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Posted: 9/2/2015 5:50:13 PM EDT
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id probably contact the realty company on the sign out front.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 5:50:43 PM EDT
[#2]
That is what an inspection is for.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 5:53:09 PM EDT
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That is what an inspection is for. This. The selling realtor is going to bury the info on problems and such. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 5:56:08 PM EDT
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I guess it's possible that the seller is not aware of the sewer issues since the property was foreclosed. Is it something that would be detected by the buyers home inspector?
Beat by several minutes. I type too slow. 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:06:48 PM EDT
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I guess it's possible that the seller is not aware of the sewer issues since the property was foreclosed. Is it something that would be detected by the buyers home inspector? Beat by several minutes. I type too slow. Look up "due diligence." |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:10:39 PM EDT
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I bought a foreclosed property and you are essentially purchasing it 'as is'.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:16:52 PM EDT
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That is what an inspection is for. I have never know of a single inspection that runs a drain camera out to the street. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:17:21 PM EDT
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just going off my own inspection... I dont think a inspection would catch that
house being empty the water would have to run for a while to get the sewer to back up those pipes can hold more water than most people think would probably require more than just a couple flushes and running some faucets that the inspectors do |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:26:41 PM EDT
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or basically anything that used a large amount of water. what are the odds that an inspector is gonna run water long enough to find that out? flush toilet? water leaves and returns.... check turn on sink, shower, hose? water comes out, then goes away... check doesnt care about laundry, as it has nothing to do with health/safety I'd be a smartass and put a sign just barely on your property line advising buyers to contact (whoever came out and inspected it while you lived there) about much needed and expensive repair. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:26:58 PM EDT
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I honestly don't think this is something *most* home inspectors would notice.
 (edit - not knocking home inspectors, but the posters above that are basically giving a potential buyer a "sucks to be you if your inspector didn't find it")
However, once a potential buyer has an inspection done, and IF the inspector finds the issue, then the realtor will have to disclose this on other offers. It might cost you some money, but maybe hire an inspector to check out the house, tip him or her off about the sewage issue, then there you go. One way of getting the issue disclosed, without getting on the realtor company's bad side. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:32:06 PM EDT
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Our home inspector ran the dishwasher a full cycle on high during the inspection to test it. Would that be enough to cause the sewer drain to back up?
I would want to know that a house I was buying had problems, but I don't know the best way to go about relaying that information... |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:35:39 PM EDT
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I bought a foreclosed property and you are essentially purchasing it 'as is'. Yep, the bank doesn't know it, doesn't want to know, hopefully an inspector catches it. That's why foreclosures go cheap, the buyer is assuming the risk, should be purchasing it discounted with plans to drop some $$$ to fix it. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:40:39 PM EDT
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Pretty sure the home owner has an obligation to disclose. If they lie and say they didn't know then the buyer is screwed unless they can prove the seller knew of the problem.
If you contact the sellers agent it becomes his problem too as he also can lie, but the owner may just fire him You could wait until the house is sold and knock at the door but then you may end up having to testify in court or at a deposition. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:52:49 PM EDT
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12k dollars, huh? Is this house hundreds of feet from the road?
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never know of a single inspection that runs a drain camera out to the street. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is what an inspection is for. I have never know of a single inspection that runs a drain camera out to the street. Here its a requirement before sale. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:22:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly don't think this is something *most* home inspectors would notice. (edit - not knocking home inspectors, but the posters above that are basically giving a potential buyer a "sucks to be you if your inspector didn't find it")However, once a potential buyer has an inspection done, and IF the inspector finds the issue, then the realtor will have to disclose this on other offers. It might cost you some money, but maybe hire an inspector to check out the house, tip him or her off about the sewage issue, then there you go. One way of getting the issue disclosed, without getting on the realtor company's bad side. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:30:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here its a requirement before sale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is what an inspection is for. I have never know of a single inspection that runs a drain camera out to the street. Here its a requirement before sale. lol sorry I couldnt resist. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:36:41 PM EDT
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Let the seller's agent know in writing, especially if the house is HUD and restricted to teachers, firefighters, police, or owner occupant. If it goes to investors looking to flip it ... maybe.
I bought a foreclosure with some problems. Most I knew about, however there was one unsealed joint in the plumbing. It had been leaking two or three drops each time the toilet flushed for 20 years behind a kitchen cupboard. Found it by accident. Talking with the wife of the plumber who was a friend of the former owners who came out to identify and quote a "fix the stink" job, even he misdiagnosed the actual cause. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:44:14 PM EDT
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Buy it dirt cheap, fix it live happy
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:10:29 AM EDT
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On the other hand... if the buyer is going to be your neighbor, you have to live with him. Maybe it would be a friendly gesture to let him know before closing.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:31:06 AM EDT
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Our home inspector ran the dishwasher a full cycle on high during the inspection to test it. Would that be enough to cause the sewer drain to back up? I would want to know that a house I was buying had problems, but I don't know the best way to go about relaying that information... No your talking 10 gallons of water maybe. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 9:57:27 AM EDT
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On the other hand... if the buyer is going to be your neighbor, you have to live with him. Maybe it would be a friendly gesture to let him know before closing. I no longer live next door, we moved back in April. As others pointed out, I don't believe an inspection will catch this. I do understand that as a foreclosure, it will be sold as-is but I feel that this is a serious issue that should be disclosed. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 10:05:56 AM EDT
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I guess OP has me on ignore.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 10:11:21 AM EDT
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No your talking 10 gallons of water maybe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our home inspector ran the dishwasher a full cycle on high during the inspection to test it. Would that be enough to cause the sewer drain to back up? I would want to know that a house I was buying had problems, but I don't know the best way to go about relaying that information... No your talking 10 gallons of water maybe. Not even... a dishwasher uses way less water than doing them by hand. They are required to use 5.8 gallons or less per cycle. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 10:15:19 AM EDT
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Absolutely.
I'd be doing whatever I needed to make sure someone didn't get screwed. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 10:17:10 AM EDT
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I guess OP has me on ignore. Nope, what's up? |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 10:50:18 AM EDT
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I'm not sure there's any real wrongdoing. The previous owner wouldn't have any motivation (or need) to inform the bank that there's a problem, and when the bank repossessed the home they wouldn't have any knowledge of the problem. The current "owner" is the bank and whatever realty company they're working with wouldn't have any idea about the problem. The only one who did know was the previous owner (or his wife) who had no reason or motivation to bring it up during the foreclosure process (or at least not that I'm aware of).
I would call the realty company and let them know your concerns. That's all you can do. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:21:46 AM EDT
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Not your circus, not your monkeys. Foreclosures are generally bought as-is. A sewage flood in the basement should be fairly obvious during an inspection/showing.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 1:38:45 PM EDT
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Nope, what's up? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess OP has me on ignore. Nope, what's up? See my reply above. You can get an inspection for under $375. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 1:39:12 PM EDT
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Absolutely. I'd be doing whatever I needed to make sure someone didn't get screwed. Huge +1 |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 1:45:22 PM EDT
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Pretty sure the home owner has an obligation to disclose. If they lie and say they didn't know then the buyer is screwed unless they can prove the seller knew of the problem. If you contact the sellers agent it becomes his problem too as he also can lie, but the owner may just fire him You could wait until the house is sold and knock at the door but then you may end up having to testify in court or at a deposition. This is how it works here. If the seller knows, he must disclose. However, isn't the seller the bank, who legitimately may not know? Personally, I'd write a letter to the listing agent informing them of the problem and telling him to inform the seller. I wouldn't sleep well knowing that I let my neighbor get screwed to the tune of five figures. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 1:54:41 PM EDT
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I just read the FBI link. Dude sounds like a real piece of work.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 1:58:18 PM EDT
[#33]
I wish I had that much free time
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:00:34 PM EDT
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Mind your own business.
If it's as bad as you say, the new buyers will see the poop stains in the basement. Unless the house is a mile from a sewage line, it won't cost $12k to put a new line in. How do you know that the owner didn't get someone else to snake/clear the line? If I had a sewage problem, I'd a call a real plumber, not Roto-Rooter. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:37:58 PM EDT
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I just read the FBI link. Dude sounds like a real piece of work. Pretty decent guy when dealing face to face. We couldn't believe that shit when we found out. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:43:45 PM EDT
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Lol $12,000 someone was going to make about 10,000 profit that day.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:08:59 PM EDT
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12k dollars, huh? Is this house hundreds of feet from the road? This. When roots got in mine, the plumber ran a sensor in to the site of the clog and located it in the yard. $700 later I had a working sewer feed again. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:18:04 PM EDT
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That is what an inspection is for. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:23:20 PM EDT
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This. When roots got in mine, the plumber ran a sensor in to the site of the clog and located it in the yard. $700 later I had a working sewer feed again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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12k dollars, huh? Is this house hundreds of feet from the road? This. When roots got in mine, the plumber ran a sensor in to the site of the clog and located it in the yard. $700 later I had a working sewer feed again. The plumber guy that came to the house had explained that the pipe had actually collapsed, as his snake/auger was pulling out dirt with the roots. Landlord lady was informed that they are not able to determine where between the house and the street the pipe failed, so they would have to dig up the entire yard. Front of the house to the street is about 40 feet. I'm not a plumber, so take it for what you will. Now I'm wondering if that issue could have been resolved much sooner and cheaper than before, and we would not have had to abruptly move out in winter.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:26:38 PM EDT
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I would stay out of it completely.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:32:50 PM EDT
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That is what an inspection is for. yep |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:34:19 PM EDT
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The plumber guy that came to the house had explained that the pipe had actually collapsed, as his snake/auger was pulling out dirt with the roots. Landlord lady was informed that they are not able to determine where between the house and the street the pipe failed, so they would have to dig up the entire yard. Front of the house to the street is about 40 feet. I'm not a plumber, so take it for what you will. Now I'm wondering if that issue could have been resolved much sooner and cheaper than before, and we would not have had to abruptly move out in winter.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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12k dollars, huh? Is this house hundreds of feet from the road? This. When roots got in mine, the plumber ran a sensor in to the site of the clog and located it in the yard. $700 later I had a working sewer feed again. The plumber guy that came to the house had explained that the pipe had actually collapsed, as his snake/auger was pulling out dirt with the roots. Landlord lady was informed that they are not able to determine where between the house and the street the pipe failed, so they would have to dig up the entire yard. Front of the house to the street is about 40 feet. I'm not a plumber, so take it for what you will. Now I'm wondering if that issue could have been resolved much sooner and cheaper than before, and we would not have had to abruptly move out in winter.40 feet of pipe, that's about $100. Excavator rental $350. Plumber and helper for a day $1000. New grass $100. $12000, lol. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 3:36:02 PM EDT
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40 feet of pipe, that's about $100. Excavator rental $350. Plumber and helper for a day $1000. New grass $100. $12000, lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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12k dollars, huh? Is this house hundreds of feet from the road? This. When roots got in mine, the plumber ran a sensor in to the site of the clog and located it in the yard. $700 later I had a working sewer feed again. The plumber guy that came to the house had explained that the pipe had actually collapsed, as his snake/auger was pulling out dirt with the roots. Landlord lady was informed that they are not able to determine where between the house and the street the pipe failed, so they would have to dig up the entire yard. Front of the house to the street is about 40 feet. I'm not a plumber, so take it for what you will. Now I'm wondering if that issue could have been resolved much sooner and cheaper than before, and we would not have had to abruptly move out in winter.40 feet of pipe, that's about $100. Excavator rental $350. Plumber and helper for a day $1000. New grass $100. $12000, lol. Wow. That's....well that's certainly interesting. I guess that just goes well with the whole level of fuckery we encountered living there. |
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