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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:28:44 AM EDT
The 24,000-ton helicopter carrier is the first of two planned ships. Izumo will enter the JMSDF force next year. DDH-184 will enter the fleet in 2017, according to the Naval Institute’s Combat Fleet’s of the World. Link |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:46:02 AM EDT
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Interesting.
Almost dozed off listening to the sound of the waves. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:15:25 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years.
about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:17:42 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Japan pays about $2B annually to fund US bases in that country. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:19:45 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:21:05 PM EDT
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Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. Agreed. We should offer them good deals on gear and keep them tight |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:21:12 PM EDT
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about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:22:12 PM EDT
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about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. lol |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:22:51 PM EDT
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Well this may be a technicality, but I believe there actually needs to be an aircraft for it to carry if it's to qualify as an aircraft carrier. And if we're not counting helos, it's not a carrier yet.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:24:50 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. Agreed. We should offer them good deals on gear and keep them tight They already use some of our gear (F15s, Aegis, etc.) with some bleeding edge domestically produced electronic equipment upgrades. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:25:00 PM EDT
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Its not named Hiryu, Soryu, Kaga, Akagi, Shokaku, or Zuikaku....fail.....
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:26:49 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Is it really freeloading, when we are the ones who told them that they couldn't have a standing military? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:27:06 PM EDT
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Just imagine what sort of weird anime girl mascot it will have.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:27:11 PM EDT
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about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. lol Love it when they equate the European allies with the Asian ones. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:29:18 PM EDT
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They already use some of our gear (F15s, Aegis, etc.) with some bleeding edge domestically produced electronic equipment upgrades. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. Agreed. We should offer them good deals on gear and keep them tight They already use some of our gear (F15s, Aegis, etc.) with some bleeding edge domestically produced electronic equipment upgrades. Yep. I still think we should have sold them Raptors (with some stipulations) but that may because I'm having Ramen with friends |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:29:55 PM EDT
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Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities.
Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:30:37 PM EDT
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Yep. I still think we should have sold them Raptors. They want to, but Lockmart customer service keeps hanging up on them when they want to buy 100 Laptols. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:31:02 PM EDT
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about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. lol lol I love GD soooo much! Quoted:
Just imagine what sort of weird anime girl mascot it will have. It's their Navy, so there is a wide variety of tentacle porn that can be plastered on that beast! |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:38:11 PM EDT
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That thing is bigger than an Invincible class carrier.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:43:19 PM EDT
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Freeloaders?
We have their biggest naval and Air Force bases at our disposal. We conduct forward deployed operations from Japan. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:44:44 PM EDT
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Well this may be a technicality, but I believe there actually needs to be an aircraft for it to carry if it's to qualify as an aircraft carrier. And if we're not counting helos, it's not a carrier yet. Helos are sort of "craft" that move around in the "air" 
But, I do agree. Still, if they buy a VTOL F-35 variant, their helicopter carriers can probably become aircraft carriers with little modification. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:47:23 PM EDT
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Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. I would argue that it would be more likely for something to happen if Japan continues to appear to be a vulnerable target, or incapable of protecting their territory. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:48:21 PM EDT
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Needs a sign on it that says "Nanking or Bust"
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:50:35 PM EDT
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It was pretty smart of them to build a ship that can only take helicopters before they accept VTOL aircraft... this way it looks innocent and only "helicopters"
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:51:05 PM EDT
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hey maybe we have extra scrap metal to give them
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:51:16 PM EDT
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Needs a sign on it that says "Nanking or Bust" lol |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:55:05 PM EDT
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I would argue that it would be more likely for something to happen if Japan continues to appear to be a vulnerable target, or incapable of protecting their territory. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. I would argue that it would be more likely for something to happen if Japan continues to appear to be a vulnerable target, or incapable of protecting their territory. This will prompt further military build-up by the Chinese and increased naval activity from them. Promise you that. With their ships and Japanese ships in higher number coexisting in contested waters it's a powder keg. Misinterpretation by either party or "accident" could spark a regional and perhaps even global conflict. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:55:12 PM EDT
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Big enough for these I guess.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:58:56 PM EDT
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This is very bad for the endangered tigers and rhinoceroses of the world. The Chinese leaders are going to want extra doses of boner pills when they find out about this.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:00:12 PM EDT
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Japan pays about $2B annually to fund US bases in that country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Japan pays about $2B annually to fund US bases in that country. as opposed to germany that we paid to stay in their country. Thats one goofy looking destroyer. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:00:28 PM EDT
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Agreed. We should offer them good deals on gear and keep them tight Quote HistoryQuoted:
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now there's something we haven't seen on the surface in almost seventy years. about time, I say. Japanese should pay for their own defence instead of freeloading off the American taxpayer. Hate to break it to you, but it was US that put the restriction on them. That said, enough time has passed. Agreed. We should offer them good deals on gear and keep them tight Second that |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. You've got that backwards. War happens when strong forces see opportunity in attacking weak ones. Peace is secured by strength. This can be shown throughout history. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:11:37 PM EDT
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War happens when strong forces see opportunity in attacking weak ones. Or when a fading power feels challenged by an upstart. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This will prompt further military build-up by the Chinese and increased naval activity from them. Promise you that. With their ships and Japanese ships in higher number coexisting in contested waters it's a powder keg. Misinterpretation by either party or "accident" could spark a regional and perhaps even global conflict. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. I would argue that it would be more likely for something to happen if Japan continues to appear to be a vulnerable target, or incapable of protecting their territory. This will prompt further military build-up by the Chinese and increased naval activity from them. Promise you that. With their ships and Japanese ships in higher number coexisting in contested waters it's a powder keg. Misinterpretation by either party or "accident" could spark a regional and perhaps even global conflict. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:12:33 PM EDT
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That's one sharp looking ship; I bet it costs almost as much as 3 or 4 F 35s.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:15:05 PM EDT
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Helos are sort of "craft" that move around in the "air"
But, I do agree. Still, if they buy a VTOL F-35 variant, their helicopter carriers can probably become aircraft carriers with little modification. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well this may be a technicality, but I believe there actually needs to be an aircraft for it to carry if it's to qualify as an aircraft carrier. And if we're not counting helos, it's not a carrier yet. Helos are sort of "craft" that move around in the "air"
But, I do agree. Still, if they buy a VTOL F-35 variant, their helicopter carriers can probably become aircraft carriers with little modification. They would need a ski-jump ramp to carry useful loads, IIRC. I think they were designed with the possibility of fitting them out that way in the future, but I'm not certain of that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:18:49 PM EDT
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Does is turn into...........
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This will prompt further military build-up by the Chinese and increased naval activity from them. Promise you that. With their ships and Japanese ships in higher number coexisting in contested waters it's a powder keg. Misinterpretation by either party or "accident" could spark a regional and perhaps even global conflict. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. I would argue that it would be more likely for something to happen if Japan continues to appear to be a vulnerable target, or incapable of protecting their territory. This will prompt further military build-up by the Chinese and increased naval activity from them. Promise you that. With their ships and Japanese ships in higher number coexisting in contested waters it's a powder keg. Misinterpretation by either party or "accident" could spark a regional and perhaps even global conflict. China will build up anyways.. they want to control that part of the world |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:27:32 PM EDT
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Or when a fading power feels challenged by an upstart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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War happens when strong forces see opportunity in attacking weak ones. Or when a fading power feels challenged by an upstart. Or when one side sees their chance of getting better odds of winning fading. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:47:50 PM EDT
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From the limited reading I have done on this ship, it seems that its current claimed mission is ASW. Does Japan currently have anything or are they developing anything that can turn her into a more versatile asset? Or is she going to just be packed with SH-60s and anti-sub missiles?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:48:04 PM EDT
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Big enough for these I guess.
http://www.warchapter.com/images/Zero%20fighters%20on%20an%20aircraf%20carrier%202.jpg As large as any of the 21 Japanese carriers during WWII. Yamamoto would probably have given his left nut to have Izumo in his fleet. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:50:05 PM EDT
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Does is turn into........... http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7UQJS9uW--/17h38euye7fkujpg.jpg Wrong cartoon.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Needs a sign on it that says "Nanking or Bust" lol ... as bad as a Holocaust joke
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:55:32 PM EDT
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Needs a sign on it that says "Nanking or Bust" Like the world needs another Rape of Nanking.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:01:16 PM EDT
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... as bad as a Holocaust joke Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Needs a sign on it that says "Nanking or Bust" lol ... as bad as a Holocaust joke A chinaman, a japanese, a jew and a nazi walk into a bar. bartender says, "what is this? Some kind of joke?" |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:09:40 PM EDT
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As large as any of the 21 Japanese carriers during WWII. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Big enough for these I guess.
http://www.warchapter.com/images/Zero%20fighters%20on%20an%20aircraf%20carrier%202.jpg As large as any of the 21 Japanese carriers during WWII. Not completely true. Isumo - 19.5k tons empty, 27k tons loaded. 240m x 38m WW2: Akagi - 41k tons full load, 261m x 31m Kaga - 38k tons full load, 248m x 32m Shokaku - 32k tons full load, 258m x 26m Zuikaku - 32k tons full load, 258m x 26m Taiho - 37k tons full load, 261m x 28m Shinano - 69k tons full load, 266m x 36m |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:15:11 PM EDT
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Shinano - 69k tons full load, 266m x 36m Shinano would have been 72k tons if it had any watertight doors.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:17:12 PM EDT
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Not sure we should celebrate that Japan is increasing its naval capabilities. Should tensions build between China and Japan culminating in an armed confrontation of some sort the USA could be plunged into WWIII or at best suffer incredible disruption in trade resulting in devastating economic impact. We all "hope" that cooler rational minds will always prevail in other nations, but history has proven that is not always the case. Ooh man, good point. Sure wouldn't want to provoke anybody. Better to just sit tight on their island and hope no one notices. They probably better just go ahead and cede the Spratleys to China so they're even less provoked. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:18:14 PM EDT
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How could we build aircraft carrier with such small penis? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:19:08 PM EDT
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Lol
I can't wait until Japan has a not really a nuclear cruise missile |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:20:12 PM EDT
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Does it turn into a gobot?
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