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Posted: 6/28/2014 8:27:46 AM EDT
Going through some boxes of old gun rags from the late 80s and early 90s I saw articles about some of these guns.
FN Forty-Nine Star Model 28 Star Ultrastar Browning BDA Walther P88 Steyr GB Colt Double Eagle Browning BDM Colt 2000 Colt Pocket 9 Smith & Wesson Sigma .380 Anyone remember any other handguns that didn't sell well? |
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I had a Walther P-88, it was OK, creepy trigger though.
I still have the Colt Double Eagles, sorta like novelties that work. |
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Going through some boxes of old gun rags from the late 80s and early 90s I saw articles about some of these guns. Smith & Wesson Sigma .380 http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1700/9153981/acfece6.jpg Anyone remember any other handguns that didn't sell well? View Quote |
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For some reason, I always wanted a Steyr GB. I knew a couple people with Stars back then and they always seemed like quality guns.
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I had that Sigma .380 POS.
Needed a hammer and punch to "field strip" for cleaning. Replaced it with a Glock 26 which came out a ferw months after i bought the Sigma .380 |
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My Dad carried a P-88 on duty from the time they released the gun until he as chief switched the department over to Beretta 96's. I still have the gun and shoot it every now and then, it's not bad there just isn't any aftermarket support for it. He carried the gun in a holster meant for a Sig 226.
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Quoted: For some reason, I always wanted a Steyr GB. I knew a couple people with Stars back then and they always seemed like quality guns. View Quote We bought out an estate an among the items was 5 Steyr GB magazines. Sold them one at a time on Gunbroker, average price was $175 EACH. Made some damn good money on that deal, apparently the mags are rare. |
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The Browning BDA name was later reused on a different pistol, which was imported to the US for a short time under the Browning name before becoming much more popular in its real identity.... as the SIG 220.
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The Styer GB is a really good pistol with an interesting gas delayed blowback mechanism.
GB stands for Gas Brake (or whatever it is in Austrian) The barrel is fixed and there is a gas port in the barrel that vents into the slide and dust cover area. The pressure helps keep the slide forward until the bullet is out of the barrel. Styer had a legal dust-up with Rogak that made a poorly functioning knock-off that damaged Styer's reputation. Rogaks were produced in Morton Grove IL, a pussy liberal town that was famous for it's handgun ban. If you want a Styer GB, get a couple mags with it, they're as rare as hens teeth and if you think panic prices on mags were high......
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I've had multiple Walther P88's. I love them. And having said that, shit, I want another!
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My favorite pistol fad from the late 80s / early 90s were all the "reverse two tone" pistols.
Today we think of a two tone pistol as a stainless slide on a black (usually polymer) lower. Back then it was a black / blued slide on a stainless lower. |
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Quoted: We bought out an estate an among the items was 5 Steyr GB magazines. Sold them one at a time on Gunbroker, average price was $175 EACH. Made some damn good money on that deal, apparently the mags are rare. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: For some reason, I always wanted a Steyr GB. I knew a couple people with Stars back then and they always seemed like quality guns. We bought out an estate an among the items was 5 Steyr GB magazines. Sold them one at a time on Gunbroker, average price was $175 EACH. Made some damn good money on that deal, apparently the mags are rare. At the time, GB mags were $150 apiece. The seller wanted $500 for a GB with 3 mags. Best $50 pistol ever!
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Quoted: My favorite pistol fad from the late 80s / early 90s were all the "reverse two tone" pistols. Today we think of a two tone pistol as a stainless slide on a black (usually polymer) lower. Back then it was a black / blued slide on a stainless lower. View Quote What I want next |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had a Walther P-88, it was OK, creepy trigger though. |
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Quoted: Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anything chambered in .41 Action Express. Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. |
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My favorite pistol fad from the late 80s / early 90s were all the "reverse two tone" pistols. Today we think of a two tone pistol as a stainless slide on a black (usually polymer) lower. Back then it was a black / blued slide on a stainless lower. View Quote Those were the original two tone. I still think of the stainless slide, black frame as a reverse two tone. Back then, the idea was that you used a stainless grip frame to minimize corrosion due to sweaty hands and a dark slide to minimize glare along the sight radius. It was also bitchin to have a two tone gun because it was unique. Remember, most of those used traditional bluing which didn't hold up like modern coatings. |
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My favorite pistol fad from the late 80s / early 90s were all the "reverse two tone" pistols. Today we think of a two tone pistol as a stainless slide on a black (usually polymer) lower. Back then it was a black / blued slide on a stainless lower. View Quote Kimbers main page for it's 1911s, how many pictures of two tone pistols are there? And as the other poster mentioned, stainless slide on black lower is reverse two tone. |
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S&W also made the .380acp Sigma blowback gun in 9mm. I remember only seeing one or two of them before S&W dropped them like a hot rock.
There was also the S&W SW45. And whatever model they made in the .357TSW caliber. And what was the model S&W made that was supposed to be their version of the Sig P-210? They filled in the safety holes in the slide with some sort of plugs. A $1000 gun (back then, big money) & they were too GD cheap to use slides specifically for this gun. I actually sold a Colt 2000 to a handicapped guy in a wheelchair. He had CP (I think) & was limited in his hand dexterity. There was also the Walther P5, which ejected the case to the left of the slide instead of the more normal right side. And let's not forget the S&W M-76, a Sten-like design. |
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Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anything chambered in .41 Action Express. Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. How about the .327mag? Federal made the ammo, IIRC? |
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I would love to get a FNS and a Forty-Nine and strip them. See if in fact the FNS is an updated Forty-Nine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That FN Forty-Nine looks alot like the FNS I thought it looked eerily similar to the M&P. It would be interesting to see one taken down if someone has one or can find a pic. |
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View Quote I dry fired one of these once. SOB had something like a 15lb trigger pull! |
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My grandfather had a Browing BDM for his CCW on bank-deposit days.
I asked my Grandma for it when he passed 6 years ago, but she didn't think I was ready for guns. In the mean time I joined the military and worked in testing at 2 separate firearms companies. She gave it to my Aunt right before her husband went off the reservation and now wishes I had gotten it. So far my Aunt has waffled on selling it to me depending on her mood. |
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How about the .327mag? Federal made the ammo, IIRC? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anything chambered in .41 Action Express. Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. How about the .327mag? Federal made the ammo, IIRC? .327 Federal just came out six or seven years ago. |
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Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anything chambered in .41 Action Express. Wow, I hadn't thought about that cartridge in a long time. The .32 H&R magnum was another orphan cartridge of that time period. At least with the .32 H&R, you could shoot .32 S&W Long or even .32 Auto in a pinch. I had a Ruger Single Six in that caliber, one of the few guns I regret selling... |
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Quoted: Those were the original two tone. I still think of the stainless slide, black frame as a reverse two tone. Back then, the idea was that you used a stainless grip frame to minimize corrosion due to sweaty hands and a dark slide to minimize glare along the sight radius. It was also bitchin to have a two tone gun because it was unique. Remember, most of those used traditional bluing which didn't hold up like modern coatings. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My favorite pistol fad from the late 80s / early 90s were all the "reverse two tone" pistols. Today we think of a two tone pistol as a stainless slide on a black (usually polymer) lower. Back then it was a black / blued slide on a stainless lower. Those were the original two tone. I still think of the stainless slide, black frame as a reverse two tone. Back then, the idea was that you used a stainless grip frame to minimize corrosion due to sweaty hands and a dark slide to minimize glare along the sight radius. It was also bitchin to have a two tone gun because it was unique. Remember, most of those used traditional bluing which didn't hold up like modern coatings. |
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