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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:19:39 PM EDT
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Nah. Just maybe in winter.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:25:48 PM EDT
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I run Howes in my 6.fo year round
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:31:00 PM EDT
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I run Howes in my 6.fo year round Would you say additive is a must with LSDF? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:32:04 PM EDT
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Run in every tank! I've used power service for 15 years in the same truck, water is the problem. Diesel loves to suck up water, the common rail in your cummins is the same system as a duramax, Bosch injectors running 30,000 psi do not like water or particulate.
Run in every tank. Buy fuel from a high volume station when you can. Change filters regularly. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:32:18 PM EDT
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I have used Stanadyne performance formula in a 12 valve Cummins, a 24 valve Cummins and a Kubota tractor for over 10 years. No complaints. MBanning
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:33:15 PM EDT
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Run in every tank! I've used power service for 15 years in the same truck, water is the problem. Diesel loves to suck up water, the common rail in your cummins is the same system as a duramax, Bosch injectors running 30,000 psi do not like water or particulate. Run in every tank. Buy fuel from a high volume station when you can. What additives would you recommend? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:35:03 PM EDT
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Stanadyne. Makes my Duramax smooth as butter and more responsive.
Honestly, just run an additive, anything you can find for a good price. Anything is better than the crap they sell us for diesel now. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What additives would you recommend? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Run in every tank! I've used power service for 15 years in the same truck, water is the problem. Diesel loves to suck up water, the common rail in your cummins is the same system as a duramax, Bosch injectors running 30,000 psi do not like water or particulate. Run in every tank. Buy fuel from a high volume station when you can. What additives would you recommend? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:37:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:38:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:38:49 PM EDT
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A quart of cheap ATF in the 08 at every fill up.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:39:51 PM EDT
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POWER SERVICE....see first line in my response....it's a brand, white bottle for cold temps, grey bottle for summer, red bottle in case the filters wax in very cold temps, add directly to filter and tank. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Run in every tank! I've used power service for 15 years in the same truck, water is the problem. Diesel loves to suck up water, the common rail in your cummins is the same system as a duramax, Bosch injectors running 30,000 psi do not like water or particulate. Run in every tank. Buy fuel from a high volume station when you can. What additives would you recommend? This. Worked for me in my 04.5 Cummins. ETA: And '82 6.2L. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stanadyne. Makes my Duramax smooth as butter and more responsive. Honestly, just run an additive, anything you can find for a good price. Anything is better than the crap they sell us for diesel now. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:41:14 PM EDT
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Opti Lube was top-rated in head to head testing. I use it in my turbo diesel Bobcat.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:42:21 PM EDT
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Yeah stanadyne is the factory recommendation, it's a demulsifier PS is an emulsifier(sp?) I have seen what free water does in a tank of diesel...it grows all kinds of fun bugs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stanadyne. Makes my Duramax smooth as butter and more responsive. Honestly, just run an additive, anything you can find for a good price. Anything is better than the crap they sell us for diesel now. Power Service is neither. Read their website. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A quart of cheap ATF in the 08 at every fill up. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:45:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Power Service is neither. Read their website. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stanadyne. Makes my Duramax smooth as butter and more responsive. Honestly, just run an additive, anything you can find for a good price. Anything is better than the crap they sell us for diesel now. Power Service is neither. Read their website. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:47:15 PM EDT
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Cummins engineer checking in. No additives needed if your are keeping up with filter changes and draining water from filter. Some places in the US do have some sope issues, so an additive to deal with soap deposits could be used. Too many people have done more harm than good putting stuff that doesnt belong in thier fuel tank. If we designed the engine to need additives it would be in the manual.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:47:20 PM EDT
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Yea I'm over at DieselPlace as well. PS has opened up lately with all the new competition around. If I cant find Stanadyne, I run DK 50/50 with 2 cycle. Good stuff.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:49:00 PM EDT
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What does the manufacturer recommend? If nothing then it isn't needed. Power Service is crap. Snake oil.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:50:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I add 1oz per gal. Tcw3 outboard oil in my 7.3 psd 6.2L m1008 for years. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:50:42 PM EDT
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LMAO.
Asking which additive is best is like 9mm vs 45. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:52:03 PM EDT
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I run Opti-Lube products in my 6.0. I do believe ULSD fuel to be subpar by even LSD fuel standards.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:54:17 PM EDT
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What does the manufacturer recommend? If nothing then it isn't needed. Power Service is crap. Snake oil. I think Stanadyne was recommended by GM if the consumer insisted on an additive. Bosch supplies fuel system parts for all 3 trucks. Stanadyne used to / still does make injectors and fuel pumps. They know a thing or two. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:54:26 PM EDT
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I've heard OTR drivers swear by cheap ATF...I worry about the detergent in ATF...but I'll do two stroke when I remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A quart of cheap ATF in the 08 at every fill up. Cheap is the key. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:54:48 PM EDT
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2000 7.3 F250 owner here.I bought this truck brand new and have never added anything.200,000 miles later and still kicking ass.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:56:12 PM EDT
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Ive tried two stroke oil and opti lube in my 7.3.
Only thing I ever noticed was a deeper hole in my wallet so I stopped. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:57:12 PM EDT
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Should I be adding stuff to my tanks when I fill up? 2012 f350 and 2008 Ram 2500. http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/fuel-additives/diesel/diesel-injector-clean/?code=ADFPCN-EA |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:59:35 PM EDT
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What additives would you recommend? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Run in every tank! I've used power service for 15 years in the same truck, water is the problem. Diesel loves to suck up water, the common rail in your cummins is the same system as a duramax, Bosch injectors running 30,000 psi do not like water or particulate. Run in every tank. Buy fuel from a high volume station when you can. What additives would you recommend? the duramax forum has run a new lab test thingies. the gray bottle power service had the best results. I run it in every tank |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2000 7.3 F250 owner here.I bought this truck brand new and have never added anything.200,000 miles later and still kicking ass. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:01:22 PM EDT
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My only contribution to this thread is that Stanadyne should know a thing or two about fucked up Diesel fuel systems.
Ran a fleet of 300,000+ mile Cummins trucks with no additive and no problems. Currently running a 275,000 mile dirtymax with no additive and no problems. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cummins engineer checking in. No additives needed if your are keeping up with filter changes and draining water from filter. Some places in the US do have some sope issues, so an additive to deal with soap deposits could be used. Too many people have done more harm than good putting stuff that doesnt belong in thier fuel tank. If we designed the engine to need additives it would be in the manual. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:06:33 PM EDT
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No one has recommended BIO-Diesel yet?
Great lubricity, and that is the one thing that ULSD really needs. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:09:05 PM EDT
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I run Opti-Lube products in my 6.0. I do believe ULSD fuel to be subpar by even LSD fuel standards. this only i have a cummins |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one has recommended BIO-Diesel yet? Great lubricity, and that is the one thing that ULSD really needs. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:12:08 PM EDT
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http://www.hotshotsecret.com/shop/everyday-diesel-treatment/
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:15:51 PM EDT
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Waste of money.
Except for anti gell in winter. Anyone running tranny fluid or motor oil is fucking up as they are designed to resist burning off. Worst looking injectors or pistons come out of motors running oils not designed to be used as fuel. Two stroke is the best choice if you have to. I got 250k miles out of a VP44 without any additives, and it is probably the least reliable injection pump ever. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:54:36 PM EDT
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Waste of money. Except for anti gell in winter. Anyone running tranny fluid or motor oil is fucking up as they are designed to resist burning off. Worst looking injectors or pistons come out of motors running oils not designed to be used as fuel. Two stroke is the best choice if you have to. I got 250k miles out of a VP44 without any additives, and it is probably the least reliable injection pump ever. And if you use 2-stroke, make sure it's not red, in the event you get your tank dipped by highway patrol... But yeah, I used winter power service during severe cold snaps (-15 or worse) to help ward off gelling. That was it. Traded off Duramax wih 230k miles. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:57:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy father bought a '83 MB 300SD in 1984. When he bought it, the mechanic in the dealership recommended putting a couple of ounces of outboard oil in the tank with every fillup. He gave that car to me a few years ago and it now has 670k on the clock. I don't know if the outboard oil has been a "secret" to the longevity of that engine, but I'll be damned if I'm going to break the habit now! :) |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:16:23 PM EDT
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Bio is a gelling bitch up here in the frozen north. Summer time would be ok, I've seen b10 before but it's a rare sight Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one has recommended BIO-Diesel yet? Great lubricity, and that is the one thing that ULSD really needs. Yes, cold temps are an issue with Bio 
We have B5 mandated, so I don't have to add any 
A warm (fuggin' HOT!!) climate is good for a few things. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:19:00 PM EDT
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Vast majority of fuel additives in the US are made by a single company.
I know this. Because my trucks haul it in bulk. Name a major brand. They either make it, or make the base components for it. Then I haul it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:19:54 PM EDT
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Everyone with a diesel should be adding super tech 2 stroke
Stanadyne is the best though expensive as hell. ULSD sucks |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:21:58 PM EDT
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Everyone with a diesel should be adding super tech 2 strokeStanadyne is the best though expensive as hell. ULSD sucks Do that in a post 2008 engine and get a plugged dpf. You'll be paying for it. Terrible advice. Diesel engines aren't 6v71s anymore that burn a gallon a day. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:29:09 PM EDT
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I use cetane booster from Ford
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:33:55 PM EDT
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Do that in a post 2008 engine and get a plugged dpf. You'll be paying for it. Terrible advice. Diesel engines aren't 6v71s anymore that burn a gallon a day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone with a diesel should be adding super tech 2 strokeStanadyne is the best though expensive as hell. ULSD sucks Do that in a post 2008 engine and get a plugged dpf. You'll be paying for it. Terrible advice. Diesel engines aren't 6v71s anymore that burn a gallon a day. DPF is definitely going to clog no matter what you do. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:36:50 PM EDT
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DPF is definitely going to clog no matter what you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone with a diesel should be adding super tech 2 strokeStanadyne is the best though expensive as hell. ULSD sucks Do that in a post 2008 engine and get a plugged dpf. You'll be paying for it. Terrible advice. Diesel engines aren't 6v71s anymore that burn a gallon a day. DPF is definitely going to clog no matter what you do. Diesels aren't oil burners any more. Fuel mapping has leaned them out. Adding more oil, adds more ash. Ash builds up in the dpf faster, which leads to more regens, which means to a faster replacement of a dpf. Fuel additives has completely changed in the last 3-4 years and is continuing to change as engines and emissions standards change. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:46:16 PM EDT
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Optilube has tested out the best several times. I only run it in the winter with lighter fuel. Mostly unnecessary imo.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:51:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:58:33 PM EDT
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With all these high priced additives people are running along with the high price for fuel...how is a diesel more economical to run.
 .it sounds like they won't live without being petted and babied.
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