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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:01:25 PM EDT
[#1]
I use 3.0 grains of Titegroup in my 9mm loadings and they are plenty fast. 41.0 grains of pistol powder (fast burning) is basically a mini pipe bomb...as evidenced by the photos. Dude is lucky he has two hands still.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:01:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Ruined the rifle, glass a perfectly good hand and at least one pair of shorts.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:03:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Wow.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:07:16 PM EDT
[#4]
My reloading bench is in my garage, my powder is stored inside. Only 1 type of powder is allowed in the garage at any one time.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:08:19 PM EDT
[#5]
 good god
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:09:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:10:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My reloading bench is in my garage, my powder is stored inside. Only 1 type of powder is allowed in the garage at any one time. I follow that advice, except that I have my bench and my powder in the same room. Only one jug of powder is out of the cabinet at a time. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:11:13 PM EDT
[#8]
I would like to think I would notice the powder was not extruded as I loaded.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:12:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Rule #5 of reloading.
Know the shape of the powder you are using. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:13:59 PM EDT
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Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. I do question how an experienced reloader would not know the difference of the grains by sight as they look nothing alike. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:14:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:15:19 PM EDT
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I have been reloading for better part of a decade now and I still only use a single stage and double check every step and I load ALOT. Reloading can be very dangerous and people dont understand when I tell them that I wont load ammo for them. Even if they offer to pay.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:15:37 PM EDT
[#13]
I have a fire proof locker I bought from a going out of business sale. I get out one type of powder at a time to put on the bench.
I always double check the powder type before putting any in the powder dispenser. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:15:56 PM EDT
[#14]
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Rule #5 of reloading. Know the shape of the powder you are using. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Titegroup.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Varget.jpg It even feels different coming out of a powder drop. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:16:01 PM EDT
[#15]
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Rule #5 of reloading. Know the shape of the powder you are using. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Titegroup.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Varget.jpg No shit... |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:16:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Damn. He's lucky to be live after that rifle blew up.
PSA's like this help remind everyone to correctly ID powder before loading. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:19:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. I don't know the volumetric density of Titegroup but that too should be a clue. Guess 41 grains nearly filled the case, meaning he weighed the charge. More props to Lee as they list VMD and have meaningful calibration of their measures.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:21:18 PM EDT
[#18]
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My reloading bench is in my garage, my powder is stored inside. Only 1 type of powder is allowed in the garage at any one time. That's a good idea. I screwed up several months ago. I was loading .9mm and needed to fill the powder hopper. I grabbed the wrong bottle and ended up mixing acute 2015 rifle powder with accurate #5 pistol powder. Had to destroy about a 1/2 lb of powder. Fortunately I measure every 10 rnds so I didn't have to dump to many casings. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:21:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It even feels different coming out of a powder drop. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rule #5 of reloading. Know the shape of the powder you are using. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Titegroup.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Varget.jpg It even feels different coming out of a powder drop. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:24:48 PM EDT
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I would like to think I would notice the powder was not extruded as I loaded. No kidding. I've not seen TiteGroup, but I'd bet it's not like little pencil leads. 
Edit: Ha! Should have kept reading--the very next post has pics. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:26:42 PM EDT
[#21]
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Novice reloader. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. RIF http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/titegroup/ At that point, Denny realized what caused the accident — “operator error”. He knew he had to warn others about using the wrong powder: “I knew I needed to share my mistake, even though it is embarrassing, just to remind people. I’ve been reloading for 30 years…” |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:28:15 PM EDT
[#22]
No fucking shit they're not interchangeable...
I converted most of my pistol loads over to Titegroup because it's low throw weight, position ally indifferent and is not affected by temperatures we see around here. But damn it, no Titegroup has come back to the PNW in like 18 months. Plenty of TiteWAD though... |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:28:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Big mistake, he lucked out
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:28:56 PM EDT
[#24]
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My reloading bench is in my garage, my powder is stored inside. Only 1 type of powder is allowed in the garage at any one time. That seems logical and prudent. That dude is lucky he didn't loose an eye as well |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:31:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. RIF http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/titegroup/ At that point, Denny realized what caused the accident — "operator error”. He knew he had to warn others about using the wrong powder: "I knew I needed to share my mistake, even though it is embarrassing, just to remind people. I’ve been reloading for 30 years…” |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:33:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Damn. You would think they would like color code labels like they do with Shotgun shells to try keep mix ups to a minimum.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:34:04 PM EDT
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Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. RIF http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/titegroup/ At that point, Denny realized what caused the accident — “operator error”. He knew he had to warn others about using the wrong powder: “I knew I needed to share my mistake, even though it is embarrassing, just to remind people. I’ve been reloading for 30 years…” I read that and although he may have had reloading equipment for 30 years, that is a very novice mistake. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:35:02 PM EDT
[#28]
If he sues Hogden for this, I hope Charles Schumer sues him for the pipe bomb
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:36:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:36:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Don't move this to Reloading, we have already have an active thread with discussion of the blow up.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:39:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Friend of mine had that happen once-but his was from buying gunshow powder. Bought some Winchester rifle powder. Not sealed but can was full. Loaded for a .458 based on that powder's data. When he got out of the hospital they had the powder analyzed(I assume the manufacturer asked for the powder and they did it). Turned out to be Winchester rifle powder with a good bit of Bullseye mixed in. He was lucky and got by with some powder burns and little more.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:40:54 PM EDT
[#32]
"a little goes a long way"
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:41:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Ouch
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:41:22 PM EDT
[#34]
so how much pistol powder would be equivalent to rifle? less than 1/3?
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:43:36 PM EDT
[#35]
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Damn. You would think they would like color code labels like they do with Shotgun shells to try keep mix ups to a minimum. Shotshell color coding is not failsafe either. I've had 10, 12 and 20 gauge shells all in green or black before. IIRC the green was Nitro-Steel and black was Winchester Supreme but it's been 15+ years since I've seen them the same color. My current 10 gauge Nitro-Steel are a muddy green-brown color, very different than the typical true brown Federal makes. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:43:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Ouch
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:44:17 PM EDT
[#37]
Talk about a brain fart. Hopefully it's not the early stages of dimentia.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:44:53 PM EDT
[#38]
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My reloading bench is in my garage, my powder is stored inside. Only 1 type of powder is allowed in the garage at any one time. I only allow myself one type of powder out of the cabinet at a time. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:46:05 PM EDT
[#39]
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so how much pistol powder would be equivalent to rifle? less than 1/3? Depending on the powder possibly less than 1/4. .30-06, for example-a tame load is roughly 45 grains of 4895. I've seen cast bullet plinking loads using Unique listed using 10 grains(never used them, but they're out there) |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:48:14 PM EDT
[#40]
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Rule #5 of reloading. Know the shape of the powder you are using. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Titegroup.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/Varget.jpg This was my thoughts as well. These two powders are not even remotely similar in appearance. The guy got lucky, that's all I can say. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:50:31 PM EDT
[#41]
This is why I don't reload.
And because I don't reload, I don't shoot very much.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:50:48 PM EDT
[#42]
Yup, that is what happens....
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:51:59 PM EDT
[#43]
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so how much pistol powder would be equivalent to rifle? less than 1/3? Powders are rated by the speed at which they burn. Pistol powders typically burn faster than powders used for rifle loads. And different powders are used for different cartridges, as well. There is not really a way to compare them the way you asked. For instance, you can't substitute a smaller load of pistol powder to equal a rifle load. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:52:45 PM EDT
[#44]
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Yup, that is what happens....
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:53:05 PM EDT
[#45]
That's gonna ruin his weekend.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:56:01 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Novice reloader. He didn't know what Varget or Titegroup looked like. Not that visual ID is smart as primary identification, it will keep you somewhat safer since most pistol powders look quite different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reading comprehension. Denny has none. The first thing I do before I buy powder is pickup the bottle and make sure I can use it in what I want to reload. Guy is lucky. He knew what to use it for he just grabbed the wrong bottle when he started reloading. I don't know the volumetric density of Titegroup but that too should be a clue. Guess 41 grains nearly filled the case, meaning he weighed the charge. More props to Lee as they list VMD and have meaningful calibration of their measures. He had been loading for over 30 years. What he did comment on that he had never loaded Varget before, and had forgotten that he had the Titegroup and grabbed it by mistake and did not look at the labels.(Label facing away) |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:57:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Wow, that must have made one hell of a racket.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:58:19 PM EDT
[#48]
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This is why I don't reload. And because I don't reload, I don't shoot very much. Poor reason not to reload IMO... are you scared to drive a vehicle as well? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:59:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You may say complacency was his fault. He was a novice because he didn't double check. I've known (Not personally) 30 year master electricians that have electrocuted themselves simply because they didn't double check. There is no way they were novices. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:00:27 PM EDT
[#50]
A friend of my uncles (and a guy that has been reloading for probably 35 or 40 years) was loading for a 7mm mag. He grabbed the wrong bottle off of the shelf and put a faster burning .223 powder into the 7mm mag. Not sure exactly which powders he mixed up though. I don't ask any questions on this subject. My uncle was the one who got to shoot the first round out of the gun. There was fiberglass embedded all around his glasses in his face and the scope went flying over his head. Both of these guys are extremely experienced reloaders.
This all happened a year or so before I started reloading and I took one of the most valuable lessons about reloading from it. Only 1 powder on the bench at any time. Even experienced guys can have slip ups from time to time. It's best to try and do anything you can to prevent them from happening.
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