Guards units. ie: they are real deal soldiers and not just for ceremony.
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Not enough bayonet. View Quote http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598044/Security-fears-Buckingham-Palace-Queens-Guard-pulls-rifle-intruder-ranted-police-marching-gates.html |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg Wow, poor guys. They dont even pretend. Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something. What are you referring to? I'm guessing he's referring to the empty bayonet scabbard on their belts. As per usual GD protocol, excessive and increasingly-degrading self-abuse has caused his eyesight to fail, so he hasn't noticed that the bayonets are actually mounted on the rifles. Instead, he assumes "ha ha ha, Engerland soldurs don't have no knives!" |
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Was I the only one watching this and thinking "Please don't be an American...please don't be an American..."?
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Palace guards should be allowed to butt stroke to the jaw of anyone who touches them
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Quoted: They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment. Repeatedly fuck up in your unit? Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard. Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo. Sounds horrible to me. They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs. Dude. Don't bother. This place is full of Philistines. |
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Quoted: The buffoons on here mocking him are as bad as the dimwit on the fence and euro trash laughing like monkeys. Show some fucking respect for our brothers. View Quote I'll give a pass to anyone who's actually pulled guard duty, ceremonial or not. Soldiers goofing on soldiers is what soldiers do. Soldiering and the traditions thereof are not something comprehensible to everyone, especially the clowns harassing the sentries in the videos. There's a cure for it. It's called a buttstroke. Properly delivered, it would convey that decorum in some public spaces is not negotiable. ETA beat. |
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