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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:01:54 PM EDT
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:04:59 PM EDT
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:05:27 PM EDT
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I have a credit card processor linked to Gunbroker, so it's actually easier than using Paypal. You click a link through Gunbroker and punch in your CC, and done. But yes, I guess if the seller isn't set up for credit cards. I should have said, since I have a CC processor, I don't understand why.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:05:37 PM EDT
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Their company, their rules. Because freedom. Because 'murcia! |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:06:41 PM EDT
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me. It shouldn't. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:07:58 PM EDT
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Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. Unfortunately, this. I prefer it, but hate to use it. I know some people say that if their account gets locked, they won't ship until it's unlocked ETA: I'm generally speaking about our EE though |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:08:32 PM EDT
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It shouldn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me. It shouldn't. For them, the value of money a few dollars far exceeds the value of their convictions. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a credit card processor linked to Paypal, so it's actually easier than using Paypal. You click a link through Gunbroker and punch in your CC, and done. But yes, I guess if the seller isn't set up for credit cards. I should have said, since I have a CC processor, I don't understand why. How do you do this?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:10:27 PM EDT
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me. And yet, they people that boycott paypal pay taxes to a anti gun Gov't, buy food from companies that are anti-gun, buy cars from anti-gun companies, etc... I could go on..... That ignores other moral conflicts like supporting gay marriage, paying for abortions, etc. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:11:55 PM EDT
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How do you do this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a credit card processor linked to Paypal, so it's actually easier than using Paypal. You click a link through Gunbroker and punch in your CC, and done. But yes, I guess if the seller isn't set up for credit cards. I should have said, since I have a CC processor, I don't understand why. How do you do this? Lol, oops, should have said linked to Gunbroker, not Paypal. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:11:59 PM EDT
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Are they really anti-gun or are they bound by the laws (CA) in which they operate?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:13:11 PM EDT
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I'm on the road 6+ months of the year. If they don't take CC or PayPal, I'm not buying.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:13:56 PM EDT
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Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. You don't have a credit card? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:14:12 PM EDT
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me. Me too. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:14:32 PM EDT
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I prefer to use bitcoin. Cheap and you aren't supporting PayPal.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:15:19 PM EDT
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I have a credit card processor linked to Gunbroker, so it's actually easier than using Paypal. You click a link through Gunbroker and punch in your CC, and done. But yes, I guess if the seller isn't set up for credit cards. I should have said, since I have a CC processor, I don't understand why. Huh? I bought a 227 on GB last week and just clicked on the seller's CC link. Seller on GB won't take a CC, I don't buy. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:15:35 PM EDT
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:16:04 PM EDT
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You don't have a credit card? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. You don't have a credit card? 
Most people aren't like OP - 98% of the people selling in the EE don't have a credit card processor ready to go for their buyers. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:16:07 PM EDT
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fuck paypal
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:17:13 PM EDT
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? It's in the small print that they're allowed to hold it if you proceed with using them |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:20:44 PM EDT
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Most people aren't like OP - 98% of the people selling in the EE don't have a credit card processor ready to go for their buyers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. Because at this time there's nothing else quick and easy. You don't have a credit card?
Most people aren't like OP - 98% of the people selling in the EE don't have a credit card processor ready to go for their buyers. Not talking about EE, talking about GB. As for EE, if the seller has the capability to process a CC, I will use that. Otherwise, will send a USPS MO or if I am selling, I will accept a USPS MO. I don't use paypal both for political reasons and some of the stories I have heard, just like the one in OP. I don't give anyone access to any account, ever. So, right back at ya.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:20:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways.  The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful.. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:22:31 PM EDT
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Fuck paypal
I refuse to make a purchase with paypal , or accept it as payment |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:26:00 PM EDT
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? Quote HistoryQuoted:
wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. Quoted:
I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways. The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful..
I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:35:42 PM EDT
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Paypal for non-gun stuff on ebay or buying and selling car stuff. I've always used USPS money orders for firearms. Couple of days in the mail hasn't killed me yet and it's private.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:37:18 PM EDT
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Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. Quoted:
I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways. The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful..
I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? Im in the same boat as you. Im a GB seller and was threatened by paypal when I sold reloading components on there (they were going to steal about $700 I had in the account for selling projectiles...not even live ammo). I use the processor as well for CC payments. Payment Alliance Intl.....ill plug them for not being afraid to take GB payments. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:43:07 PM EDT
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Paypal for non-gun stuff on ebay or buying and selling car stuff. I've always used USPS money orders for firearms. Couple of days in the mail hasn't killed me yet and it's private. My problem with that is I'm 20 miles from the post office. And there's no way I will drive that far for a $20 RVG. We really need to get something pro gun. Don't you guys think ARF staff and members could come up with a new website that is just as easy as paypal? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:43:18 PM EDT
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Im in the same boat as you. Im a GB seller and was threatened by paypal when I sold reloading components on there (they were going to steal about $700 I had in the account for selling projectiles...not even live ammo). I use the processor as well for CC payments. Payment Alliance Intl.....ill plug them for not being afraid to take GB payments. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. Quoted:
I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways. The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful..
I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? Im in the same boat as you. Im a GB seller and was threatened by paypal when I sold reloading components on there (they were going to steal about $700 I had in the account for selling projectiles...not even live ammo). I use the processor as well for CC payments. Payment Alliance Intl.....ill plug them for not being afraid to take GB payments. And then I'll bitch about Payment Alliance. They sat on six figures of mine for 4 months during the panic, then told me to FOAD after they released the funds. Took them 3 weeks to send a letter even stating they were holding the funds from when they started the hold. They really fucked a lot of gun companies during the panic and should get slapped with a class action lawsuit. I batted around the circle of CC processors that allow gun-related transaction, the rest have scammy hidden fees, so they end up charging 4%+. I ended up back with Payment Alliance. 
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:44:42 PM EDT
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I think paypal was pushed to do this by the feds. It's gonna get harder and harder to do non-cash transactions for guns.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:46:10 PM EDT
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I've never had a problem with Paypal, while most of the time its discreet, like EE items, I've used it to pay for gun stuff off of Ebay before and they never said anything.
Maybe they just don't like Gunbroker? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:46:37 PM EDT
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So what was the item Op?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:57:53 PM EDT
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So what was the item Op? meh |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:05:35 PM EDT
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And then I'll bitch about Payment Alliance. They sat on six figures of mine for 4 months during the panic, then told me to FOAD after they released the funds. Took them 3 weeks to send a letter even stating they were holding the funds from when they started the hold. They really fucked a lot of gun companies during the panic and should get slapped with a class action lawsuit. I batted around the circle of CC processors that allow gun-related transaction, the rest have scammy hidden fees, so they end up charging 4%+. I ended up back with Payment Alliance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wtf. You havnt called paypal and told them to give you your money? Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. Quoted:
I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways. The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful..
I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? Im in the same boat as you. Im a GB seller and was threatened by paypal when I sold reloading components on there (they were going to steal about $700 I had in the account for selling projectiles...not even live ammo). I use the processor as well for CC payments. Payment Alliance Intl.....ill plug them for not being afraid to take GB payments. And then I'll bitch about Payment Alliance. They sat on six figures of mine for 4 months during the panic, then told me to FOAD after they released the funds. Took them 3 weeks to send a letter even stating they were holding the funds from when they started the hold. They really fucked a lot of gun companies during the panic and should get slapped with a class action lawsuit. I batted around the circle of CC processors that allow gun-related transaction, the rest have scammy hidden fees, so they end up charging 4%+. I ended up back with Payment Alliance. Wow. I was with them during the panic and they didnt do anything like that.....had a LOT of transactions. What was their excuse and why did they hold it? I had about $30,000 go through them during that same period. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:08:57 PM EDT
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Not talking about EE, talking about GB. As for EE, if the seller has the capability to process a CC, I will use that. Otherwise, will send a USPS MO or if I am selling, I will accept a USPS MO. I don't use paypal both for political reasons and some of the stories I have heard, just like the one in OP. I don't give anyone access to any account, ever. So, right back at ya.
The original quote I responded to was "Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff." That's not just GB 
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:11:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:16:23 PM EDT
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The original quote I responded to was "Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff." That's not just GB Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not talking about EE, talking about GB. As for EE, if the seller has the capability to process a CC, I will use that. Otherwise, will send a USPS MO or if I am selling, I will accept a USPS MO. I don't use paypal both for political reasons and some of the stories I have heard, just like the one in OP. I don't give anyone access to any account, ever. So, right back at ya.
The original quote I responded to was "Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff." That's not just GB The OP said nothing about EE and was all about paypal and GB. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:20:12 PM EDT
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Those who read and understand the PayPal terms of service, stop using PayPal.
Bring an attorney. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:21:30 PM EDT
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. They did that to me in 2009. I had to send them a promise that it would never happen again, and remove any reference to PayPal from my Gunbroker auctions. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:27:27 PM EDT
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Wow. I was with them during the panic and they didnt do anything like that.....had a LOT of transactions. What was their excuse and why did they hold it? I had about $30,000 go through them during that same period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not going to waste my time, just going to wait it out. Back in 2006, I sold $1500 of stuff that was not gun related. They sat on my money for several months, I was in college and needed the money, I was on the phone with them for hours every single day. It was ridiculous, I had sold a bunch of stuff that I had owned since I was a kid, they wanted everything under the sun related to the Ebay sales, even the original receipts from when I purchased the stuff. Quoted:
I had a buyer type in the GB#number in his title and some girl at paypal actually knew what "GB" meant and looked it up. She nailed me for selling an upper, I was pissed at the buyer and told him to send it "discreet" and he went ahead and typed the number anyways. The people at paypal are getting smart with searching item numbers. Be careful..
I'm actually pretty shocked that they're going through the trouble to search us out. The 2 transactions they got me on, the buyers didn't even put GB. I figured they were just giving in to anti-gunners by stating they don't allow gun transactions, but for them to start searching out numbers in the descriptions, it's crazy. GB has to has to be flush with fucking cash, why don't they start their own non-fraudulent GunPay? Im in the same boat as you. Im a GB seller and was threatened by paypal when I sold reloading components on there (they were going to steal about $700 I had in the account for selling projectiles...not even live ammo). I use the processor as well for CC payments. Payment Alliance Intl.....ill plug them for not being afraid to take GB payments. And then I'll bitch about Payment Alliance. They sat on six figures of mine for 4 months during the panic, then told me to FOAD after they released the funds. Took them 3 weeks to send a letter even stating they were holding the funds from when they started the hold. They really fucked a lot of gun companies during the panic and should get slapped with a class action lawsuit. I batted around the circle of CC processors that allow gun-related transaction, the rest have scammy hidden fees, so they end up charging 4%+. I ended up back with Payment Alliance. Wow. I was with them during the panic and they didnt do anything like that.....had a LOT of transactions. What was their excuse and why did they hold it? I had about $30,000 go through them during that same period. Too much cash money, said I wasn't approved for that much, although they couldn't really give me a number for what I was actually approved for. They picked a sample of transactions for me to confirm shipments, gave them the tracking numbers, still gave me the run around. Wanted financial statements for 2012, then wanted financial statements for the first quarter of 2013. Gave them everything, then they pretty much said fuck it, here's your money, go find another processor. The way I understand it, there is a lag when they get the cash from the credit card companies, I think they just didn't have the cash for the volume of gun industry sales and were stalling at every opportunity. I've been doing roughly the same sales as I did during the panic and they haven't done anything again....yet. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:29:03 PM EDT
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Are they really anti-gun or are they bound by the laws (CA) in which they operate? If no California gun companies could accept credit cards I would believe that. Otherwise, it's a pretty pathetic attempt at damage control from an alleged PayPal employee that used to post here. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:30:07 PM EDT
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Not really sure who the stupid one is... the buyer than wants to use it, or the seller that continues to take it and complain about it.
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff.
Giving the people what they want, the basic premise of operating a business in a capitalist market. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:30:38 PM EDT
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The amount of gun people willing to support an anti-gun company always amazed me. You can buy an NRA membership with Paypal. Curious that huh? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:34:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:37:54 PM EDT
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I prefer to use bitcoin. Cheap and you aren't supporting PayPal. This should become our preferred method. Fuck paypal. Just open up a coinbase account and start buying some or acquire them through other means. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:39:52 PM EDT
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Giving the people what they want, the basic premise of operating a business in a capitalist market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff.
Giving the people what they want, the basic premise of operating a business in a capitalist market. What the people want? No guns or parts can be bought with them. Do you like having to sneak around them? They will hold your money and you can do nothing about it. That's what the people want? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:40:32 PM EDT
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This should become our preferred method. Fuck paypal. Just open up a coinbase account and start buying some or acquire them through other means. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I prefer to use bitcoin. Cheap and you aren't supporting PayPal. This should become our preferred method. Fuck paypal. Just open up a coinbase account and start buying some or acquire them through other means. I'd take monopoly money first. Call me in 6 months. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:48:54 PM EDT
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What the people want? No guns or parts can be bought with them. Do you like having to sneak around them? They will hold your money and you can do nothing about it. That's what the people want? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not put the item number in the description. Paypal has apparently started to Google numbers written in the description. If you Google a Gunbroker item number, Gunbroker will pop up almost immediately. Oh, and when the seller says if you must use Paypal, "I'll send you an invoice", and "Paypal is anti-gun, so the description has to be completely blank", don't go ahead and write the item number in the description anyways. Sellers aren't retarded, it's not hard to cross reference that Billy McGee bought something for $152.95 on GB and one Mr. Billy McGee sent $152.95 through Paypal. Now I get to wait 180 days for Paypal to release my money, luckily I only had $179 in the account at the moment. Fuck Paypal, I don't get why lots of people still insist upon using them to pay for Gun stuff.
Giving the people what they want, the basic premise of operating a business in a capitalist market. What the people want? No guns or parts can be bought with them. Do you like having to sneak around them? They will hold your money and you can do nothing about it. That's what the people want? Yes, that's what they wanted. Some people insist upon using Paypal, either they think it provides extra protection or they were too lazy to grab their CC, but could remember their Paypal ID. Maybe they didn't have a CC or debit card, but could use Paypal with their banks. Don't know why, but they insisted upon paying with Paypal, so I took it. I did not like sneaking around them, and that's how people wanted to pay. Sent a long anti-Paypal rant with payment instructions, they always responded they knew, but it was just easiest for them. Not about what I want, I want to sell my shit for $5 million cash and retire, gotta give the buyers what they want. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 6:58:07 PM EDT
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Are they really anti-gun or are they bound by the laws (CA) in which they operate? They're from Omaha. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 7:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take monopoly money first. Call me in 6 months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I prefer to use bitcoin. Cheap and you aren't supporting PayPal. This should become our preferred method. Fuck paypal. Just open up a coinbase account and start buying some or acquire them through other means. I'd take monopoly money first. Call me in 6 months. |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 7:19:19 PM EDT
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All that and PayPal does not seem to have a problem with someone using their PayPal debit card to buy guns, etc.. Quite OK by me but there seems to be a disconnect somewhere. Paying directly via PayPal is not OK but using the debit card to spend money out of the same account is OK?
On two separate occasions, while I still had my FFL, I bought SKS rifles from SOG using my debit card with no problems. Maybe PayPal is buying into the urban legend BS that one can buy guns straight out through the internet and they think GB is part of the evil process. |
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