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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:58:40 PM EDT
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Yay Glock Perfection and NY safe action 12# pulls
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:00:09 PM EDT
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone?
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:02:07 PM EDT
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80lb triggers and zero practice, no surprise there
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:02:27 PM EDT
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At least no bystanders were hit
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:02:48 PM EDT
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I heard those guys really put on an exhibition at pistol matches.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:05:51 PM EDT
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Oh well.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:08:46 PM EDT
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No dogs harmed.....? I am calling BS on the story.
Where did the other 69 go? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:10:17 PM EDT
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? Lol, first thing that caught my eye, too. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:14:25 PM EDT
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At least the anti-cop nut jobs will be happy that the cops finally shot a perp in the leg rather than center mass.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:15:25 PM EDT
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Might wanna call out the precinct and have them walk the route, shoulder to shoulder...with that many rounds, gotta be some downed bystanders.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:15:28 PM EDT
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Extorris-
was it really that bad in NYC that non of the officers trained with a handgun? whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:15:59 PM EDT
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? Today's journalists are not much more than mediocre high school students. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:16:02 PM EDT
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At least the anti-cop nut jobs will be happy that the cops finally shot a perp in the leg rather than center mass. Ben Carson will be happy. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:16:42 PM EDT
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Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:16:52 PM EDT
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Hey, thats the NYPD Marksman Team of The Year you're talking about. Show some respect.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:17:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: LINK A gun-toting Brooklyn bandit was shot, wounded and busted early Friday after a wild gunfight with cops where dozens of bullets flew — and only one found its mark, police said. Jerrol Harris, 27, was hospitalized with a single gunshot to the calf after a running gun battle ignited when he blasted a Brooklyn man while trying to rob the victim’s SUV, police said. A half-dozen police officers fired roughly 70 shots at Harris, who squeezed off 11 rounds from a stolen gun in return before his arrest in Bushwick. No cops were wounded in the shootout with Harris, whose criminal past included a rap sheet dating to 2003 with arrests in Louisiana and New York. The fleeing suspect was nabbed by cops in part because of his bright red pants, police said. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:18:15 PM EDT
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Today's journalists are not much more than mediocre high school students. A.W.D. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? Today's journalists are not much more than mediocre high school students. A.W.D. 
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:18:26 PM EDT
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LINK A gun-toting Brooklyn bandit was shot, wounded and busted early Friday after a wild gunfight with cops where dozens of bullets flew — and only one found its mark, police said.
Jerrol Harris, 27, was hospitalized with a single gunshot to the calf after a running gun battle ignited when he blasted a Brooklyn man while trying to rob the victim’s SUV, police said. A half-dozen police officers fired roughly 70 shots at Harris, who squeezed off 11 rounds from a stolen gun in return before his arrest in Bushwick. No cops were wounded in the shootout with Harris, whose criminal past included a rap sheet dating to 2003 with arrests in Louisiana and New York. The fleeing suspect was nabbed by cops in part because of his bright red pants, police said. #ohsnap |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:20:47 PM EDT
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? This. I read that and said WTF? Glad nobody else was hit, sounds like NYPD needs to spend a bit more time qualifying their guys though. That article sounded more like a Vietnam firefight than a Police incident. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:21:18 PM EDT
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster by your side kid" H. Solo, Captain |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:21:46 PM EDT
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Glad nobody else was hit, sounds like NYPD needs to spend a bit more time qualifying their guys though. Qualifying is not training. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:22:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: LINK A gun-toting Brooklyn bandit was shot, wounded and busted early Friday after a wild gunfight with cops where dozens of bullets flew — and only one found its mark, police said. Jerrol Harris, 27, was hospitalized with a single gunshot to the calf after a running gun battle ignited when he blasted a Brooklyn man while trying to rob the victim’s SUV, police said. A half-dozen police officers fired roughly 70 shots at Harris, who squeezed off 11 rounds from a stolen gun in return before his arrest in Bushwick. No cops were wounded in the shootout with Harris, whose criminal past included a rap sheet dating to 2003 with arrests in Louisiana and New York. The fleeing suspect was nabbed by cops in part because of his bright red pants, police said. If the NYPD had missed the skel it would be 100% (0 hits out of 'roughly' 81). As it is its a 1.2% hit rate. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:22:54 PM EDT
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That trigger is a bitch.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:23:13 PM EDT
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Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? New York daily news isn't a real newspaper, just a big napkin with some bright pictures and a few simple but dramatic words printed on it. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:25:16 PM EDT
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For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. His bosses want to pay for it, theirs don't |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:26:58 PM EDT
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That's gotta be a record.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:27:29 PM EDT
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At least no bystanders were hit Shocking! |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:28:11 PM EDT
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His bosses want to pay for it, theirs don't Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. His bosses want to pay for it, theirs don't Get their email addresses and forward them link to this thread
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His bosses want to pay for it, theirs don't Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. His bosses want to pay for it, theirs don't |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:28:43 PM EDT
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The article didn't mention how many dogs were collateral damage.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:28:51 PM EDT
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A 12# trigger pull has to be a bitch to aim decently with. Do the ESU guys get different guns with more normal trigger pulls or is everyone issued the same thing?
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:30:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:31:00 PM EDT
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Would I be correct in saying its probably cheaper just to settle with bystanders/their families that are shot than to actually ensure NYPD officers are proficient with their guns? I'm sure they've had someone crunch the numbers. Even if they wanted to pay for it they don't have the facilities to handle the amount of people that would be scheduled for training. They barely have room now between requals, special unit's training, and academy recruit training. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:31:30 PM EDT
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Are we sure it wasn't a ricochet? Did he actually get directly hit?
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:31:47 PM EDT
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This. I read that and said WTF? Glad nobody else was hit, sounds like NYPD needs to spend a bit more time qualifying their guys though. That article sounded more like a Vietnam firefight than a Police incident. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did a newspaper really write that the guy "blasted" someone? This. I read that and said WTF? Glad nobody else was hit, sounds like NYPD needs to spend a bit more time qualifying their guys though. That article sounded more like a Vietnam firefight than a Police incident. Not qualifying, there's no training taking place. They need to spend time training. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:32:24 PM EDT
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Do the ESU guys get different guns with more normal trigger pulls or is everyone issued the same thing? No idea, maybe one of them will chime in and answer. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:32:33 PM EDT
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Qualifying is not training. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad nobody else was hit, sounds like NYPD needs to spend a bit more time qualifying their guys though. Qualifying is not training. You get most of your firearms training in the academy, correct? I know the difference between training and qualifying, but I have a question: In your years there, how often did you have to qualify? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:32:41 PM EDT
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There should be a law against this sort of behavior
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:32:52 PM EDT
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Oh well. Your funny and original....I like you.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:33:21 PM EDT
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I wonder if they accounted for where all the rounds went, probably not..
'Two plainclothes cops and two officers from the 83rd Precinct were treated for tinnitus, ringing of the ears, at Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, officials said. Two cops from the 81st Precinct were treated for tinnitus at Kings County Hospital.' There is no treatment for tinnitus, just compensation...  |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:33:27 PM EDT
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Only Imperial Stormtroopers could be so precise.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:33:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would I be correct in saying its probably cheaper just to settle with bystanders/their families that are shot than to actually ensure NYPD officers are proficient with their guns? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:34:29 PM EDT
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Only Imperial Stormtroopers could be so precise. Let me guess, the perp was wearing a red shirt? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:34:32 PM EDT
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They should have done in 7, so says Andy. Because, no one needs that amount.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:34:45 PM EDT
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You get most of your firearms training in the academy, correct? I know the difference between training and qualifying, but I have a question: In your years there, how often did you have to qualify? I got all of my "training" in the academy. Requal was 50 rounds twice a year. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:34:49 PM EDT
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For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the deal with their lack of shooting skills? Lack of training. I was talking with one of our LEOs here from Texas and he gets more mandatory firearms training after the academy in a 3 month period than I got in 18+ years. For the largest police force in the country (correct?), that's pretty messed up. What is there? 34,000 cops in NYC? A thousand rounds a year per for training would be 34 million rounds in the budget. I totally understand why even though it's a shame. Not only that, if they ordered 34 million rounds, the tin foil hat brigade would flip. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:35:14 PM EDT
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I wonder if they accounted for where all the rounds went, probably not.. 'Two plainclothes cops and two officers from the 83rd Precinct were treated for tinnitus, ringing of the ears, at Wyckoff Heights Medical Center, officials said. Two cops from the 81st Precinct were treated for tinnitus at Kings County Hospital.' There is no treatment for tinnitus, just compensation... LOD, tax free. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:35:40 PM EDT
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Over the years I went shooting with about a half dozen nypd officers. Most were bad or terrible shots the best one was just alright definitely not good.
It doesn't surprise me. |
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