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Posted: 5/2/2015 12:44:38 AM EDT
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Do what?
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:23:26 AM EDT
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I voted 6-900 yards, but not with a 308..but with my 300RUM...I have gotten solid(dead)hits on 1 brown bear and 2 wolves at that distance in the past............
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:28:36 AM EDT
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Depending on the temp you can read the heat waves in the scope out to target.
Kinda hard to do at first then you get the hang of it. Can also see how trees are moving as well. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:40:57 AM EDT
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I voted 6-900 yards, but not with a 308..but with my 300RUM...I have gotten solid(dead)hits on 1 brown bear and 2 wolves at that distance in the past............ More bullet weight is better for heavier "target weight" on the other end of the muzzle. 
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:41:57 AM EDT
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Depending on the temp you can read the heat waves in the scope out to target. Kinda hard to do at first then you get the hang of it. Can also see how trees are moving as well. You are talking about heat mirage aren`t you? |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:42:45 AM EDT
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience.
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:45:10 AM EDT
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More bullet weight is better for heavier "target weight" on the other end of the muzzle.
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I voted 6-900 yards, but not with a 308..but with my 300RUM...I have gotten solid(dead)hits on 1 brown bear and 2 wolves at that distance in the past............ More bullet weight is better for heavier "target weight" on the other end of the muzzle.
LOL..the bear was 200 gr. barnes X bullets..the wolves, one was a 180 swift scirocco, the other a 165 barnes solid....
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:55:10 AM EDT
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:59:54 AM EDT
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Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? Replace heavier with higher BC. It's still a weird way to look at it. Wind is the most subjective piece of long-range shooting. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:06:01 AM EDT
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Set up a target at 100 yards with a 15 MPH cross wind. Shoot a .22lr then a .243 and tell me cartridge selection has nothing to do with it. 
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:14:47 AM EDT
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Replace heavier with higher BC. It's still a weird way to look at it. Wind is the most subjective piece of long-range shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? Replace heavier with higher BC. It's still a weird way to look at it. Wind is the most subjective piece of long-range shooting. Doesn`t a heavier bullet weight yield a higher BC? |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:17:50 AM EDT
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Set up a target at 100 yards with a 15 MPH cross wind. Shoot a .22lr then a .243 and tell me cartridge selection has nothing to do with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Set up a target at 100 yards with a 15 MPH cross wind. Shoot a .22lr then a .243 and tell me cartridge selection has nothing to do with it. Caliber has nothing to do with reading wind. Caliber selection has considerably more to do with mitigating the effect of an error in reading the wind. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:18:18 AM EDT
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I can agree with you are saying. Doesn`t a heavier bullet weight yield a higher BC? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? Replace heavier with higher BC. It's still a weird way to look at it. Wind is the most subjective piece of long-range shooting. I can agree with you are saying. Doesn`t a heavier bullet weight yield a higher BC? Not always. Compare the 6.5mm 142gr Sierra MatchKing to the .30 cal 175 MatchKing. Or getting even further up there, the .224" 80gr SMK to a 300 gr round nose. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:19:07 AM EDT
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Caliber has nothing to do with reading wind. Caliber selection has considerably more to do with mitigating the effect of an error in reading the wind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Set up a target at 100 yards with a 15 MPH cross wind. Shoot a .22lr then a .243 and tell me cartridge selection has nothing to do with it. Caliber has nothing to do with reading wind. Caliber selection has considerably more to do with mitigating the effect of an error in reading the wind. That's a good way to put it. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:23:43 AM EDT
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Caliber has nothing to do with reading wind. Caliber selection has considerably more to do with mitigating the effect of an error in reading the wind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Set up a target at 100 yards with a 15 MPH cross wind. Shoot a .22lr then a .243 and tell me cartridge selection has nothing to do with it. Caliber has nothing to do with reading wind. Caliber selection has considerably more to do with mitigating the effect of an error in reading the wind. Fair enough. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:32:23 AM EDT
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The premise of the OP is flawed. If you have a good idea of what the wind is doing along the flight path, it really doesn't matter what the velocity/direction is, or the round used. It is then just a matter of applying the appropriate correction to the optic, if you have good data for your chosen rifle.
A better question would be " How accurate can you make the call before sending a round downrange?" Or "What is the max range you can make an accurate call?" I usually have to correct after the first round personally, so I may be full of shit. 
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:53:42 AM EDT
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Not always. Compare the 6.5mm 142gr Sierra MatchKing to the .30 cal 175 MatchKing. Or getting even further up there, the .224" 80gr SMK to a 300 gr round nose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading the wind has nothing to do with cartridge selection and everything to do with your optics and experience. Hmmm............. I think it is a dual faceted formula. Farther out, better accuracy would be obtained in windier conditions, using a heavier projectile that could buck the wind. The heavier projectile also, would deliver more energy to the target. What do you think? Replace heavier with higher BC. It's still a weird way to look at it. Wind is the most subjective piece of long-range shooting. I can agree with you are saying. Doesn`t a heavier bullet weight yield a higher BC? Not always. Compare the 6.5mm 142gr Sierra MatchKing to the .30 cal 175 MatchKing. Or getting even further up there, the .224" 80gr SMK to a 300 gr round nose. So you are saying a lighter bullet is going to buck the wind better than a heavier bullet will? |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 3:02:06 AM EDT
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So you are saying a lighter bullet is going to buck the wind better than a heavier bullet will? Depending on the shape, yes. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 3:07:59 AM EDT
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Depending on the shape, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you are saying a lighter bullet is going to buck the wind better than a heavier bullet will? Depending on the shape, yes. Technically, wouldn't it be a bit of everything? bullet weight, velocity, BC, ability to judge conditions, knowledge of firearm/cartridge, condition/quality of firearm and shooters abilities? |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 3:08:40 AM EDT
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Technically, wouldn't it be a bit of everything? bullet weight, velocity, BC, ability to judge conditions, knowledge of firearm/cartridge, condition/quality of firearm and shooters abilities? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you are saying a lighter bullet is going to buck the wind better than a heavier bullet will? Depending on the shape, yes. Technically, wouldn't it be a bit of everything? bullet weight, velocity, BC, ability to judge conditions, knowledge of firearm/cartridge, condition/quality of firearm and shooters abilities? Correct. |
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