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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:30:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Removal of the Forward Assist.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:33:46 AM EDT
[#2]
The damn detent and spring retaining the front hinge pin. Gotta be a better way. That and the charging handle is awkward with a scoped gun.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:35:14 AM EDT
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I'd like to see a cyclic trigger weight on the third selector position, combined with a .015 reset
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:42:59 AM EDT
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Removal of the Forward Assist. ^ this ^ |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:44:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Weight reduction. Computer assisted design, engineering experience with the AR platform, and materials should be able to impact a decent weight drop without sacrificing durability and/or safety. A mountainbike is not a gun, but even those MTB models that can jump off a cliff and not snap like a twig have gone from 50lbs. down to 30lbs...with maybe even more reliability and durability. I think there's room for losing pork on these guns.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:49:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Addition of a piston system
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:49:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Weight reduction. Computer assisted design, engineering experience with the AR platform, and materials should be able to impact a decent weight drop without sacrificing durability and/or safety. A mountainbike is not a gun, but even those MTB models that can jump off a cliff and not snap like a twig have gone from 50lbs. down to 30lbs...with maybe even more reliability and durability. I think there's room for losing pork on these guns. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/625051_ULTRA_light_weight_picture_thread____the_under_6_crowd_.html |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:50:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Addition of a piston system |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:17:38 AM EDT
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Addition of a piston system And some type of "collapsible" stock. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:26:32 AM EDT
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Addition of a piston system http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=535 Issue everyone a KAC SR-16 Mod 2 and you have the perfect gun. Until then our new M4A1's will be fine. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:13:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Ambi everything as a standard
no forward assist |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:23:37 PM EDT
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I've seen a few companies producing lowers with threads in the detent/spring hole for the rear take down pin. Then they put an Allen screw behind the detent and spring. Now whenever you decide to remove the receiver end plate you don't have a spring flying out and it also stays in place when your trying to install the receiver end plate. I've also seen these Allen screws in place of the roll pin that traditionally holds the bolt release in place. The way I see it, those are simple design enhancements that don't hinder "user preference", don't add to weight, and don't significantly change the design of the weapon. Things like that should become the new standard across the board.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:25:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Why the forward assist hate? I've had to use mine several times
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:45:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:46:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted: Removal of the Forward Assist. I've actually had to use my F/A....so no. And it wasn't at the range punching paper |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:57:02 PM EDT
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As far as lightening the load, sure it can be done. But it's expensive so most of us opt out. We like our forged receivers, cause they're strong n cheap. Yet an $80 carbon lower is only 3.2oz. But most don't run them, because wev think it won't be strong enough. You could go billet, they'll be strong enough as far as most are concerned, but they're expensive and I don't see the weight as an issue.
As for practical improvements? I got nothing. Usually I'm fine with the at, it's only after I try and enjoy a new product that I question how we've gone without this for so long. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:00:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Carrier with lessened contacting area to the upper receiver.
IMO the only improvement needed to a 'DI' AR system is a design that lessen the surface contact between the carrier and upper receiver, basically a 'sand cutter' carrier or LMT's Enhanced carrier. We all know oil is required for a 'DI' rifle to run reliably b/c of the more than necessary contacting area between carrier and upper, if the contacting surface area is lessened the amount of oil needed for the rifle to run reliably will be less. Also, the cut out area would help to scrape away the carbon and dirt, extending the reliability period. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:52:47 PM EDT
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Carrier with lessened contacting area to the upper receiver. IMO the only improvement needed to a 'DI' AR system is a design that lessen the surface contact between the carrier and upper receiver, basically a 'sand cutter' carrier or LMT's Enhanced carrier. We all know oil is required for a 'DI' rifle to run reliably b/c of the more than necessary contacting area between carrier and upper, if the contacting surface area is lessened the amount of oil needed for the rifle to run reliably will be less. Also, the cut out area would help to scrape away the carbon and dirt, extending the reliability period. This is a VERY common misconception about the carrier, so don't feel bad. It already has them in the form of four narrow ribs running lengthwise on the body of the carrier. The round portion of the carrier does not contact the upper and there is a lot of empty space there for dirt. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:01:34 PM EDT
[#19]
I say bolt catch/release like on the LWRC IC lowers.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:08:48 PM EDT
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Carrier with lessened contacting area to the upper receiver. IMO the only improvement needed to a 'DI' AR system is a design that lessen the surface contact between the carrier and upper receiver, basically a 'sand cutter' carrier or LMT's Enhanced carrier. We all know oil is required for a 'DI' rifle to run reliably b/c of the more than necessary contacting area between carrier and upper, if the contacting surface area is lessened the amount of oil needed for the rifle to run reliably will be less. Also, the cut out area would help to scrape away the carbon and dirt, extending the reliability period. This is a VERY common misconception about the carrier, so don't feel bad. It already has them in the form of four narrow ribs running lengthwise on the body of the carrier. The round portion of the carrier does not contact the upper and there is a lot of empty space there for dirt. No, no, no, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 4 surfaces on the carrier that makes contact with the upper receiver. I brought up designs like the Sand Cutter carrier by KAC(wish those are available for my SR15 Mod1) and LMT E Carrier b/c they have less contacting surfaces on the 4 surfaces on the carrier. Please look at the picture below of the LMT E carrier, the silver shiny part is the contacting surface which is much smaller than standard carrier. 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:26:40 PM EDT
[#21]
Why is wylde chamber not the standard?
Selector on safe regardless of hammer position Stop pinning FSB’s on (except repo retro stuff) |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:35:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Why is wylde chamber not the standard? Selector on safe regardless of hammer position Stop pinning FSB’s on (except repo retro stuff) |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:49:29 PM EDT
[#23]
A shoulder thing that goes up.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:58:13 PM EDT
[#24]
MOAR Belt Fed Designs
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:03:20 PM EDT
[#25]
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Removal of the Forward Assist. 
I see you've never had to use one. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:16:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: MOAR Belt Fed Designs I have quite a bit of fun with my PMAG 40's though.  |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:18:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
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Removal of the Forward Assist.
I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:25:04 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Removal of the Forward Assist. I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. IMO the mainspring needed replaced on the rifle, but I believe it met minimum length and the armory considered it fine. I'm not saying it is 100% required, I could have pushed the carrier closed with my thumb, but I prefer to have the FA. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:26:11 PM EDT
[#29]
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Removal of the Forward Assist.
I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. This makes zero sense. you make it sound nice and calm and on your terms. How about you go quote that BS to dangerdan as well, who has had to use his forward assist in combat. You lose a huge portion of dexterity when somebody is firing at you, as well as the ability to choose between options, you resort to your training. Muscle memory. Forward assist. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:19:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Removal of the Forward Assist. I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. This makes zero sense. you make it sound nice and calm and on your terms. How about you go quote that BS to dangerdan as well, who has had to use his forward assist in combat. You lose a huge portion of dexterity when somebody is firing at you, as well as the ability to choose between options, you resort to your training. Muscle memory. Forward assist. Rifles get dirty and your bolt dries up. Now what? I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:23:29 PM EDT
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This thread might be for you: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/625051_ULTRA_light_weight_picture_thread____the_under_6_crowd_.html Yeah, I've seem some decent 15 platform weights. I guess I should have indicated my response was directed more at AR-10's. The OP said "AR platform", but he might have been inclusive of the AR-15 only. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:06:57 PM EDT
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Removal of the Forward Assist.
I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. This makes zero sense. you make it sound nice and calm and on your terms. How about you go quote that BS to dangerdan as well, who has had to use his forward assist in combat. You lose a huge portion of dexterity when somebody is firing at you, as well as the ability to choose between options, you resort to your training. Muscle memory. Forward assist. Rifles get dirty and your bolt dries up. Now what? I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Sounds like we need new rifles If you have to forward assist rounds into the chamber when they get dirty.(kidding, though my M4 has had a number of stoppages) Seriously though, they can cause issues and have broken and locked up weapons, and you can use the scallop cut in the carrier where the dust cover detent gets engaged as a FA. I have personally never needed it, but I have only been to Afghanistan twice and was lucky enough to get a newer M4. I just prefer to stay away from it, and ran grease so I never had to worry about my bolt drying up. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:11:03 PM EDT
[#33]
The M16 pretty much had it perfect! Everything since has just mucked it up. I wish more companies made gats with A1 sights, LW barrels, maybe triangle handguards.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:16:50 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I see you've never had to use one. Why would you? If a round won't go into battery it is ill advised to use a plunger to shove it in and close the action. Better to discard the round and go on. This makes zero sense. you make it sound nice and calm and on your terms. How about you go quote that BS to dangerdan as well, who has had to use his forward assist in combat. You lose a huge portion of dexterity when somebody is firing at you, as well as the ability to choose between options, you resort to your training. Muscle memory. Forward assist. Rifles get dirty and your bolt dries up. Now what? I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Sounds like we need new rifles If you have to forward assist rounds into the chamber when they get dirty. Seriously though, they can cause issues and have broken and locked up weapons, and you can use the scallop cut in the carrier where the dust cover detent gets engaged as a FA. I have personally never needed it, but I have only been to Afghanistan twice and was lucky enough to get a newer M4. I just prefer to stay away from it, and ran grease so I never had to worry about my bolt drying up. You must have been a fobbit. I have never seen or heard of a forward assist causing any problems And it doesn't matter whether the weapon is new or old... Grease and/or thick oil makes dirt stick better. Your asking for a bad day in dusty/dirty environments. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:27:40 PM EDT
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Sounds like we need new rifles If you have to forward assist rounds into the chamber when they get dirty.(kidding, though my M4 has had a number of stoppages) Seriously though, they can cause issues and have broken and locked up weapons, and you can use the scallop cut in the carrier where the dust cover detent gets engaged as a FA. I have personally never needed it, but I have only been to Afghanistan twice and was lucky enough to get a newer M4. I just prefer to stay away from it, and ran grease so I never had to worry about my bolt drying up. That is the first I have ever heard of anything like that with the FA Grease in a sandy environment? Seriously? |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:30:46 PM EDT
[#36]
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The M16 pretty much had it perfect! Everything since has just mucked it up. I wish more companies made gats with A1 sights, LW barrels, maybe triangle handguards. Really now? Tell that to the guys who's rifles jammed up in Vietnam. Also, besides a minimal weight increase, what is the downside of a FA? I don't think I've ever seen a case where the FA caused a failure. I'm sure it's happened, but also few and far between. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:33:47 PM EDT
[#37]
It doesn't happen often but it could. I never used mine and every course I have taken when I am home have also always said to avoid the FA. I figure there is a reason why the people who teach courses and such do not teach using it.
But I am far from an expert. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:48:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: It doesn't happen often but it could. I never used mine and every course I have taken when I am home have also always said to avoid the FA. I figure there is a reason why the people who teach courses and such do not teach using it. But I am far from an expert. Are you that guy who would talk about the super secret XM15 with drain ports or some thing like that???
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:49:31 PM EDT
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It doesn't happen often but it could. I never used mine and every course I have taken when I am home have also always said to avoid the FA. I figure there is a reason why the people who teach courses and such do not teach using it. But I am far from an expert.
Are you that guy who would talk about the super secret XM15 with drain ports or some thing like that??? Clearly not, because I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:50:01 PM EDT
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I'd like to see a lower designed (and appropriate lower parts kit) that accepts a belt, so you can have clip-fed lowers and belt-fed lowers. THAT would be cool.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:58:26 PM EDT
[#41]
I have also used the forward assist on a very dirty rifle. I will not buy a non range only AR without one.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:22:12 PM EDT
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Removal of the Forward Assist. And it wasn't at the range punching paper +1 here. Someone that advocates for no FA, has never slept in a patrol base being rained on all night. No matter how hard you try, shit's gonna get wet eventually all the way through i.e. washing CLP off with rust setting in over a short amount of time. Ive used a FA more than once or twice. I'd rather have it and not need it, than have a sticky bolt that will not return to full battery from rust friction to do proper weapons maintenance during light hours vs a quick wipedown in the dark during priorities of work after you've been moving with 65lbs on your shoulders all day. But thats just me..... 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:28:30 PM EDT
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I have also used the forward assist on a very dirty rifle. I will not buy a non range only AR without one. AS will I never. The Smith and Wesson M&P Sport is a good price point but i'll still be buying a blem Aero Precision upper for ~$45, grab a KAC RIS for $90 on eBay and still have a decent M4 clone for ~$700 |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:28:53 PM EDT
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I've used a FA a few times when the weapon gets wet and dirty in the woods. Never a big deal and I'd be fine without it, but a little tap and I'm ready to go, I like having it.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:38:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:40:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Carbon fiber tension barrels
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:41:31 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Taylor, wtf is wrong with your post? nothing shows in your quote box, and now nothing in your post
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:51:04 PM EDT
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So granted I have had issues with my M4 on occasion, but often it was my crappy issued mags and nothing that wasnt fixed with changing the mag and charging the rifle. My rounds sent down range in anger is also limited to a little over a thousand, with the rest on the flat range.
But to those who shoot a whole lot more than I do, is it really acceptable to in this day and age be saddled with a auto/semi auto rifle that becomes a single shot when dirty? Personally and to stick to the topic I would want either the SR-15 mods to be introduced or add a op rod(or LWRC/416 upper) which are proven to be more reliable. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:52:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sounds like we need new rifles If you have to forward assist rounds into the chamber when they get dirty.(kidding, though my M4 has had a number of stoppages)
Seriously though, they can cause issues and have broken and locked up weapons, and you can use the scallop cut in the carrier where the dust cover detent gets engaged as a FA. I have personally never needed it, but I have only been to Afghanistan twice and was lucky enough to get a newer M4. I just prefer to stay away from it, and ran grease so I never had to worry about my bolt drying up. A forward assist broke the weapon? Get real. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 8:00:19 PM EDT
[#50]
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Quoted: Sounds like we need new rifles If you have to forward assist rounds into the chamber when they get dirty.(kidding, though my M4 has had a number of stoppages)
Seriously though, they can cause issues and have broken and locked up weapons, and you can use the scallop cut in the carrier where the dust cover detent gets engaged as a FA. I have personally never needed it, but I have only been to Afghanistan twice and was lucky enough to get a newer M4. I just prefer to stay away from it, and ran grease so I never had to worry about my bolt drying up. A forward assist broke the weapon? Get real. I've seen one case of it, and it was a not to smart guys rifle. Now maybe he had messed around with it, I am not sure. But seeing the bolt carrier get jammed up due to the plunger was something I wouldn't want to happen. If the forward assist is really needed to keep a weapon running when it is dirty maybe it is time for a new weapon. Like I said I have a thousand or so rounds sent down range in anger, but that is my opinion. I cannot think of any other weapon platform where I will have people say, when my rifle gets dirty I have to slam a plunger to keep it running in single shot mode. |
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