Apparently Congress quietly ended the ban on Medical MJ

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Apparently Congress quietly ended the ban on Medical MJ

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:18:03 PM EDT

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-medical-pot-20141216-story.html

The bill's passage over the weekend marks the first time Congress has approved nationally significant legislation backed by legalization advocates. It brings almost to a close two decades of tension between the states and Washington over medical use of marijuana.

Under the provision, states where medical pot is legal would no longer need to worry about federal drug agents raiding retail operations. Agents would be prohibited from doing so.

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"This is a victory for so many," said the measure's coauthor, Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of Costa Mesa. The measure's approval, he said, represents "the first time in decades that the federal government has curtailed its oppressive prohibition of marijuana."

By now, 32 states and the District of Columbia have legalized pot or its ingredients to treat ailments, a movement that began in the 1990s. Even back then, some states had been approving broader decriminalization measures for two decades.

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Posted: 8/31/2015 2:18:25 PM EDT

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Wonder if they are making a play for a larger voter base

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:19:55 PM EDT

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Well, that's big news...

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:20:04 PM EDT

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That is what they usually do.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:21:51 PM EDT

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But does it do anything to protect users and their gun rights? thats the question...

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:26:26 PM EDT

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One would think so. If you have a legitimate prescription from a state licensed doctor.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:28:42 PM EDT

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Philip Morris Inc , is all for it.

See the politicians play for pay.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:29:51 PM EDT

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One would think so. If you have a legitimate prescription from a state licensed doctor.

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One would think so. If you have a legitimate prescription from a state licensed doctor.

I have been told that currently a med card in AK is good to go for guns on the state level, but still violates fed law..not sure if true, but makes sense considering feds rule..this legislation would need a specific disqualified I think to allow med users to retain gun rights...

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:30:46 PM EDT

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so, now can the states still ban medical MJ or do they have to allow it now?

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:31:08 PM EDT

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Perhaps. Prohibition wasn't too popular the first time around either, and undermined the idea of other laws being valid, as well.

I have to say, in the nine or so month since this article was posted not a lot has changed. Why bring it up now?

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:32:24 PM EDT

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Just kidding of course.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:34:11 PM EDT

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No

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:34:39 PM EDT

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I have been told that currently a med card in AK is good to go for guns on the state level, but still violates fed law..not sure if true, but makes sense considering feds rule..this legislation would need a specific disqualified I think to allow med users to retain gun rights...

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One would think so. If you have a legitimate prescription from a state licensed doctor.

I have been told that currently a med card in AK is good to go for guns on the state level, but still violates fed law..not sure if true, but makes sense considering feds rule..this legislation would need a specific disqualified I think to allow med users to retain gun rights...

As long as it's schedule 1 it has "no legitimate medical use" AFAIK, prescriptions don't mean jack shit so I would think federal charges for guns + MJ are possible.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:34:44 PM EDT

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so, now can the states still ban medical MJ or do they have to allow it now?

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Still up to the states.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:34:57 PM EDT

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I am confused. Since the date on the article is 12/16/2014 is this a serious thread?

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:36:41 PM EDT

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I am confused. Since the date on the article is 12/16/2014 is this a serious thread?

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This is old news.

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:38:01 PM EDT

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No

That would be my guess too.....

Only reason I even mentioned it is it was suggested as a possible help for me for the 2.5 year headache I have endured...but being against illicit drug use it won't be tried by me.....

Posted: 8/31/2015 2:39:41 PM EDT

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Anyone got a link to the actual bill/language? Seems like it's another one of those "we're not paying for enforcement" deals where it's still technically illegal.

ETA - Nevermind, covered above, old article.

Posted: 8/31/2015 5:54:54 PM EDT

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I have been told that currently a med card in AK is good to go for guns on the state level, but still violates fed law..not sure if true, but makes sense considering feds rule..this legislation would need a specific disqualified I think to allow med users to retain gun rights...

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Quoted: But does it do anything to protect users and their gun rights? thats the question...

One would think so. If you have a legitimate prescription from a state licensed doctor.

I have been told that currently a med card in AK is good to go for guns on the state level, but still violates fed law..not sure if true, but makes sense considering feds rule..this legislation would need a specific disqualified I think to allow med users to retain gun rights...

Currently if you are a MMJ user and you complete a 4473, you either are lying on question 11e or you are not getting approved
This seems like it would make that a moot point. Wonder if there will be an ATF update sent out on this

Posted: 8/31/2015 5:55:23 PM EDT

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Perhaps. Prohibition wasn't too popular the first time around either, and undermined the idea of other laws being valid, as well.

I have to say, in the nine or so month since this article was posted not a lot has changed. Why bring it up now?

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Wonder if they are making a play for a larger voter base

Perhaps. Prohibition wasn't too popular the first time around either, and undermined the idea of other laws being valid, as well.

I have to say, in the nine or so month since this article was posted not a lot has changed. Why bring it up now?

Just saw it posted on a news site

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:42:33 AM EDT

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This seems like it would make that a moot point. Wonder if there will be an ATF update sent out on this

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11e is only asking if one is an unlawful user of or addicted to. As long as you have a prescription in a state where such is legal, and you're not addicted to it, you're not lying.

Posted: 9/1/2015 2:50:05 AM EDT

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11e is only asking if one is an unlawful user of or addicted to. As long as you have a prescription in a state where such is legal, and you're not addicted to it, you're not lying.

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Quoted: Currently if you are a MMJ user and you complete a 4473, you either are lying on question 11e or you are not getting approved
This seems like it would make that a moot point. Wonder if there will be an ATF update sent out on this

11e is only asking if one is an unlawful user of or addicted to. As long as you have a prescription in a state where such is legal, and you're not addicted to it, you're not lying.

Hmmm, somebody should write a letter asking for clarification.

Posted: 9/1/2015 3:04:04 AM EDT

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Hmmm, somebody should write a letter asking for clarification.

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Quoted: Currently if you are a MMJ user and you complete a 4473, you either are lying on question 11e or you are not getting approved
This seems like it would make that a moot point. Wonder if there will be an ATF update sent out on this

11e is only asking if one is an unlawful user of or addicted to. As long as you have a prescription in a state where such is legal, and you're not addicted to it, you're not lying.

Hmmm, somebody should write a letter asking for clarification.

Good call. Do we have anyone with any experience sending them hamfisted letters that would be willing to check in on that for us?

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