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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:53:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:53:58 PM EDT
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98 k
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:54:10 PM EDT
[#2]
rusty pipe
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:54:11 PM EDT
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ww1 standard Gewehr 98 Mauser. If it hasn't been fucked with it'll shoot 8mm.
ETA- stock's been fucked with. Goody. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:54:12 PM EDT
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German Mauser
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:56:05 PM EDT
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The remains of a German Gewehr 98, that should be chambered in 8mm Mauser.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:57:24 PM EDT
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9mm Parabellum
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:58:43 PM EDT
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He got took. I'll give him $50 for it.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:03:46 PM EDT
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Yep,'98 Mauser. Looks pretty good from the pics. The bolt should also be numbered to the gun. I personally like the rear sight, but its addition has damaged the collector value.
If he plans to shoot it, he should probably get a chamber cast to make sure of the caliber. While the bore's probably still 8mm, the chamber may have been reamed for something like an 8mm-06 sometime in the past. It wasn't uncommon inn the 50s and 60s to do this kind of thing with the plentiful and cheap surplus guns. Also, check for importer marks, they may be hidden behind wood somewhere. If they're absent, he's got a pre-'68 gun, possibly a souvenir bring-back. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:05:49 PM EDT
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rusty pipe Lol. That's what I told him. 
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:08:30 PM EDT
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Bubba'd Model 98 Mauser that could use a blue or Parkerizing job.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:10:14 PM EDT
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Gew 98.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:10:17 PM EDT
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Lol. That's what I told him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: rusty pipe Lol. That's what I told him. Clean it up, and he could make a really nice elephant gun out of that. Lock time of the 1898 Mauser won't best a modern rifle, but it's the action many, many custom rifles have been built of of. Very strong action, and controlled round feed. Given the receiver peep sight, it probably was a reasonably accurate bbl & has probably taken its fair share of deer over the years. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:47:03 PM EDT
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Gew. 98 Mauser
Prob 8mm |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 3:39:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 98 k Nope. It's a sporterized Gewehr 98 from WW1. The Kararbiner Kar. 98k was introduced in the 1930s. Chambering should be 8mm Mauser, assuming it's the original barrel, but have a 'smith check for sure. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 3:43:25 PM EDT
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Gew. 98 Mauser Prob 8mm Yep, should be 8mm. Does the bolt serial match the receiver? |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:16:19 PM EDT
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98 k This |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:26:45 PM EDT
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Not worth much in that condition, half that or less if the bore is nasty.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:29:06 PM EDT
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How much did your brother pay for it?
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:33:27 PM EDT
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Poorly sporterized Mauser 98. Nice rear aperture sight though.
You may want to have a chamber cast done and then headspacing checked because of the mismatched bolt. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:34:12 PM EDT
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Luger
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:35:21 PM EDT
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Hi-Point C9 in the 40 watt range.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 98 k This Receiver says it was made in 1916. I don't think 98Ks existed yet. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 4:55:42 PM EDT
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Any chance that a commercial Oberndorf Mauser ?
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Posted: 1/2/2016 6:16:48 PM EDT
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Any chance that a commercial Oberndorf Mauser ? No . . . Commercial Mausers did not have the thumb cut in the left receiver sidewall. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 6:37:27 PM EDT
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I don't know anything about it, but I'd have someone check to be SURE before stuffing an 8mm in it and pulling the trigger.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 6:42:20 PM EDT
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Receiver says it was made in 1916. I don't think 98Ks existed yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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98 k This Receiver says it was made in 1916. I don't think 98Ks existed yet. Would that make it a 98 or 98a? 98a is a carbine model. And was it 8mm or 7.92? The latter wasn't developed until after WWI so I would definitely not drop a round in it and pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 6:47:07 PM EDT
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A rusty , molested Mauser . I hope he did not pay a lot .
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Posted: 1/2/2016 7:00:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep,'98 Mauser. Looks pretty good from the pics. The bolt should also be numbered to the gun. I personally like the rear sight, but its addition has damaged the collector value. If he plans to shoot it, he should probably get a chamber cast to make sure of the caliber. While the bore's probably still 8mm, the chamber may have been reamed for something like an 8mm-06 sometime in the past. It wasn't uncommon inn the 50s and 60s to do this kind of thing with the plentiful and cheap surplus guns. Also, check for importer marks, they may be hidden behind wood somewhere. If they're absent, he's got a pre-'68 gun, possibly a souvenir bring-back. Listen to this guy. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 7:04:51 PM EDT
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That's the gun from Heat... But it's really rusty.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 7:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would that make it a 98 or 98a? 98a is a carbine model. And was it 8mm or 7.92? The latter wasn't developed until after WWI so I would definitely not drop a round in it and pull the trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Would that make it a 98 or 98a? 98a is a carbine model. And was it 8mm or 7.92? The latter wasn't developed until after WWI so I would definitely not drop a round in it and pull the trigger. 8mm Mauser is the American designation for the round. The Germans called it 7.9x57J* originally. The original loading as introduced in 1888 had a .318" diameter bullet. In 1905 when they introduced the Spitzer bullet, they increased the bullet size to .323" and redesignated it as 7.92x57JS*. Many earlier rifles with J-bores -- including Model 1888 Commission Rifles -- were reworked so that they could safely shoot JS-ammo, and had a large S stamped on the receiver ring. *Sometimes written as 7.9x57I and 7.92x58IS. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 8:34:09 PM EDT
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98 k This Uh...No. It's a severely bubba'd WW1 vintage German GEW 98. Barrels been cut back, still has remains of " Roller Coaster " rear sight base. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 8:41:49 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/ryanredsvt/media/Firearm%20related/20160101_164255_zpsnyapwflk.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t397/ryanredsvt/Firearm%20related/20160101_164255_zpsnyapwflk.jpg</a> this link has more information |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 9:04:05 PM EDT
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. While the bore's probably still 8mm, the chamber may have been reamed for something like an 8mm-06 sometime in the past. It wasn't uncommon inn the 50s and 60s to do this kind of thing with the plentiful and cheap surplus guns. Which was funny considering it is was sold as a way to use .30-06 brass in an 7.92x57 which is very easily done by running the case in to a 7.92x57 sizing die and trimming. On the getting a headspace gauge for it, you likely only need the field gauge and make sure which version of 7.92mm Mauser you actually need: http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=324038 |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 3:11:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which was funny considering it is was sold as a way to use .30-06 brass in an 7.92x57 which is very easily done by running the case in to a 7.92x57 sizing die and trimming.
On the getting a headspace gauge for it, you likely only need the field gauge and make sure which version of 7.92mm Mauser you actually need: http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=324038 Uh, it's a Mauser. So you'd need 7.92x57mm JS, or the .323" bullet. If it was an 1888 Commission Rifle, he'd have to figure it out. Since it was built in 1916, 11 years after the switch to .323", it'll be a .323" bbl, the only question is if the chamber is still 57mm or possibly 63mm. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 3:14:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/3/2016 5:51:50 AM EDT
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He bought a receiver and possibly a bolt that can be used for a custom hunting rifle, with a lot of work and a lot of money needed to achieve the goal. The rest, sadly, is now worthless.
Were it in original condition, it would be a find, but the sloppy "sporterization" combined with the rust throughout makes it a rifle of exactly zero value, unless he puts far, far more money into it. And even then, he'll never be able to sell it for anything but at a loss. Think of it as someone with a beginner's course in welding under their belt "customizing" a Model T or Model A, then expecting it to be worth something. It will NEVER be worth what an original would be, even if the work done somehow actually does improve it, and the "work" done on that rifle (and subsequent neglect, evidenced by the rust) was more damaging than simply doing nothing at all. Hate to say it, but your brother got took. How badly remains to be seen, depending on what he paid for it. Hopefully, he paid no more than 50 bucks for it, 'cause that's all it's worth, and I may be too optimistic even then. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 5:53:41 AM EDT
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Gewehr 98 from The Great War
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Posted: 1/3/2016 6:01:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh...No. It's a severely bubba'd WW1 vintage German GEW 98. Barrels been cut back, still has remains of " Roller Coaster " rear sight base. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 98 k This Uh...No. It's a severely bubba'd WW1 vintage German GEW 98. Barrels been cut back, still has remains of " Roller Coaster " rear sight base. I wouldn't say it's "bubba'd" From the pics, it looks like a good rifle. Who know's when it was sporterized, but it was common for old timers to sporterize modern military rifles of their time. Really no different than taking this:  And making it this:  |
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