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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:32:15 PM EDT
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Don't tell them where you are going.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:34:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:36:39 PM EDT
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. I feel like that's slightly underhanded, especially if they ask. They'll find out seconds after I start my new job by nature of what I do (b2b sales), and I don't really want to burn any bridges. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:36:39 PM EDT
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. Sure is interesting that people want to "show someone up" so badly they lose all common sense. ETA: If you don't want to burn bridges if they ask to counter then provide them the opportunity. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:39:05 PM EDT
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Sure is interesting that people want to "show someone up" so badly they lose all common sense. ETA: If you don't want to burn bridges if they ask to counter then provide them the opportunity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. Sure is interesting that people want to "show someone up" so badly they lose all common sense. ETA: If you don't want to burn bridges if they ask to counter then provide them the opportunity. On your first part, are you saying I would be showing them up by telling them, or that it's a dick move to not tell them? I'm confused. On the second part, I don't know what I would stay for. I just don't like who I work for. I'm not sure any reasonable amount of money would change my mind. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:44:25 PM EDT
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On your first part, are you saying I would be showing them up by telling them, or that it's a dick move to not tell them? I'm confused. On the second part, I don't know what I would stay for. I just don't like who I work for. I'm not sure any reasonable amount of money would change my mind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. Sure is interesting that people want to "show someone up" so badly they lose all common sense. ETA: If you don't want to burn bridges if they ask to counter then provide them the opportunity. On your first part, are you saying I would be showing them up by telling them, or that it's a dick move to not tell them? I'm confused. On the second part, I don't know what I would stay for. I just don't like who I work for. I'm not sure any reasonable amount of money would change my mind. You are losing your common sense in your urge to one up your existing boss. They have no reason to know where you are going to. Simply provide a two weeks and state you received an offer with better hours, pay, benefits etc, but appreciate the employment and everything they did for you. That is it. The only reason IMHO, you want to tell your boss exactly where you are going is to "show that sorry son of a bitch." You will burn your bridges doing this. It is a dumb idea because there is nothing to stop him from contacting them and saying negative things about you. ETA: I find the more drama and trouble one tries to get in or cause, the more they seem to have in their life.  Karma has a way of catching up to you.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 3:45:46 PM EDT
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Might be doing this next week. How did it go for you? Any funny or good stories? My boss is a narcissistic tool so I would imagine he is going to go ballistic. Someone must have a good experience to share. What general business? |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 4:58:43 PM EDT
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None of their business where you are going........stay classy.....always ask yourself "by doing this what do I hope to accomplish"
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:47:00 PM EDT
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Make sure you have all your stuff off of company property because they could walk you to the front door right then.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:54:24 PM EDT
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None of their business where you are going........stay classy.....always ask yourself "by doing this what do I hope to accomplish" So here's how I see it going down: I say I'm leaving and give an intent to resign in 2 weeks, they ask me where am I going. Is it more bridge burney to not tell them or tell them? Believe me, I wouldn't bring it up by my on accord but I am 99.999% sure my boss will ask. If he finds out it is to a competitor, I guarantee you he won't be asking me to work out my 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:55:11 PM EDT
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I wouldn't tell him where you are going, but I would tell HR during your exit interview or your boss' boss that you are leaving because of him. I would actually give them my 2 weeks notice (instead of your boss) and sit down to explain why he drove you, an excellent employee, away from this company you've worked so hard for.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:55:24 PM EDT
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If you've already got the new job, just call in that morning and tell them you no longer want to work there and wish them well.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:56:00 PM EDT
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Don't tell them where you are going. And instead of refusing to say, be like "somewhere that offered me a challenging work environment without the issues and distractions" So he will forget to press for the company name |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:56:27 PM EDT
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He went ballistic (he HATED the company I left to go work for...with a fiery passion). I gave him two weeks, and he said "Don't bother coming in tomorrow. In fact, leave now".
Was a pretty nice guy, prior to that. 
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:57:08 PM EDT
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I had a quarter of our office do that last year. I'm not the manager of the office (I do manage the project managers).
It's not so bad. Don't be surprised if you are walked off right.l then and there. But at the end of the day, we all have experience in a job and only so many places to work. It happens. Good luck at your new job. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 5:58:42 PM EDT
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. This. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:02:29 PM EDT
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Here is my 2 weeks notice.
Where am I going, well these are my concerns. Why am I leaving, good business decision for me. Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:03:34 PM EDT
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... there's no benefit telling them where you're going, or why
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:10:44 PM EDT
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I gave my notice and they typically walk you on spot if they know. I told then and was sent home told to come back in the next day so they could make a counter offer. I had been at that job 10 years so I went back to here the counter. I was shocked it was very competitive. I basically felt like to little to late.
I left at the end of the day thought about it overnight. The following day I returned and advised my manager and the VP that I appreciated the counter offer but was going to pursue the new opportunity. P.S. I always told myself I was going to just walk but... no real reason and not really my personality. YMMV |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:15:09 PM EDT
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Turned in my 2 weeks notice after 24 years at the same company. Worked up till 5 pm the last day.
Took a couple months off and relaxed. Went to work for a competitor (hadn't decided where I was going when I quite, but had a couple offers). Chose the best one. After 6 months, former employer found out where I was at and siked the corporate attorney on me. They sent a certified letter to the ceo of my new company and myself making false claims of theft and stealing customer info. New companies attorneys wrote back and said that I was not under any non-compete (useless in ND anyway) and that they should go screw themselves. Stated that claims in the original letter were demonstrably false. Former employer wrote back and agreed they were full of shit and dropped everything. Fuck my former employer. After they were purchased in 2005, everything started going to shit. I was one of the last old school holdouts. I had had enough and had told them multiple times the 2 years before I left that things needed to change. They didn't so I left. Fuck em. If I get bored and have some extra cash sometime, I still may sue the fuckers for the lies they spread. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:19:45 PM EDT
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Ha ha - narcissistic tool - that is a pretty accurate description of a manager I worked for years ago when I left and went to a competitor. He demanded to know why I was unhappy and leaving.
I knew if I answered his questions we would just end up in a pissing match and I wasn't interested. I just told him "for personal reasons." He finally hinted that I may not get my vacation pay if I didn't have a lengthy interview with him and fill out his form. And I finally hinted that perhaps the BOL might have a form for him to fill out - and left. What a bozo....... He's still that way today, but I don't have to work for him now either. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:21:32 PM EDT
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I walked into my managers office and told them me and my brother were starting our oen shop. I think they shit a brick. then I walked into parts department and got a wholesale account.
they told me I wouldn't make it and would be begging for my job back in a year. a few years later the parts manager told me I was buying 20% more then their own service department. lololol |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryETA: If you don't want to burn bridges if they ask to counter then provide them the opportunity. Do not take a counter under any circumstances. It will not end well especially with a pos boss. Also, dont tell him where you are going. Lie if you have to. It's none of his or the company's business. V |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:26:40 PM EDT
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He was surprised but took it well.
Left the door open for me if I ever changed my mind, still on good terms and do business with him occasionally. Just don't burn a bridge unless you really have to. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So here's how I see it going down: I say I'm leaving and give an intent to resign in 2 weeks, they ask me where am I going. Is it more bridge burney to not tell them or tell them? Believe me, I wouldn't bring it up by my on accord but I am 99.999% sure my boss will ask. If he finds out it is to a competitor, I guarantee you he won't be asking me to work out my 2 weeks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: None of their business where you are going........stay classy.....always ask yourself "by doing this what do I hope to accomplish" So here's how I see it going down: I say I'm leaving and give an intent to resign in 2 weeks, they ask me where am I going. Is it more bridge burney to not tell them or tell them? Believe me, I wouldn't bring it up by my on accord but I am 99.999% sure my boss will ask. If he finds out it is to a competitor, I guarantee you he won't be asking me to work out my 2 weeks. Not caring what they say or think about it is a stronger position to take. Just make sure all the stuff you need that's yours is packed up from your workstation. (Sneak it out before hand if possible.) If the boss is truly a dick, they'll walk you out right then and there anyway. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:47:23 PM EDT
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I always tell them I'm relocating to Idaho.
Ive never told an employer where I was going. If they ask, just say your not sure where your going to work next. Tell them your taking some time off and are going to get caught up on some stuff around the house or finish your novel. Then bounce. Oh, make sure you have the thumb drive with their costumer mailing list and the trojan up loaded before giving notice. TLDR - If you tell them where your going, they will walk you out the door 90sec later. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 6:47:47 PM EDT
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He said . . . "Hahaha . . . I don't have any competitors." I said . . . "You do now." 
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Posted: 2/20/2016 8:30:18 PM EDT
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I told my boss I was leaving for a competitor and they tried to sue me.
I had the CEO , sales Manager, and the VP fly in on a charted plane the next morning and meet with me during business hours. They threw all kinds of money at me , but I told them I had to do what was best for me and that I enjoyed working here, but knew exactly what was going on behind the scene with the buyout. They were pissed when they said I signed a non compete and I said no I did not and that I had asked for a copy from the corp accountant twice, and had the emails, and nothing was supplied. Of course there was no signed non compete , but dang were they hot! I told them I would be knocking on the doors of my customers come Monday and they escorted me to the door. Im surprised they didnt toss me out on my ass. Of course they took me to deposition to try and fry me, but they had nothing on me. I took $2 million in customers sales from them and helped move another $3 mil in the next year. The corp company sold out to a larger company about 90 days after I left and only two people stayed working out of 35 after that 90 days. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 9:52:58 PM EDT
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I told my boss I was leaving for a competitor and they tried to sue me.
I had the CEO , sales Manager, and the VP fly in on a charted plane the next morning and meet with me during business hours. They threw all kinds of money at me , but I told them I had to do what was best for me and that I enjoyed working here, but knew exactly what was going on behind the scene with the buyout. They were pissed when they said I signed a non compete and I said no I did not and that I had asked for a copy from the corp accountant twice, and had the emails, and nothing was supplied. Of course there was no signed non compete , but dang were they hot! I told them I would be knocking on the doors of my customers come Monday and they escorted me to the door. Im surprised they didnt toss me out on my ass. Of course they took me to deposition to try and fry me, but they had nothing on me. I took $2 million in customers sales from them and helped move another $3 mil in the next year. The corp company sold out to a larger company about 90 days after I left and only two people stayed working out of 35 after that 90 days. So I moved into my current position from being a drafter. I don't ever remember signing a non compete when I started employment as a drafter, and the only records I have when I moved to sales are signing the compensation plan. Either I signed a non compete and lost my copy, or didnt and wouldn't be surprised if my manager tried to fabricate one. Damed if I did, likely damned if I didn't. I'm asking HR on Monday if they have a copy of everything. Anyways, if I give a letter of intent to resign in 2 weeks and they walk me out right then, they still have to pay me right? Or else it would be them firing me? I'm confused on that part. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 10:04:35 PM EDT
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If you give a employer a 2 week notice and they tell you to leave, are you able to draw unemployment?
Seems like they fired you. Since you where planning on working 2 more weeks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 10:27:14 PM EDT
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After 8 years got laid off on a Monday morning.
Was told to take the day off but I could work the rest of the week if I wanted to, if not they'd still pay me thru the end of the week. Ended up coming back in Tuesday to Friday to finish up work and get my coworkers up to speed. Didn't want to be a dick to them as they didn't do anything wrong. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 10:38:01 PM EDT
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When do you start the new job...have you accepted already, and is the paperwork dry?
My advice would be not to say...but if you have to, have fun with it...mention that xyz company offered you a job (don't imply that you've taken it already). Wait for a response, and go from there. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 10:52:23 PM EDT
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He went ballistic (he HATED the company I left to go work for...with a fiery passion). I gave him two weeks, and he said "Don't bother coming in tomorrow. In fact, leave now". Was a pretty nice guy, prior to that. This is what I expect, even when I don't go to that hated competition. I expect as soon as I mention leaving they'll bundle my ass up and send me packing. Boss man is very, very irrational and getting worse. The CEO and COO will try hard to keep me. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 10:59:55 PM EDT
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Where i work, if you turn in your notice, they'll ask where you're going. If u refuse to say, u get walked out right away. If u say you're going to a competitor, u get walked out right away. If you're not doing either of those, you get to finish out your 2 weeks. No matter what, you'll still get paid for that time. There are only hard feelings if you refuse to say where you're going.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:00:42 PM EDT
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he's about to find out in a week or so.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:05:00 PM EDT
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Guy screwed over his boss/company when he quit, did a lot of bad things. A couple of years later at the new company, his old boss bought the guys new company. Guess what?
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:05:30 PM EDT
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The owner of the small business that I worked for is LEO, and told me that if they received any poor Yelp reviews, he would "make my life hell."
The fella took Yelp reviews very seriously, much like the south park episode. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:11:41 PM EDT
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So I moved into my current position from being a drafter. I don't ever remember signing a non compete when I started employment as a drafter, and the only records I have when I moved to sales are signing the compensation plan. Either I signed a non compete and lost my copy, or didnt and wouldn't be surprised if my manager tried to fabricate one. Damed if I did, likely damned if I didn't. I'm asking HR on Monday if they have a copy of everything. Anyways, if I give a letter of intent to resign in 2 weeks and they walk me out right then, they still have to pay me right? Or else it would be them firing me? I'm confused on that part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I told my boss I was leaving for a competitor and they tried to sue me.
I had the CEO , sales Manager, and the VP fly in on a charted plane the next morning and meet with me during business hours. They threw all kinds of money at me , but I told them I had to do what was best for me and that I enjoyed working here, but knew exactly what was going on behind the scene with the buyout. They were pissed when they said I signed a non compete and I said no I did not and that I had asked for a copy from the corp accountant twice, and had the emails, and nothing was supplied. Of course there was no signed non compete , but dang were they hot! I told them I would be knocking on the doors of my customers come Monday and they escorted me to the door. Im surprised they didnt toss me out on my ass. Of course they took me to deposition to try and fry me, but they had nothing on me. I took $2 million in customers sales from them and helped move another $3 mil in the next year. The corp company sold out to a larger company about 90 days after I left and only two people stayed working out of 35 after that 90 days. So I moved into my current position from being a drafter. I don't ever remember signing a non compete when I started employment as a drafter, and the only records I have when I moved to sales are signing the compensation plan. Either I signed a non compete and lost my copy, or didnt and wouldn't be surprised if my manager tried to fabricate one. Damed if I did, likely damned if I didn't. I'm asking HR on Monday if they have a copy of everything. Anyways, if I give a letter of intent to resign in 2 weeks and they walk me out right then, they still have to pay me right? Or else it would be them firing me? I'm confused on that part. Unless is a big company you arent getting anything if you dont work out your two works, even if they tell you not come in. You are only owed what you work. I dont think its a big deal, dont be a dick, if they ask, tell them like a grownup. Be polite. Ive had some guys that went to work for customers and they were unrehirable when they wanted to come back for the simple fact they they lied about going there or pulled bullshit about trying to get paid for benefits and vacation they weren't entitled to when they left. Ive had 4 get together long after they were gone and file complaints with the labor commission bc i didnt pay them for their vacation. They said i fabricated the handbook that said that wasnt policy. I had emails proving that not only did i not fabricate it, 2 of those girls worked with the consultant to write the handbook 9 years before that.
They only did that because i sued one of them. She was our remote accountant and refused to turn over our files when she left. The average person is incapable of parting ways with a company in a professional matter because the act like emotional children. |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:23:00 PM EDT
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Did that several years ago. Now my boss then and even his boss have come over to the company I work at now.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:29:38 AM EDT
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Did that several years ago. Now my boss then and even his boss have come over to the company I work at now. That's the problem, right? People seldom really change industries completely. I will very likely run into my bosses or coworkers in the future. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:33:10 AM EDT
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He put his big red shoes up on his desk and said "fine, have it your way"
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:37:15 AM EDT
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... there's no benefit telling them where you're going, or why Yea I'm sure its been said but if your old boss is a vindictive asshole he could always call up there and say shit like you had kiddie porn on your company computer or you like to walk around with your fly undone. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:38:23 AM EDT
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A coworker who does the same job as me did this two years ago, nothing bad happened. Don't tell your boss to go fuck himself or any other asshole move and it will be fine.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:45:40 AM EDT
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On July 31st 2000, I left my job to BECOME my boss's biggest competitor.
The situation got so nasty I had to get an attorney to help me navigate. My employer tried to "renegotiate" my contract for the 3rd time (read: "lower my commissions") I went to one last conference that was a, "Do or die" mission where I demanded my contract be honored or else I would leave the company. My lawyer told me that, if I had to leave, to resist any temptation to make "The Final Speech". He said the only person who ever listens is the speechmaker themself, and it never comes out good. My lawyer told me the less said the better. When the negotiations failed, I did exactly as planned and rehearsed. I took a deep breath, exhaled half (...and pulled the trigger?) I exhaled half and said, "I will try to make the transition as painless as possible", nothing more. Then I walked to my office, picked up MY Rolodex, and walked out the door. My lawyer told me the less someone said the better, because nothing you can say is more threatening than your enemy THINKS you said in their own mind. I didn't call them...I waited for them to call me (..about 4 days later) In the meantime, I called EVERYONE in my Rolodex and let them know I could still be reached on my cell phone. I confess, I had changed my voicemail message about 6 months before I left; "I'm working outside the office and can't check my messages so please just call me on my cell phone at 555-1212". Pretty soon, none of my clients called me at my office anymore and no one at the office even noticed. A few months later, their single biggest client was mine and had dumped them completely (...about a third of their annual income left and followed me) A year later, ALL my clients had followed me to MY new agency.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:49:25 AM EDT
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They knew it was coming, the place was falling apart.
Of course that 25% raise helped. I walked in one day, resigned and walked out the door. I had been telling them for two years that for the position the pay was well below where it needed to be, they new it and did nothing. When I left it opened the flood gates, four others left, two were managers all over pay and job security. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:51:47 AM EDT
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I feel like that's slightly underhanded, especially if they ask. They'll find out seconds after I start my new job by nature of what I do (b2b sales), and I don't really want to burn any bridges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell them where you are going. This. No reason to tell them. I feel like that's slightly underhanded, especially if they ask. They'll find out seconds after I start my new job by nature of what I do (b2b sales), and I don't really want to burn any bridges. To late for that.. Expect them to walk you out, and or try to counteroffer pretty hard if they like you. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:52:03 AM EDT
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It's not always so bad as people on Arf say it will be. We've had two guys quit to go to large competitors in the last two years. First guy was allowed to work his two weeks, left, and came back a year and a half later. Second guy gave notice, was offered 10% to stay, and allowed to work 10 more weeks since his new job didn't start until then and he wanted to help us transition to someone new.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 10:31:45 AM EDT
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On July 31st 2000, I left my job to BECOME my boss's biggest competitor. The situation got so nasty I had to get an attorney to help me navigate. My employer tried to "renegotiate" my contract for the 3rd time (read: "lower my commissions") I went to one last conference that was a, "Do or die" mission where I demanded my contract be honored or else I would leave the company. My lawyer told me that, if I had to leave, to resist any temptation to make "The Final Speech". He said the only person who ever listens is the speechmaker themself, and it never comes out good. My lawyer told me the less said the better. When the negotiations failed, I did exactly as planned and rehearsed. I took a deep breath, exhaled half (...and pulled the trigger?) I exhaled half and said, "I will try to make the transition as painless as possible", nothing more. Then I walked to my office, picked up MY Rolodex, and walked out the door. My lawyer told me the less someone said the better, because nothing you can say is more threatening than your enemy THINKS you said in their own mind. I didn't call them...I waited for them to call me (..about 4 days later) In the meantime, I called EVERYONE in my Rolodex and let them know I could still be reached on my cell phone. I confess, I had changed my voicemail message about 6 months before I left; "I'm working outside the office and can't check my messages so please just call me on my cell phone at 555-1212". Pretty soon, none of my clients called me at my office anymore and no one at the office even noticed. A few months later, their single biggest client was mine and had dumped them completely (...about a third of their annual income left and followed me) A year later, ALL my clients had followed me to MY new agency. Did your previous employer have the smarts to formulate a non-compete clause in your employment contract? Or did you refuse to sign, but they just rolled with it? |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 10:38:31 AM EDT
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They asked how much more I was going to be making and said they would match it plus 50%.
I laughed and walked out. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 11:03:30 AM EDT
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That's the problem, right? People seldom really change industries completely. I will very likely run into my bosses or coworkers in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did that several years ago. Now my boss then and even his boss have come over to the company I work at now. That's the problem, right? People seldom really change industries completely. I will very likely run into my bosses or coworkers in the future. No, not really a problem. They both work in different departments and I might see them a couple times a year. Say Hi and some chit chat, but no problems. My immediate boss then was so happy at the new place, said he even understood why I made the jump. Hope it all goes well for you. |
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