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Posted: 1/21/2015 1:49:13 AM EDT
from: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Appeals-Court-to-Hear-Arguments-on-Maryland-Gun-Control-Law-289185621.html A federal appeals court has set oral arguments over the constitutionality of a Maryland law banning 45 assault weapons and gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia scheduled arguments in the matter for March 24. In court papers filed Friday, gun-rights advocates say the law violates the Second Amendment and that a federal judge in Baltimore erred when she upheld the law last summer. Brian Frosh, Maryland's newly sworn-in attorney general and chief sponsor of the law while a state senator, said Monday that the law passes constitutional muster to protect public safety. "I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' The law bans 45 assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Maryland lawmakers approved the sweeping legislation in 2013 in response to the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The shooting left 20 children and six educators dead, and became a rallying point for gun-control efforts. (more at above link) |
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever.
SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. |
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"I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' View Quote Reminds me of Charles Schumer, 13 years before the DC v. Heller decision: "Like flat earth fanatics, Second Amendment fanatics just don't get it. Facts are facts. The earth is not flat. And Constitutional law is Constitutional law. The Second Amendment is not absolute. It does not guarantee the mythical individual right to bear arms we will hear argued for today. The gun lobby and its friends in Congress can line up professors of history and law from here to NRA headquarters and back. They can all swear what they think the Second Amendment means, and how many angels can dance on a pinhead. But the settled law is flatly against them." View Quote |
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Lol
The framers could have never imagined the Internet either, yet here we are... Actually, I'm sure they had a pretty good idea that firearms technology was evolving. |
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Quoted: Reminds me of Charles Schumer, 13 years before the DC v. Heller decision: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: "I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' Reminds me of Charles Schumer, 13 years before the DC v. Heller decision: "Like flat earth fanatics, Second Amendment fanatics just don't get it. Facts are facts. The earth is not flat. And Constitutional law is Constitutional law. The Second Amendment is not absolute. It does not guarantee the mythical individual right to bear arms we will hear argued for today. The gun lobby and its friends in Congress can line up professors of history and law from here to NRA headquarters and back. They can all swear what they think the Second Amendment means, and how many angels can dance on a pinhead. But the settled law is flatly against them." that actually makes me a little sick to my stomach reading that...
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever. SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. View Quote The sad reality is that SCOTUS has shown no willingness to take on the 2A issue again. |
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In MD good luck. You'd have better luck teaching them to drive.
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever. SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. View Quote I bet that alone could resuscitate our economy. |
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The sad reality is that SCOTUS has shown no willingness to take on the 2A issue again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever. SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. The sad reality is that SCOTUS has shown no willingness to take on the 2A issue again. Help Us, Justice Roberts, You’re Our Only Hope.... Really? Careful what you wish for. Quoted:
In MD good luck. You'd have better luck teaching them to drive. LOL.... |
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Mean while in the great state of MD I can still buy a stripped lower, ...........cray
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I think that as a general rule any law of any kind that has such a specific and arbitrary list is probably a steaming pile of shit.
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever. SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. View Quote Please remember that Roberts is compromised....... |
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from: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Appeals-Court-to-Hear-Arguments-on-Maryland-Gun-Control-Law-289185621.html A federal appeals court has set oral arguments over the constitutionality of a Maryland law banning 45 assault weapons and gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia scheduled arguments in the matter for March 24. In court papers filed Friday, gun-rights advocates say the law violates the Second Amendment and that a federal judge in Baltimore erred when she upheld the law last summer. Brian Frosh, Maryland's newly sworn-in attorney general and chief sponsor of the law while a state senator, said Monday that the law passes constitutional muster to protect public safety. "I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' The law bans 45 assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Maryland lawmakers approved the sweeping legislation in 2013 in response to the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The shooting left 20 children and six educators dead, and became a rallying point for gun-control efforts. (more at above link) View Quote Where again in the Constitution does it say anything about public safety? |
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I encourage everyone who lives in MD to leave, and try not to do business with firms located there. Cut off the statists' source of "revenue," taxes.
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Mean while in the great state of MD I can still buy a stripped lower, ...........cray What can you do with it? AR pistol or HBAR. AR standard profile barrel = baby killer HBAR = not baby killer |
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Quoted: AR pistol or HBAR. AR standard profile barrel = baby killer HBAR = not baby killer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mean while in the great state of MD I can still buy a stripped lower, ...........cray What can you do with it? AR pistol or HBAR. AR standard profile barrel = baby killer HBAR = not baby killer It's fo the chillren!
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I encourage everyone who lives in MD to leave, and try not to do business with firms located there. Cut off the statists' source of "revenue," taxes. View Quote Well, the source of the liberal power base income is the federal gov. Chop off PG and Montgomery county and MD likely goes solid R |
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I get so tired of seeing these drag on forever. SCOTUS needs to step up & rule that it is a guaranteed right that cannot be infringed in any way just like it is written. Make it settled law that any bans on firearms, ammo, magazines, or permit restrictions are unconstitutional so that the courts time & billions of taxpayer dollars are no longer wasted on this nonsense. View Quote They haven't had the opportunity to hear such a case yet. It will happen though. Give it time. |
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"I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' View Quote Then take them away from EVERY SINGLE government agent in Maryland, too. Surely they don't need them, either. |
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Where again in the Constitution does it say anything about public safety? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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from: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Appeals-Court-to-Hear-Arguments-on-Maryland-Gun-Control-Law-289185621.html A federal appeals court has set oral arguments over the constitutionality of a Maryland law banning 45 assault weapons and gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia scheduled arguments in the matter for March 24. In court papers filed Friday, gun-rights advocates say the law violates the Second Amendment and that a federal judge in Baltimore erred when she upheld the law last summer. Brian Frosh, Maryland's newly sworn-in attorney general and chief sponsor of the law while a state senator, said Monday that the law passes constitutional muster to protect public safety. "I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' The law bans 45 assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Maryland lawmakers approved the sweeping legislation in 2013 in response to the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The shooting left 20 children and six educators dead, and became a rallying point for gun-control efforts. (more at above link) Where again in the Constitution does it say anything about public safety? Well both intermediate and strict scrutiny review include a review of a state's reasons for infringing a right -- public safety being one such reason or "need" or motivating factor. The constitution doesn't mention it but neither does it mention judicial review. They are both part of our common law as it has evolved over centuries of jurisprudence. |
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Well, the source of the liberal power base income is the federal gov. Chop off PG and Montgomery county and MD likely goes solid R View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I encourage everyone who lives in MD to leave, and try not to do business with firms located there. Cut off the statists' source of "revenue," taxes. Well, the source of the liberal power base income is the federal gov. Chop off PG and Montgomery county and MD likely goes solid R We need to create a new state called "Hellhole", where we combine those two counties in MD with Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria in VA. It would solve so many problems. |
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Quoted: Well both intermediate and strict scrutiny review include a review of a state's reasons for infringing a right -- public safety being one such reason or "need" or motivating factor. The constitution doesn't mention it but neither does it mention judicial review. They are both part of our common law as it has evolved over centuries of jurisprudence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: SNIP Where again in the Constitution does it say anything about public safety? Well both intermediate and strict scrutiny review include a review of a state's reasons for infringing a right -- public safety being one such reason or "need" or motivating factor. The constitution doesn't mention it but neither does it mention judicial review. They are both part of our common law as it has evolved over centuries of jurisprudence. |
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from: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Appeals-Court-to-Hear-Arguments-on-Maryland-Gun-Control-Law-289185621.html A federal appeals court has set oral arguments over the constitutionality of a Maryland law banning 45 assault weapons and gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia scheduled arguments in the matter for March 24. In court papers filed Friday, gun-rights advocates say the law violates the Second Amendment and that a federal judge in Baltimore erred when she upheld the law last summer. Brian Frosh, Maryland's newly sworn-in attorney general and chief sponsor of the law while a state senator, said Monday that the law passes constitutional muster to protect public safety. "I think this is a common-sense test,'' Frosh told The Daily Record. "The Second Amendment does not protect assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's certainly not what the framers of the Constitution intended when they drafted the Second Amendment.'' The law bans 45 assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Maryland lawmakers approved the sweeping legislation in 2013 in response to the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The shooting left 20 children and six educators dead, and became a rallying point for gun-control efforts. (more at above link) View Quote I swear, whenever a politician from EITHER side of the aisle says "common sense", I immediately discount whatever they are saying and hear "My opinion counts more than yours so I'm going to violate the law in order to force my agenda down your throat." Do they teach politicians to say that when they go to politician training? It's like the first rule they learn. "If you want to spout bullshit, just call it common sense, whether it is or not." Retards. |
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Too bad the 4th has such a bad record in terms of gun rights. Out of 15 judges that sit on the court 9 of them were appointed by democrat presidents including a chief justice appointed by clinton, and seven of them were appointed by Obama.
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Unfortunately, the Fourth Circuit has been all progged up to the point that it rivals the Nutty Ninth. If you were able to reassemble the Fourth of forty years ago, this would be a tap-in win. Now, it's a waste of time, except as a necessary step to get a chance to file a writ.
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I and most of my friends, 50 years ago, would have lost a bet if someone insisted this country would become so fucked up in the future.
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