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Hibbs says that the $15-an-hour minimum wage will require a staggering $80,000 in extra revenue annually. "I was appalled!” he says. "My jaw dropped. Eighty-thousand a year! I didn’t know that. I thought we were talking a small amount of money, something I could absorb.”
Hibbs is not the first person to encounter this problem. On February 1, San Francisco’s renowned science-fiction bookstore Borderlands Books published the following on its website: Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in princip[le] and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco — Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage. Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417763/when-minimum-wage-hikes-hit-san-francisco-comic-book-store-ian-tuttle |
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So basically he/they support the thing that put them out of business. Fucking morons! Once again proof that liberalism is a mental disease!
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This is earily similar to the thread this morning about the owner of a different comic book/graphic novel store in San Fagcisco that was going around this morning...
...elections, consequences & all that... |
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Lol, liberals. SF is a cool place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. There's homeless people everywhere, many of them simply prefer doing drugs all day to being productive. That's their choice. No liberal policy gonna "fix" that.
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Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference.
Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. |
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California never learns.
Other than that: The second from the left. The lady with the finger monocle. She's welcome to stay at my place. |
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Fuck them with their socialist hammer and sickle. I am glad to see it backfiring, especially to supporters of this socialist idea. Fuck Seattle too, I hope the people who voted for this get the same ass raping. They deserve it.
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Why not scale min wage to the size of business? A compromise between those who want to eliminate it and those who want it to match cost of living index?
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Quoted: You may need to go to the eye doctor to get a monocle yourself... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: California never learns. Other than that: The second from the left. The lady with the finger monocle. She's welcome to stay at my place. You may need to go to the eye doctor to get a monocle yourself... |
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no no no no no - thats actually a sign in the swingers world. It means, "i like to look inside bumholes" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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California never learns. Other than that: The second from the left. The lady with the finger monocle. She's welcome to stay at my place. You may need to go to the eye doctor to get a monocle yourself... My vision is 20/20. I have 20/15 in one eye. Which eye does my bum hole monocle go in front of? Should I ask my doctor? |
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So basically he/they support the thing that put them out of business. Fucking morons! Once again proof that liberalism is a mental disease! View Quote That's because, like all liberals, they support that stuff for everyone BUT themselves. Taking everyone's else's money for "good" causes is great. Suddenly, it is a totally different story when it is your money. Funny how that works... |
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I'd say those people in SF can go climb a wall of dicks, but they might enjoy it.
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It is only a matter of time before the rest of us are required to pay a big fucking tax increase to bail out California.
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California never learns. Other than that: The second from the left. The lady with the finger monocle. She's welcome to stay at my place. I suppose having low standards has its advantages. lol Damn right. I see beautiful women everywhere. You guys are depriving yourselves of an awesome life by having these standards. Oh well, less competition for me. Everyday is a new adventure. |
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Businesses in San Jose, CA pay $10.15/hr minimum wage. Employees making that before the hike want their wages hiked as well.
Edit: Causing other issues Westfield Mall/ Valley Fait |
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So the stupid assed motherfuckers are just now figuring out that "living wage" laws are going to carry a hefty price tag?
Enjoy your twenty dollar Big Macs at McDonald's, dumb asses. I suppose telling them that "when you use artificial controls to compensate labor at a higher rate than the actual market value of that labor, all you do is create inflation" would be of no use because, well, they're idiots. |
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Quoted: $15/hr for this, and it's a double quarter pounder with cheese, no lettuce called for. http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/legear321/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-04/20150429_175338_zpsz9m1ureg.jpg View Quote I think I'd rather have a burger from a robot than most of the fast food workers I see anyway. |
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So what will happen to San Fran if all the comic book shops close up?
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California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that?
And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. |
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Nothing says let's encourage jobs and business like violent destructive riots and a $15/hr minimum wage.
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So what will happen to San Fran if all the comic book shops close up? View Quote No worries. A larger company with cash flow will start comic book stores. It would be as if Walmart or Best Buy start a comic store and it will look and feel as though it were a hole in the wall small business. The gap will be filled. |
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California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. View Quote No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. |
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No worries. A larger company with cash flow will start comic book stores. It would be as if Walmart or Best Buy start a comic store and it will look and feel as though it were a hole in the wall small business. The gap will be filled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So what will happen to San Fran if all the comic book shops close up? No worries. A larger company with cash flow will start comic book stores. It would be as if Walmart or Best Buy start a comic store and it will look and feel as though it were a hole in the wall small business. The gap will be filled. So they will lose a strong part of their hipster identity? |
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Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. View Quote I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. |
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Quoted: I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. |
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Quoted: No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. California tax money is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. |
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Quoted: LOL. California tax money Silicon Valley is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. California tax money Silicon Valley is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. |
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Like I said, once Silicon Valley finds a better place to migrate to, game over for CA 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. There's plenty of places they could go now, but it seems they don't. I would also suggest that the primary factor that tanked Detroit isn't applicable in SF. |
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Quoted: There's plenty of places they could go now, but it seems they don't. I would also suggest that the primary factor that tanked Detroit isn't applicable in SF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. There's plenty of places they could go now, but it seems they don't. I would also suggest that the primary factor that tanked Detroit isn't applicable in SF. |
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Quoted: Like I said, once Silicon Valley finds a better place to migrate to, game over for CA 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. People who live thousands of miles away just cannot understand, sadly. That is what it is. |
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Quoted: Fixed, and SV will move someday, mark my words. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. California tax money Silicon Valley is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. |
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Droughts and continued BS from Sacramento will push them out eventually. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. There's plenty of places they could go now, but it seems they don't. I would also suggest that the primary factor that tanked Detroit isn't applicable in SF. The people that run SV also pretty much run Sacramento. I've spent enough time around ultra-wealthy coastal Democrats to understand that they simply don't think in ways conprehensible to flyover country middle class Americans. |
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Lol, liberals. SF is a cool place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. There's homeless people everywhere, many of them simply prefer doing drugs all day to being productive. That's their choice. No liberal policy gonna "fix" that. View Quote However, judging by the level of stupidity most libs operate at, I'll bet many of them actually thought the homeless bozos were going to get cleaned up and go to work. |
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Like I said, once Silicon Valley finds a better place to migrate to, game over for CA 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. Never going to happen. Sadly SV is a ingrained part of IT. Well.....it could happen...when CA slides into the ocean... |
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Quoted: Never going to happen. Sadly SV is a ingrained part of IT. Well.....it could happen...when CA slides into the ocean... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like Seattle, SF is already a very expensive city where only the elite, in general, can afford to live. Because of this dynamic that may not exist where some of you live, there will be minor hiccups, but it will get sorted out, and almost no one will notice any difference. Yes, some businesses will complain. Some may even decide to close down, but those businesses will be replaced, and very quickly, by businesses that can afford it. Everyone else will just adjust. No, that does not make it right, but it is what will happen. And, yes, you can quote me on this, all of you who live in Palukaville. I live in South Beach, a lot of people don't grasp how much money there is flowing through SF. 50 years ago, the motor city Detroit had one of the highest per-capita incomes in the world. Now look at it. Silicon Valley can exist anywhere, CA doesn't have a monopoly on nice weather and pretty scenery. Never going to happen. Sadly SV is a ingrained part of IT. Well.....it could happen...when CA slides into the ocean... |
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Friends thought I was nuts I turned down a 6 figure raise that would have required me to move to the bay area. Fuck that.
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. California tax money is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png |
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LOL. California tax money is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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California is what, the 5th largest economy in world or something like that? And that collection of mouth breathers in Sacramento are flushing it down the drain. It will be ugly when Cali finally collapses. Once Silicon Valley has had enough and moves on, it is game over. No worries. The American taxpayer will bail out California. Give it some time. California tax money is bailing out many other states that have negative federal tax receipts and has been for many decades. I am not a Californian. I am just correcting the misinformation you spew. It would take decades of negative CA tax receipts to overcome what CA has paid over the years. That is just truth. I live in a deep-blue state (Washington), too, with positive Federal tax receipts. Things do not totally suck here. That's why we have positive growth every year, sometimes in the double digits. People in states with net-negative Federal tax receipts and that folks also flee from can't relate. Ask yourselves, though: If things are so good where you live, why is there no positive population growth? People vote with their feet. Texans can probably relate, and because of a different state philosophy—proving that there is more than one way to skin the same cat, but also that if your state ain't skinning the cat, there is likely a reason, one that maybe you are not seeing. Assuming you are correct, I guess our best hope is that Kalifornicate breaks up and falls into the ocean and floats off to Russia or China. |
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" I’m hearing from a lot of customers, ‘I voted for that, and I didn’t realize it would affect you.’ " View Quote That's liberalism for you. |
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So basically he/they support the thing that put them out of business. Fucking morons! Once again proof that liberalism is a mental disease! View Quote It's a book store their days were already numbered anyways. No need to buy books anymore when digital copies are cheaper and more convieniant. Whether they supported it or not my thoughts are under 5 years till there are no more books stores pretty much at all. |
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