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Posted: 10/1/2014 11:45:12 PM EDT
I saw a Smithsonian documentary about the 747 recently. They had an Air Force One pilot talking about the plane, and when he mentioned the classified defenses Air Force One has... well I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that it might have offensive weaponry on board. Not just countermeasures, but offensive weapons. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I figure it would be fairly easy to retrofit a 747 with a retractable gun turret or a weapons bay with missiles.
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I'm thinking that Air Force One would fly with fighter escort(s).
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I wouldn't imagine it would, but I'm pretty sure the fighter escorts have that capability...;)
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It doesn't always. In fact, it frequently doesn't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm thinking that Air Force One would fly with fighter escort(s). Aloha, Mark It doesn't always. In fact, it frequently doesn't. They're not going to fly formation for show, they're on high over watch. |
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A gun turret would be defensive. No, why would it have offensive weapons?? Unless you consider the "football" onboard as an offensive weapon.
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I'm not sure about Air Force One, but this is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho's plane.... http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090902003919/jets/images/3/31/AC-130A_pylon_turn.jpg View Quote And President Comacho himself manning the door gun. |
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I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities?
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I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities? View Quote I'd be shocked if it didn't. I think it would be easy to add some sidewinders inside a hidden weapons bay. I doubt it has radar-guided missiles, but IR missiles would be an easy mod. |
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Ronnie would clean their clocks at 1,000 yards. http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C18587-24.jpg View Quote Damn I miss that man! |
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They took the internal weapons bay out when they put the mini putting green in.
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No weapons, no escape pod. At least that is the "official" reply. That doesn't mean it doesn't have these things, only that they declare it as such.
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There is a water bed in the nose. When under attack the water is pumped outside to make a cloud the plane can hide behind.
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Not sure if it would be allowed into other country's airspace if it did. But then again, that would be quite an international incident if they refused.
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Well they would certainly be defensive, but I get what you mean. Weapons rather than countermeasures. I don't know and imagine no one is saying, but I do know that Hawker Siddeley Nimrods were retrofitted with Sidewinders during the Falklands ass kicking. http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/931349NimrodMR2PMalouines.jpg View Quote Sidewinders are awesome, and relatively easy to retrofit or integrate into an aircraft. I think everyone should have them! |
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Quoted: A gun turret would be defensive. No, why would it have offensive weapons?? Unless you consider the "football" onboard as an offensive weapon. View Quote Passive defense being defending yourself via evasion, stealth, maneuvering, armor, countermeasures, etc. (Like popping flares/chaff, radar jamming, etc). Active Defense being weapons that defend yourself by killing what is a threat to you.
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Rumor has it that chaff and flare countermeasures have been replaced by "K-FOD" systems (Kinetic Foreign Object Defense)
dispensers. System is activated by a "Bogey" - thousands of golf-balls are dumped out a special deployment system into then enemies flight path. |
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What would you shoot at, exactly? I doubt any country is stupid enough to shoot it down with a fighter, which leaves guerrillas with shitty ancient Soviet MANPAD systems.
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I saw a Smithsonian documentary about the 747 recently. They had an Air Force One pilot talking about the plane, and when he mentioned the classified defenses Air Force One has... well I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that it might have offensive weaponry on board. Not just countermeasures, but offensive weapons. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I figure it would be fairly easy to retrofit a 747 with a retractable gun turret or a weapons bay with missiles. View Quote |
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This might sound stupid but...It's a giant flying house. How hard could it be to disguise a rotary launcher for some AIM-9's? I don't know either way, but it would make some sense to have offensive weapons.
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This might sound stupid but...It's a giant flying house. How hard could it be to disguise a rotary launcher for some AIM-9's? I don't know either way, but it would make some sense to have offensive weapons. Glad I am not the only one who laughed about at the OP. OP, you should feel bad. |
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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.
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