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Posted: 1/20/2015 4:37:40 PM EDT
just as keystone is coming up.false flag?
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Jews probably
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:40:02 PM EDT
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cheap oil corrodes pipelines
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:40:27 PM EDT
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Entirely too convenient.

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:41:06 PM EDT
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Probably some leftwing eco terrorist that wanted to make an example.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:41:18 PM EDT
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its obama's fault.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:41:42 PM EDT
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Nah, just an inconvenient truth.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:42:02 PM EDT
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Don't worry, obama is on the job.





He will ban oil.






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Yeah, must be that cheap, shitty  frac'd oil, everyone knows that shits all full of chemicals.

 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:43:27 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly.
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isn't Montana's governor a democrat?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:47:37 PM EDT
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They need a reason to up prices so we will get at least  a dollar a gallon spike due to this "accident"
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:51:06 PM EDT
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Umm.  Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.
It has quite a bit of H2S in it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:59:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:02:20 PM EDT
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Bushes fault
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:03:50 PM EDT
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I wonder if that will be brought up today during the speech as a reason for needing new safety guidelines/fed oversight.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:04:56 PM EDT
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ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:06:08 PM EDT
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Link?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:06:20 PM EDT
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This is AFRCOM GD

/b/ is over there ------->
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:07:03 PM EDT
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Damn that was post 17000
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:07:59 PM EDT
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You're expecting far too much from a gene5 thread.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:10:34 PM EDT
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That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?

they do with smart PIGs. I would guess that it burst because of human error or malice.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:19:03 PM EDT
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Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill.  Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production.  Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).



OH NO!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:23:13 PM EDT
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Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill.  Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production.  Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).



OH NO!!!!!
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or, another way to put it -


.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.



 

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:26:13 PM EDT
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.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.
 

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Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill.  Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production.  Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!
or, another way to put it -

.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.
 



Better start a new thread for that ish
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:29:45 PM EDT
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It's Billings dude.  Just spread it out on some dirt roads.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:29:49 PM EDT
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OH NO!!!!!
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I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:32:09 PM EDT
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I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
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Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill.  Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production.  Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!


I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....

they say it already has.warning people about the drinking water.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:36:03 PM EDT
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oil running through pipelines puts a lot of wear and tear on the pipe. failures do happen.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:37:57 PM EDT
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time to get back on those meds.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:38:08 PM EDT
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#Blackoilmatters
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:40:46 PM EDT
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Umm.  Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.


It has quite a bit of H2S in it.
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cheap oil corrodes pipelines
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Umm.  Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.


It has quite a bit of H2S in it.







Meh, it's an old pipeline. It has probably seen quite a bit of sour crude.







at all of the people saying it's a convenient timing.






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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:42:29 PM EDT
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It was because of the GOP and their Bushy McHalliburton Weather machine, wasn't it? Pipeline was weakened by hunters shooting nearby and the lead caused it to corrode externally, while fraking miniquakes caused seals to wear. Big Tobacco was involved some how.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:51:10 PM EDT
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The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...



Its okay to have those there.



But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:57:56 PM EDT
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FPNI.
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That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.


ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?










Every muther fucking 5 fucking years. (DOT regulation)



Problem is that if the pipeline isn't kept in a state of turbulant flow, water can and does fall out of the oil.  Then it settles on the bottom of the pipe at the 6 o'clock position.  Water and b/s = bacteria.  Bacteria eats the steel of the pipe.  Bingo, we have a Leak.  The trick is to catch it before it eats a hole all the way thru.



And lets not rule out 3rd party damages.  Those are always fun....Not.



I was surprised that there leak detection system caught the leak within 300 barrels.  To bad they think they had 900 barrels drained up until they got the block valves shut.



 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:12:16 PM EDT
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The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...



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We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.









 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:14:09 PM EDT
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See my post above.





It's keeping internal corrosion at bay is all about the turbulent flow.
 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:14:14 PM EDT
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Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:15:20 PM EDT
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That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.


ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
All the time.  You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...

 



Syncrude from Canada has been treated to prolong pipeline life.  The crude this pipeline transported wasn't.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:16:31 PM EDT
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not to mention obama promising to veto any keystone bill that lands on his desk, and thats a promise I suspect he'll keep
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We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.







 
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The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...



Its okay to have those there.



But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....




We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.







 
Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.  

 
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I doubt it.  It may delay it further.





That's just IMHO
 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:20:14 PM EDT
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Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill.  Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production.  Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).



OH NO!!!!!




I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
A little activated carbon will soak up that petro smell.  It isn't hazardous, it is just ill tasting.

 
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I doubt it.  It may delay it further.





That's just IMHO
 
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Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.




I doubt it.  It may delay it further.





That's just IMHO
 
The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.

 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:24:22 PM EDT
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Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.    
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The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...



Its okay to have those there.



But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....




We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.







 
Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.    




We were just talking about them here.





http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dob08
 
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:25:09 PM EDT
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Probably couldn't get a permit to routinely maintain/replace the pipe.
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The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.  
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Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.




I doubt it.  It may delay it further.





That's just IMHO
 
The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.  


Pipeline is infrastructure, and cheap over the long term and worth investing in. Oil Exploration and development is the expensive bit that gets held off when oil prices drop.



 
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All the time.  You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...  


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That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.


ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
All the time.  You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...  



Syncrude from Canada has been treated to prolong pipeline life.  The crude this pipeline transported wasn't.




Do you know what they are treating it with?
 
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