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Posted: 1/17/2015 2:52:40 AM EDT
So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime.
So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder. She said no.. I say yes. This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact. Could you help or disprove this? What is the most correct answer? ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!! She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke. BJ to follow.. NO PICS.. lol |
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correct, too tired to cite tho
there was a story i remember a few months ago, where some guy was waving an unloaded gun around in a bar. cops shot him, some bullets missed, one struck and killed a woman. perp (waver of unloaded firearm) survived and was charged with murder |
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It's called "felony murder" and yes, you're correct.
It goes even further. If the two of you were robbing a store, and the clerk has a heart attack and dies, you could both be charged with felony murder (i.e. first degree murder) as well. See, e.g., http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/30/robber-charged-with-murder-after-elderly-lady-has-heart-attack/ |
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I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases.
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Yes, and this is probably why the piece of crap that was stealing cigarillos with Mike Brown immediately told a lie about the shooting. "He shot him in the back with his hands up!"
He in Cali, if anyone dies while committing/fleeing a crime, the surviving criminal can be charged with the death even if it was a cop that killed him. |
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Brotha, I would, but this pastt thanksgiving I posted her titties on here.. Through aarchtan, they could be seen. I can't post her face here bc if two and two, and Plus her career could be jepordized..
Hint hint, I bet he still had the pic of tits and an SP1 barrel.. PM him.. |
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In before some dumbass says "once we see pics I can tell you if she's right"
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It's called "felony murder" and yes, you're correct. It goes even further. If the two of you were robbing a store, and the clerk has a heart attack and dies, you could both be charged with felony murder (i.e. first degree murder) as well. See, e.g., http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/30/robber-charged-with-murder-after-elderly-lady-has-heart-attack/ View Quote Some states take it so far as to charge drug dealers who sold drugs to someone who then ODs, with murder. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/crime-and-courts/3657387-3-women-charged-murder-polk-county-after-drug-overdose-woman http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/08/drug-dealers-charged-in-overdose-death/15280295/ http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article2486235.html http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/08/in_gentilly_heroin_overdose_no.html Which could lead to difficult questions such as if a drug dealer just selling drugs is potentially committing murder with every sale wouldn't anyone shooting them to stop them from selling drugs be legally defending another? |
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Yes. It is possible...
Guilt on this forum is determined by rules. PM me said pic, and I will make my ruling. |
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Here is a thread from yesterday ,I think, that talks about it. Thread
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So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime. So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder. She said no.. I say yes. This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact. Could you help or disprove this? What is the most correct answer? ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!! She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke. BJ to follow.. NO PICS.. lol View Quote That'll probably be enough to get the taste out of your mouth. |
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I deleted it from my files, as I get to play with them D tits everyday. Aarchtan is who you need to hit up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yes. It is possible... Guilt on this forum is determined by rules. PM me said pic, and I will make my ruling. I deleted it from my files, as I get to play with them D tits everyday. Aarchtan is who you need to hit up. One of these days..... I'll have to spring for the team membership again |
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Yeah, here's a current case:
TL;DR: 5 yoots commit burglary, homeowner shoots 1, other 4 get 50 yrs for felony murder. http://freetheelkhart4.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-drizin/the-elkhart-four_b_4034052.html |
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I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now?
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So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime. So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder. She said no.. I say yes. This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact. Could you help or disprove this? What is the most correct answer? ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!! She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke. BJ to follow.. NO PICS.. lol View Quote I think the bigger news is your wife said sge was WRONG and APOLOGIZED Last statement from my wife like that was in 1990 We weren't married then |
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The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won.
Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP. |
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Nope. Felony murder. The justification for the sentence is that the death would not have happened if the crime hadn't been committed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases. Nope. Felony murder. The justification for the sentence is that the death would not have happened if the crime hadn't been committed. Let me clarify (and CMA): This is a POSSIBLE sentence . Most any lesser sentence is possible, too, depending on the court's guidelines, which will vary from one location to another. |
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The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won. Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won. Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP. In a family argument, if it turns out you are right--apologize at once!
Lazarus Long |
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Wait.
I'm pretty sure there was an exception to a co defendant. If the "clerk" of the store was killed, it's felony murder. But if s co conspirator is killed it wasn't ? I remember this from bar prep but in my practice now I have never ran into it. After I passed the bar I threw all of my bar prep away so I have no clue if I'm remembering correctly. In wv (at least), it seems that if anyone is killed during the commission of a felony A charge of felony murder can be triggered. |
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Wait. I'm pretty sure there was an exception to a co defendant. If the "clerk" of the store was killed, it's felony murder. But if s co conspirator is killed it wasn't ? I remember this from bar prep but in my practice now I have never ran into it. After I passed the bar I threw all of my bar prep away so I have no clue if I'm remembering correctly. In wv (at least), it seems that if anyone is killed during the commission of a felony A charge of felony murder can be triggered. View Quote This may change from state to state. |
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OP,
Did you really win!?? You REALLY think so!!??? LOL BTW, you ARE correct... in most free states anyway. |
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I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now? View Quote Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out! She's a keeper.. |
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Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out! She's a keeper.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now? Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out! She's a keeper.. Sounds like a keeper. |
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