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Posted: 1/18/2015 12:01:26 AM EDT
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Never gonna happen
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Posted: 1/18/2015 12:05:46 AM EDT
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats.
«tc2k11» |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 12:06:58 AM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 12:59:09 AM EDT
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Too bad they can't slip a 922 (o) repeal in with it.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:01:05 AM EDT
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» They mostly are. Guns are pretty much the only thing that differentiate (R) from (D) It needs to be noted that this is a repeal of a (R) president signed law. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:03:34 AM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. Yes. The original act should be repealed. Then let the Local Communities decide. Then let's see where the brass falls. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:04:38 AM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:05:27 AM EDT
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They mostly are. Guns are pretty much the only thing that differentiate (R) from (D) It needs to be noted that this is a repeal of a (R) president signed law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» They mostly are. Guns are pretty much the only thing that differentiate (R) from (D) It needs to be noted that this is a repeal of a (R) president signed law. Yeah. And Scalia is pretty much the same as Ginsberg. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:09:54 AM EDT
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Not happening
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:15:29 AM EDT
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The current federal law allows CCW holders to be on school property armed.
This is how some states allow armed teachers. Most states however make it illegal. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:16:07 AM EDT
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Republicans want to kill our children
-Nancy "psycho" Pelosi" |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:18:49 AM EDT
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The current federal law allows CCW holders to be on school property armed. This is how some states allow armed teachers. Most states however make it illegal. Good to go in Utah. 
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:21:12 AM EDT
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Good to go in Utah. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The current federal law allows CCW holders to be on school property armed. This is how some states allow armed teachers. Most states however make it illegal. Good to go in Utah. Just don't take your gun to church. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:23:13 AM EDT
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Let's talk "if" it passes.... Making up legislation and actually getting it passed into law are two different entities. Why didn't the republicans reverse the 20,000+ laws in the books when they had total control of the house, senate and presidency 2001-2006? |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:23:55 AM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. Disagree. The Second Amendment is a Federal issue. Some states have passed all kinds of gun laws that suck, even more than the Feds. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:24:51 AM EDT
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Just don't take your gun to church. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The current federal law allows CCW holders to be on school property armed. This is how some states allow armed teachers. Most states however make it illegal. Good to go in Utah. Just don't take your gun to church. I don't.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:27:33 AM EDT
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Ya fucking right.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 5:53:11 AM EDT
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Zero will veto every one of these. The POS won't let anything pass during the final years of his emperorship.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 6:28:12 AM EDT
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Too bad they can't slip a 922 (o) repeal in with it. They can. 
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Posted: 1/18/2015 6:30:36 AM EDT
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Good to go in Utah. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The current federal law allows CCW holders to be on school property armed. This is how some states allow armed teachers. Most states however make it illegal. Good to go in Utah. And surprisingly in Delaware
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Posted: 1/18/2015 7:32:27 AM EDT
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Gotta love laws that do nothing to protect anyone
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Posted: 1/18/2015 8:47:15 AM EDT
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The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:34:27 PM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. No it shouldn't. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:36:11 PM EDT
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. my state already did. Now when i pick up or drop off the kids i dont have to have the vehicle gun free. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:40:25 PM EDT
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Yeah, lets see how many R's actually vote for it - assuming it even makes it to the floor. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:43:19 PM EDT
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Yeah, lets see how many R's actually vote for it - assuming it even makes it to the floor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Yeah, lets see how many R's actually vote for it - assuming it even makes it to the floor. its time we hammer them until it gets to the floor. once it gets to the floor we need to hammer them again. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:47:26 PM EDT
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Yes, it is. The US Constitution describes limits on the Federal government, not the states. The only reason RKBA (or even the First Amendment) applies to the states is a warped interpretation of the 14th. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. You're really not this dense are you? All of the articles in the Bill of Rights are applicable to ALL states and therefore protected and enforced by the federal government. The stats really have no authority to decide on Bill of Rights issues. Have they? Do they? Sure, but judges and legislators continue to fuck us in lots of ways. Its NOT a states' issue whatsoever, only fuckhead judges have convinced you that thinking is acceptable. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:58:22 PM EDT
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Yes, it is. The US Constitution describes limits on the Federal government, not the states. The only reason RKBA (or even the First Amendment) applies to the states is a warped interpretation of the 14th. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. However, there are very few States that do not also have a RKBA statement in their individual constitutions. The "usual suspects" of course, but surprisingly IA as well. Virginia's is, I think one of the best, as it not only includes the 2A USC verbatim, but expands it to explain that "the Militia" consists "of the whole of the people", which takes away the specious "they meant the National Guard" argument. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:26:11 AM EDT
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You're really not this dense are you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
You're really not this dense are you? All of the articles in the Bill of Rights... ...are applicable to ALL states... ...and therefore protected and enforced by the federal government. ...only fuckhead judges have convinced you that thinking is acceptable. Meanwhile, read some history. Start with "the Reconstruction Act" and explore the question: "How is it that a state must be a member of the Union in order to ratify an amendment to the US Constitution, but some states had to ratify the 14th Amendment before they were 'readmitted' to the Union?" Then ponder the question "Why did Congress wait to impose the 'due process' protected by the 14th until after the Federal government had stripped untold thousands of the very people they called 'citizens' of property without that very due process?" Here's a hint: Victori spolia! BTW, only the dimmest of wits would construe any of the above as my opposition to repealing a Federal law that was ridiculous on its face (like the one in the OP). |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:27:40 AM EDT
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Never gonna happen +1
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:27:54 AM EDT
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However, there are very few States that do not also have a RKBA statement in their individual constitutions. The "usual suspects" of course, but surprisingly IA as well. Virginia's is, I think one of the best, as it not only includes the 2A USC verbatim, but expands it to explain that "the Militia" consists "of the whole of the people", which takes away the specious "they meant the National Guard" argument. And Virginia is the only one brave enough to bare a breast on their flag, too! 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 10:58:10 AM EDT
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Zero will veto every one of these. The POS won't let anything pass during the final years of his emperorship. Good! Make him own his shit. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 10:59:43 AM EDT
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Yes, it is. The US Constitution describes limits on the Federal government, not the states. The only reason RKBA (or even the First Amendment) applies to the states is a warped interpretation of the 14th. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. Bullcrap. Only ONE amendment ever mentions the Federal government. Apparently, you are fine with states like NY and CA, etc making their citizens less equal that folks in other states. 
NOT a state's rights issue. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:01:33 AM EDT
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Only results matter. Republicans can "say" anything they want and "introduce" any bill they want. It's what gets "passed" and signed into law that matters. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:04:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. Period - fucking-DOT . |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:14:54 AM EDT
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We can CCW at school with a CFP. State funded schools that prohibit get their ass kicked by the state AG's office. State Supreme Court has already backed this.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:18:07 AM EDT
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Only results matter. Republicans can "say" anything they want and "introduce" any bill they want. It's what gets "passed" and signed into law that matters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Only results matter. Republicans can "say" anything they want and "introduce" any bill they want. It's what gets "passed" and signed into law that matters. Gee, they don't have the votes to override a veto. What would you have them do? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:34:07 AM EDT
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stupid feel good law that does as mush good as a screen door on a submarine. Exhibit 1: Sandy Hook |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:42:19 AM EDT
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Yes, it is. The US Constitution describes limits on the Federal government, not the states. The only reason RKBA (or even the First Amendment) applies to the states is a warped interpretation of the 14th. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. I'm not sure I understand you, or that you understand the 14th and the courts. The original intent of the privileges and immunities clause was absolutely to enforce the bill of rights at the state level. Where the court went wrong was in basically nullifying the P&I clause, and then using another, very warped 'interpretation' of another clause to accomplish incorporating tho BoR at state level. Maybe that's that you're referring to, but the written constitution as amended absolutely applies the bill of rights to the States. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:51:00 AM EDT
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my state already did. Now when i pick up or drop off the kids i dont have to have the vehicle gun free. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. my state already did. Now when i pick up or drop off the kids i dont have to have the vehicle gun free. What if you park it, leave the gun in the car & go in the school? In TN, with those actions, I would then be committing a crime. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:51:54 AM EDT
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Let's talk "if" it passes.... Making up legislation and actually getting it passed into law are two different entities. Why didn't the republicans reverse the 20,000+ laws in the books when they had total control of the house, senate and presidency 2001-2006? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Let's talk "if" it passes.... Making up legislation and actually getting it passed into law are two different entities. Why didn't the republicans reverse the 20,000+ laws in the books when they had total control of the house, senate and presidency 2001-2006? They were too busy expanding the size of government and increasing spending............ Hopefully this passes-hard to say if Obama would pass it or not.Worth a try imo. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd. GD told me that Republicans are the same as Democrats. «tc2k11» Let's see if they all support it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The 2A trumps states rights. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 2A trumps states rights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The 2A trumps states rights. Agreed. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:15:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never gonna happen It could if some members of Congress would start trolling those "must pass to read bills" 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:23:42 PM EDT
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H.R.86 -- Safe Students Act To repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and amendments to that Act. I like what the title of this bill implies. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:27:55 PM EDT
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Yes, it is. The US Constitution describes limits on the Federal government, not the states. The only reason RKBA (or even the First Amendment) applies to the states is a warped interpretation of the 14th. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. +1 Concealed carry was prohibited by most States throughout the 19th century beginning in 1813. It was regarded as evidence of ill intent. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 1:44:37 PM EDT
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It could if some members of Congress would start trolling those "must pass to read bills" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never gonna happen It could if some members of Congress would start trolling those "must pass to read bills" And when Zero vetoes them, then what? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 1:46:28 PM EDT
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+1 Concealed carry was prohibited by most States throughout the 19th century beginning in 1813. It was regarded as evidence of ill intent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. +1 Concealed carry was prohibited by most States throughout the 19th century beginning in 1813. It was regarded as evidence of ill intent. Nope. I don't care what states have done, it is still not within the legitimate authority of any state to make gun laws even though they have gotten away with it at least since 1813. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 1:49:54 PM EDT
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The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be a matter for the individual states to decide. The RKBA has no **'s after it. This is NOT a state issue. evidently you don't understand what the constitution does and why states have their own laws and own constitutions. it IS a state issue. |
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