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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:01:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:02:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:03:13 AM EDT
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Who says there's never a cop around when you need one
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:05:04 AM EDT
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:06:47 AM EDT
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And then, after 10 minutes, they strip search the already naked woman?
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:07:35 AM EDT
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Holy shit. I look forward to seeing this #notdefended
"Stop (expletive) crying and take care of your (expletive) kids," she claimed one officer told her. She said a female officer later frisked her even though she was naked. Ten minutes passed before she was allowed to cover herself up, she added. In an affidavit, Trooper Nicholas E. Nason said a confidential informant told him the suspect had been staying in the apartment. He wrote that police had successfully raided the apartment last September, finding drugs.
Records showed police had arrested the man the SWAT team was looking for, who was a previous tenant at the apartment, at a different address on Aug. 6, the newspaper reported. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:08:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:10:18 AM EDT
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This thread is going to go places.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:10:25 AM EDT
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. thing is, this won't receive the massive attention it should get. The news media is more interested in publicizing LEO shootings killings of street thugs, single cigarette sellers, and criminals with guns, generally anyone who will not submit to lawful police orders. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:11:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:16:07 AM EDT
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Isolated incident. Map of "isolated incidents." http://www.cato.org/raidmap |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:18:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:21:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryYes...I realize that. I figured the map might be interesting anyway. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:39:55 AM EDT
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23-year-old Mom schtooping her boyfriend, and running around nekkid, while her kids are in the apartment. And the po-po bust down her door, looking for a previous boyfriend.
Sounds like the po-po busting the door down is the least of her problems. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:43:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryAnd it quit being funny a long time ago. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:44:14 AM EDT
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23-year-old Mom schtooping her boyfriend, and running around nekkid, while her kids are in the apartment. And the po-po bust down her door, looking for a previous boyfriend. Sounds like the po-po busting the door down is the least of her problems. Blaming the victim for the police that take a CI's word on where a guy sitting in jail is in only 13 posts. That's impressive. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:46:49 AM EDT
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23-year-old Mom schtooping her boyfriend, and running around nekkid, while her kids are in the apartment. And the po-po bust down her door, looking for a previous boyfriend. Sounds like the po-po busting the door down is the least of her problems. lol |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 10:53:32 AM EDT
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10 minutes? I would hope she's attractive to stare at her that long.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:00:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:07:47 AM EDT
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And then, after 10 minutes, they strip search the already naked woman? Gotta be thorough.  
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:08:54 AM EDT
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Confidential Informants should be illegal to use for warrants . A whole bunch of cops and a judge need to go to jail and be personally liable in civil court. Qualified Immunity needs to be greatly reigned in if not fully revoked.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:10:46 AM EDT
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Confidential Informants should be illegal to use for warrants . A whole bunch of cops and a judge need to go to jail and be personally liable in civil court. Qualified Immunity needs to be greatly reigned in if not fully revoked. But CIs are never used as the sole justification for warrants. 
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:12:49 AM EDT
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Blaming the victim for the police that take a CI's word on where a guy sitting in jail is in only 13 posts. That's impressive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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23-year-old Mom schtooping her boyfriend, and running around nekkid, while her kids are in the apartment. And the po-po bust down her door, looking for a previous boyfriend. Sounds like the po-po busting the door down is the least of her problems. Blaming the victim for the police that take a CI's word on where a guy sitting in jail is in only 13 posts. That's impressive. But very predictable. Thin blue line and all that. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:16:10 AM EDT
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But CIs are never used as the sole justification for warrants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Confidential Informants should be illegal to use for warrants . A whole bunch of cops and a judge need to go to jail and be personally liable in civil court. Qualified Immunity needs to be greatly reigned in if not fully revoked. But CIs are never used as the sole justification for warrants. If they knew, without a doubt, they would be charged and sued out of existence it would stop. I hope we can use the current momentum to get some big changes made. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:17:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:19:23 AM EDT
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There really is no excuse for getting it wrong. Raids like that are dangerous for everybody involved and there should not be any mistakes about crashing the wrong door.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:22:02 AM EDT
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There really is no excuse for getting it wrong. Raids like that are dangerous for everybody involved and there should not be any mistakes about crashing the wrong door. Be prepared to be told that this isn't a wrong door search. They hit right where they wanted, and even then it's not the team's fault. It's probably the judge's that signed the warrant. Everyone else is just an innocent victim here, except for the victim. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:22:14 AM EDT
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She should have known she could get raided living at that house and should always wear clothes.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:23:04 AM EDT
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Female cop frisking a naked woman?
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:24:27 AM EDT
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Be prepared to be told that this isn't a wrong door search. They hit right where they wanted, and even then it's not the team's fault. It's probably the judge's that signed the warrant. Everyone else is just an innocent victim here, except for the victim. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There really is no excuse for getting it wrong. Raids like that are dangerous for everybody involved and there should not be any mistakes about crashing the wrong door. Be prepared to be told that this isn't a wrong door search. They hit right where they wanted, and even then it's not the team's fault. It's probably the judge's that signed the warrant. Everyone else is just an innocent victim here, except for the victim. As another poster pointed out. She was naked, and probably had sex with her boyfriend. That's not harem, good raid! |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:27:21 AM EDT
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10 minutes? Surprised a cop lasted that long.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:29:52 AM EDT
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Naked woman just got a good days pay!
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:30:30 AM EDT
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District Attorney Joseph Early said that state police acted on the "best intelligence" available — a search warrant filed by a trooper who said a trusted source told him that the intended suspect, "Mr. Jackson," resided at the apartment.
... Records showed police had arrested the man the SWAT team was looking for, who was a previous tenant at the apartment, at a different address on Aug. 6, the newspaper reported. lol |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:35:10 AM EDT
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District Attorney Joseph Early said that state police acted on the "best intelligence" available — a search warrant filed by a trooper who said a trusted source told him that the intended suspect, "Mr. Jackson," resided at the apartment.
... Records showed police had arrested the man the SWAT team was looking for, who was a previous tenant at the apartment, at a different address on Aug. 6, the newspaper reported. lol SSDD |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:38:11 AM EDT
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Records showed police had arrested the man the SWAT team was looking for, who was a previous tenant at the apartment, at a different address on Aug. 6, the newspaper reported. lol 
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:40:25 AM EDT
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Improving public relations, LEO-style...
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:40:58 AM EDT
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Who says there's never a cop around when you need one He's not the one you're hoping for. 
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:46:03 AM EDT
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In before the TBL.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:46:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:48:03 AM EDT
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Isolated incident?
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Posted: 8/23/2015 11:49:21 AM EDT
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:24:24 PM EDT
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Records showed police had arrested the man the SWAT team was looking for, who was a previous tenant at the apartment, at a different address on Aug. 6, the newspaper reported. lol http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/GeorgiaSheriff_zpsepjaexlb.jpg Gotta get them dopers Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:34:24 PM EDT
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The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. Are the people on SWAT teams policemen or robotic door kicking machines? The newspaper figured out the guy they were looking for had already been picked up... why couldn't the cops? Or more importantly, why wouldn't the cops doing the door-kicking fear the outcome of getting it wrong enough to do even a cursory check for previous arrests like the newspaper did? |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:35:59 PM EDT
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Are the people on SWAT teams policemen or robotic door kicking machines? The newspaper figured out the guy they were looking for had already been picked up... why couldn't the cops? Or more importantly, why wouldn't the cops doing the door-kicking fear the outcome of getting it wrong enough to do even a cursory check for previous arrests like the newspaper did? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. Are the people on SWAT teams policemen or robotic door kicking machines? The newspaper figured out the guy they were looking for had already been picked up... why couldn't the cops? Or more importantly, why wouldn't the cops doing the door-kicking fear the outcome of getting it wrong enough to do even a cursory check for previous arrests like the newspaper did? SWAT doesn't do any of that, it isn't there job. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:37:12 PM EDT
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23-year-old Mom schtooping her boyfriend, and running around nekkid, while her kids are in the apartment. And the po-po bust down her door, looking for a previous boyfriend. Sounds like the po-po busting the door down is the least of her problems. Are you the police's defense attorney? "Try to make the jury dislike the victim more than the defendant" |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:38:30 PM EDT
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SWAT doesn't do any of that, it isn't there job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. Are the people on SWAT teams policemen or robotic door kicking machines? The newspaper figured out the guy they were looking for had already been picked up... why couldn't the cops? Or more importantly, why wouldn't the cops doing the door-kicking fear the outcome of getting it wrong enough to do even a cursory check for previous arrests like the newspaper did? SWAT doesn't do any of that, it isn't there job. So, robotic door kicking machines, not people. Got it. I bet if they were held personally accountable for kicking the wrong doors, they would magically turn into people again.
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:40:11 PM EDT
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So, robotic door kicking machines, not people. Got it. I bet if they were held personally accountable for kicking the wrong doors, they would magically turn into people again. Do they hang the pilots for dropping a bomb on a building full of civilians when they were told it wasn't containing said civilians? |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:41:52 PM EDT
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SWAT doesn't do any of that, it isn't there job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This botched gun raid, without any doubt, is about an innocent family with two children — one disabled — who were utterly terrorized and abused as a result of the grossly reckless conduct exhibited by (police)," Pineiro said. Pretty much this. The SWAT guys should beat the living shit out of the Detective that obtained the search warrant. Are the people on SWAT teams policemen or robotic door kicking machines? The newspaper figured out the guy they were looking for had already been picked up... why couldn't the cops? Or more importantly, why wouldn't the cops doing the door-kicking fear the outcome of getting it wrong enough to do even a cursory check for previous arrests like the newspaper did? SWAT doesn't do any of that, it isn't there job. Yep, they're just following orders. Not their problem. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:44:27 PM EDT
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Do they hang the pilots for dropping a bomb full of civilians when they were told it wasn't containing said civilians? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, robotic door kicking machines, not people. Got it. I bet if they were held personally accountable for kicking the wrong doors, they would magically turn into people again. Do they hang the pilots for dropping a bomb full of civilians when they were told it wasn't containing said civilians? I'm not even sure what you were trying to say, so I'm not sure if it's a valid analogy. Regardless, the analogy is unnecessary in this case. We have a pretty simple situation. Cops with guns are serving a search warrant based on the word of a third party and on basically no investigation on their part. Even a cursory amount of investigation probably would have averted the error. But hey, they can't be expected to do investigation, right? It's not their job. They're policemen. Not the freakin hardy boys. |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they hang the pilots for dropping a bomb full of civilians when they were told it wasn't containing said civilians? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, robotic door kicking machines, not people. Got it. I bet if they were held personally accountable for kicking the wrong doors, they would magically turn into people again. Do they hang the pilots for dropping a bomb full of civilians when they were told it wasn't containing said civilians?  |
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