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Posted: 9/3/2015 12:44:03 PM EDT
I have a garage 35x30 with 12' ceiling. Its one big open room. How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper? What do you think it would cost me in materials? How much would a sheetrock guy charge me to do it? Including the ceiling.
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Quoted: I have a garage 35x30 with 12' ceiling. Its one big open room. How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper? What do you think it would cost me in materials? How much would a sheetrock guy charge me to do it? Including the ceiling. View Quote Not sure can you screw a screw in? Somewhere between $100-$10,000. |
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Figure the material cost. Double that for someone to do it for you. Even illegal laborers will cost you $12-15 hr.
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If you don't know the answers to any of these questions...you will make bigger mess than its worth and and cost yourself twice what it should.
"How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper?" ....umm you need someone with a little experience at mudding...you would be the helper. Mudding isn't learned on YouTube. |
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Rent a lift, get help, it can be done. I'd be tempted to hire out a ceiling that large because there's an awful lot that could go wrong and would be painfully obvious.
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Good question do you even want to mud it? View Quote I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. |
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The actual sheets are like $12-15 in my experience. Not a super expensive item. You can get basic 4x8 or 4x12 sheets for longer walls so you have less seams.
As others said, mudding is the hard part and takes practice and skill to be good at to get even walls without waves and humps. Doing the ceiling will also be a challenge without a lift and stilts I would think....or some friends to help. You're not gonna get a sheet on the ceiling by yourself, that's for sure. |
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Quoted: Not sure can you screw a screw in? Somewhere between $100-$10,000. How much does a 4'x16' of Sheetrock cost you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have a garage 35x30 with 12' ceiling. Its one big open room. How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper? What do you think it would cost me in materials? How much would a sheetrock guy charge me to do it? Including the ceiling. How much does a 4'x16' of Sheetrock cost you? Yeah, I can drive a screw. Not sure how tough hanging 12' sheets would be versus just stroking a check. A 4'x12' x1/2" sheet of lightroc is $18 at the local HD. |
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I have found sheetrock guys are cheap and do a job SOOO much better than I could ever do it.
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Harbor Freight sells a lift for <$200, but I don't know if it will raise to a 12' ceiling height. You cannot do it without one. NFW
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Quoted: If you don't know the answers to any of these questions...you will make bigger mess than its worth and and cost yourself twice what it should. "How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper?" ....umm you need someone with a little experience at mudding...you would be the helper. Mudding isn't learned on YouTube. View Quote Its a garage. I dont need a class 5 finish. I will spray the walls when complete and before long shelves will be installed and all my crap moved in. a perfect finish isnt necessary. |
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I hate drywall, so for me the cost of having a crew do it in three hours is beyond worth it.
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I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... |
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It's easy enough to do on your own. Not being a pro it will take you longer, it did for me.
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Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... That too. Paint makes a HUGE difference in protecting it, especially in a damp environment like a garage. |
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Quoted: If you don't know the answers to any of these questions...you will make bigger mess than its worth and and cost yourself twice what it should. "How difficult would it be to sheetrock myself or with a helper?" ....umm you need someone with a little experience at mudding...you would be the helper. Mudding isn't learned on YouTube. View Quote |
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Have you considered a rough texturing? If so then mudding the seams doesn't need to be perfect. Just tape, mud, and sand. Thin down some more mud and roll it on with a coral roller.
ETA- That's a lot of room to be texturing. Still could be an option for you. |
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Depends on how handy you are at other things. If you can't change your own oil and and replacing a light switch scares you, then hire a pro. Otherwise hanging sheetrock, mudding and taping and texturing is a piece of cake, ceilings are the hardest you'll need a drywall jack, I found working on stilts to be easy, it made my wife nervous the whole time. But then I just replaced all 4 wheel bearings, front lower ball joints, did a complete brake job and adjusted the valves on my Honda Element.
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I never have done drywall before, but when I built my 24'28' shop I sheet rocked it myself with a friend to help holding up the ceiling pieces while I screwed them in. It was no big deal, just took time.
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Have you considered a rough texturing? If so then mudding the seams doesn't need to be perfect. Just tape, mud, and sand. Thin down some more mud and roll it on with a coral roller. ETA- That's a lot of room to be texturing. Still could be an option for you. View Quote Texture in a garage holds too much dust. Vacuuming walls and ceiling is a PITA in a garage. YMMV but I'd rather have a so-so tape/mud job with paint--and smooth. |
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Quoted: Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... |
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Quoted: Nope other than patching a few holes here and there View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Have you done any drywall before? Nope other than patching a few holes here and there |
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Guys that are knowledgeable in this:
Say I have a similar garage and want to insulate the walls and put something up on the interior walls. Should I choose drywall or osb? Doesn't need to look nice just would like a layer over the insulation. |
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I did my mother in laws garage and it was easy. Rented a lift for the ceilings. The seams don't look great but it s a garage so who cares.
Many guys put OSB on the walls, more durable and makes hanging things easier. |
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Quoted: If I mathed correctly that's about 60 boards. I am paying hangers $10 a board to hang and $10 to finish (except for level IV and up smooth). I'd probably pay $12 a board for the 12' ceiling height. You can rent/buy a drywall lift: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61QR4-Yh3qL._SL1120_.jpg View Quote |
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I'm not a drywall guy but believe it is code. I beleive if it is an attached garage it needs to have 1 or 2 layers of 5/8 drywall for fire protection and one coat of mud and tape to seal the seems. I can only assume to prevent exhaust fumes fom entering the house View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... It's more for fire code. To seal the gaps to prevent smoke and flames from penetrating the drywall. Drywall doesn't burn very easily and fires spread easily through the gaps between sheets if not mudded. |
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Guys that are knowledgeable in this: Say I have a similar garage and want to insulate the walls and put something up on the interior walls. Should I choose drywall or osb? Doesn't need to look nice just would like a layer over the insulation. View Quote I'm not terribly knowledgeable, but I hate OSB with a passion. I'd put the 5/8" drywall with the "firecheck" paper on it. OSB doesn't have a single use where it doesn't suck. It's ONLY redeeming feature is price, and I'm a "buy once/cry once" kind of guy, so screw OSB. YMMV, as well as others who are more knowledgeable than I. |
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Hanging sheetrock ain't that hard. Some contractors are very proud of themselves and will charge you a ton of money to do something you can easily do yourself. If this is your first attempt at it, the "mudding" process might be a bit messy, but otherwise, have a go at it if you think you can manage it. MIght be a bit spendy getting all the right tools at first, but working with sheetrock is a great skill to learn I think.
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its a detached garage so I dont have to worry about that. Great point TBK on the smooth walls not collecting dust.
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Quoted: Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... |
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I just came to post that I knew a guy who pronounced it "she-trock". Of course normal people call it drywall
Also, get one of these: http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391 |
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Quoted: I'm not a drywall guy but believe it is code. I beleive if it is an attached garage it needs to have 1 or 2 layers of 5/8 drywall for fire protection and one coat of mud and tape to seal the seems. I can only assume to prevent exhaust fumes fom entering the house View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good question do you even want to mud it? I've seen a lot of garages not mudded. Just my little opinion, but I've always wondered why they bothered to install drywall if they weren't going to finish it properly, as a fair job takes only a little extra time and effort, and almost no $$. Or painted... I've seen a lot of garages with drywall that they never painted.... |
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I just came to post that I knew a guy who pronounced it "she-trock". Of course normal people call it drywall Also, get one of these: http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391 View Quote I used those, then decided I wanted to "get serious" so I spent the $$ for a Milwaukee drywall screw gun made for the purpose. I LOVE Milwaukee tools but that damned thing is a complete PITA and works for crap. Even with constant adjustments for depth it almost never sinks a screw just right. I ended up back with the things you linked as those work perfect every time. |
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I would suggest you get a couple, maybe 3 estimates and compare that to the materials cost and what you feel your labor is worth plus using a buddy or two.
Here are a few WAG numbers to look at: 20 sheets of 4x16 1/2 inch dw (walls) $18 per sheet? $360 17 sheets of 4x16 1/2 inch dw (ceiling) $18 per sheet? $306 16" on center rafters 17 sheets of 4x16 5/8 inch dw (ceiling) $22 per sheet? $374 I would recommend 5/8" if the ceiling rafters are 24" on center 2 cases of adhesive $90 50 lbs. 1 inch dw screws $80 2 - 500' rolls of dw tape $12 4 - 5 gal buckets of GP mud 9 bucks per bucket $36 1 - 20 lbs bag of quick set mud $9 6" dw knife $10 12" dw knife $10 2 - mud pans $22 mud mixing tool $16 hand sander $9 10 -sander screen $15 25 pack razor blades $12 dw lift $150 to $250 dw saw $10 approx total = $1147 +/- $200 regarding the dw thickness for the ceiling and the quality of the lift you get. Plus tax! I would use a local lumber yard and have them place the dw right in the center garage with their lift. If you didn't want to get a lift you could build a small scaffold for two guys, but getting the dw up the scaffold is a bear. Plus beer and ice ETA; I'm assuming you already have a good drill, utility knife, basic hand tools |
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