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Posted: 2/22/2016 8:05:45 AM EDT
Russia wants to fly over US with advanced digital cameras
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Russia will ask permission on Monday to start flying surveillance planes equipped with high-powered digital cameras amid warnings from U.S. intelligence and military officials that such overflights help Moscow collect intelligence on the United States.
Russia and the United States are signatories to the Open Skies Treaty, which allows unarmed observation flights over the entire territory of all 34 member nations to foster transparency about military activity and help monitor arms control and other agreements. Senior intelligence and military officials, however, worry that Russia is taking advantage of technological advances to violate the spirit of the treaty. *** The request will put the Obama administration in the position of having to decide whether to let Russia use the high-powered equipment on its surveillance planes at a time when Moscow, according to the latest State Department compliance report, is failing to meet all its obligations under the treaty. View Quote Not much of a position for Obama, of course he will allow it, and no doubt why they want to now instead of after the election. |
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How big of a check will Obama cut them to undermine the security of the US?
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It's part of the Open Skies Treaty, that's right there in your quote. I guess Obama could withdraw from it, that would be a nice little surprise.
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What do the Russians want to see? Miami Beach? Maybe see how busy Fed Ex is, more trucks for Russians to drive I guess.
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty.
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Can I have the overflight schedule? Need to know when to go outside, drop pants and bend over.
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I don't want Russian drones peeping on my daughter sunbathing in my back yard.
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google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty. google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. I would imagine sensors in the visual spectrum would be the least of everyone's concern. |
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Probably want to fly over California. Then they'll give the film to the LAPD so they can take his marijuana away again for the third time.
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All citizens should have infinite access to ordnance. Then the true American patriots could shoot down these sovereignty destroying flights.
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty. google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. Google Earth does not allow for reading cigarette packs' labels or underground scanning. This is likely part of the "second term's more flexibility" and the airplanes and satellites will likely also have nukes and other stuff. |
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I don't think this is as bad as the article makes it sound. A little quick wiki research on Open Skies shows:
I'm a lot less skeptical now than I was 5 minutes ago. |
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty. google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. Google Earth does not allow for reading cigarette packs' labels or underground scanning. Neither does the open skies treaty. Limited to 30cm imagery, and no sensors for underground scanning. |
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Why is this in the last paragraph of the article?
The treaty, for instance, obligates each member to make all of its territory available for aerial observation, yet Russia has imposed restrictions on surveillance over Moscow and Chechnya and near Abkhazia and South Ossetia, he said. Russian restrictions also make it hard to conduct observation in the Kaliningrad enclave, said Rademaker, who believes Russia is "selectively implementing" the treaty "in a way that suits its interests." |
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As long as Russia is playing fuck fuck games with the treaty, we should disallow them full viewing of our country.
This seems pretty simple. |
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Sure Vlad...come on over... https://img.rt.com/files/news/3d/7a/50/00/poland-us-patriot-missiles.si.jpg View Quote Why do you want to kill Americans? |
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Why is this in the last paragraph of the article? The treaty, for instance, obligates each member to make all of its territory available for aerial observation, yet Russia has imposed restrictions on surveillance over Moscow and Chechnya and near Abkhazia and South Ossetia, he said. Russian restrictions also make it hard to conduct observation in the Kaliningrad enclave, said Rademaker, who believes Russia is "selectively implementing" the treaty "in a way that suits its interests." View Quote If that's true Done deal...Fuck you and go home. Obozo will welcome him in and pay him to do it...Vlad be the him. I smell fish in the air...sum ting not white. |
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Why the fuck would we sign the open skies treaty? Ask your boy Bush the First. I was wondering how many FBHOs would be posted before this blnugget was revealed. Also this is related to something Eisenhower wanted to do, but the Soviets shot it down. Not really sure what we have to hai from this, other than the possibility of a false sense of security. |
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IF we don't allow it with planes they will do it with satellites anyways.
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Add this bull crap to the list of things that need to be undone the first week of Trump's presidency.
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We need to build a bunch of starfighters and mecha, and SHIELD helicarriers out of plywood and park them out in the desert STAT.
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Allow it on condition that the photos are available to hunting websites within 24 hours.
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It's part of the Open Skies Treaty, that's right there in your quote. I guess Obama could withdraw from it, that would be a nice little surprise. View Quote the quote also mentions that Russia isn't fulfilling all the terms of that treaty. I'd consider forcing them to comply before granting the fly-overs. That should give us time to paint a nice rosy picture for them |
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google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty. google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. In the past there were areas that were blurred out - Bremerton's Naval shipyard in Washington state, and portions of Diego Garcia (an island in the Indian Ocean) as an examples. Not done any more. |
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Russia wants to fly over US with advanced digital cameras WASHINGTON (AP) -- Russia will ask permission on Monday to start flying surveillance planes equipped with high-powered digital cameras amid warnings from U.S. intelligence and military officials that such overflights help Moscow collect intelligence on the United States.
Russia and the United States are signatories to the Open Skies Treaty, which allows unarmed observation flights over the entire territory of all 34 member nations to foster transparency about military activity and help monitor arms control and other agreements. Senior intelligence and military officials, however, worry that Russia is taking advantage of technological advances to violate the spirit of the treaty. *** The request will put the Obama administration in the position of having to decide whether to let Russia use the high-powered equipment on its surveillance planes at a time when Moscow, according to the latest State Department compliance report, is failing to meet all its obligations under the treaty. View Quote Not much of a position for Obama, of course he will allow it, and no doubt why they want to now instead of after the election. View Quote Obama's position? On all fours with his ass in the air, ready to take on whomever wants to drill him. |
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google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is a ridiculous treaty that may help undermine US sovereignty. google earth is open to anyone, if we really want to hide something I'm sure its already hidden. I'm sure their not interested in the stuff on Google earth. |
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We should shoot it down and say hey just a little pay back for Gary Powers.
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Get your drone loads ready boys.
If I knew the time and place of the fly over a nice little sign in a large open field would great them. F- - K you. |
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Russia wants to fly over US with advanced digital cameras WASHINGTON (AP) -- Russia will ask permission on Monday to start flying surveillance planes equipped with high-powered digital cameras amid warnings from U.S. intelligence and military officials that such overflights help Moscow collect intelligence on the United States.
Russia and the United States are signatories to the Open Skies Treaty, which allows unarmed observation flights over the entire territory of all 34 member nations to foster transparency about military activity and help monitor arms control and other agreements. Senior intelligence and military officials, however, worry that Russia is taking advantage of technological advances to violate the spirit of the treaty. *** The request will put the Obama administration in the position of having to decide whether to let Russia use the high-powered equipment on its surveillance planes at a time when Moscow, according to the latest State Department compliance report, is failing to meet all its obligations under the treaty. View Quote Not much of a position for Obama, of course he will allow it, and no doubt why they want to now instead of after the election. View Quote So now that they can't simply buy this data from Hillary they have to go out and get it themselves? |
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We get far more out of it than the Russians, probably. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why the fuck would we sign the open skies treaty? We get far more out of it than the Russians, probably. No kidding. We would actually follow treaty limits. As for Russia, trust but verify. |
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