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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator
but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid |
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Quoted: thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote 1/4" works the best. |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. or replacing anything on a new merc mercs are crazy I will never own one |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote The thermostat on my old CTS (3.6L) was on the back of the engine, requiring the intake manifold to be removed, and STIL was almost impossible to get the bolts out due to almost zero clearance with the firewall |
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Quoted: Quoted: thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid 1/4" works the best. It wasn't really that tough , everyone on the net made it out to be some huge whore of a job and the mechanic wanted 3 hours labor to do it The temp sending unit was way tougher, and no one on the various forums said a thing about it , I don't have anysort of 18mm socket with a wire cut out and they saw fit to put it inside of a small "cup" on the side of the engine block , had to use an open end wrench pushed into the cup at nearly 90* to the sending unit . If I had to do it again I would get a cheap 18mm and grind a slot in the side of it |
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I need replace the t-stat on my wife's trailblazer. It's stuck open. Now that it's summer, I said fuck it, i'll do it when it starts to cool down.
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Quoted: thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote |
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Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. I remember changing the plugs on an early 90's Pontiac V6, you had to unbolt motor mounts and rotate the engine to do it. I'm at the point now I'd rather drive a 50's points, condenser and carb vehicle than a new one. At least back then they were designed to be serviced. |
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The thermostat on my old CTS (3.6L) was on the back of the engine, requiring the intake manifold to be removed, and STIL was almost impossible to get the bolts out due to almost zero clearance with the firewall View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid The thermostat on my old CTS (3.6L) was on the back of the engine, requiring the intake manifold to be removed, and STIL was almost impossible to get the bolts out due to almost zero clearance with the firewall The fucking manufacturers don't care anymore, because the entire engine and drive unit is assembled before the car is dropped onto the frame/subframe in the factory. They design the shit with just enough clearance to fit and that's it. It's honestly almost worth investing in some garage space with a body lift nowadays just for all the minor shit. "Oh no, Tstat broke! Might as well unbolt the subframe and transmission and lift the body off, easier than trying to get at in the car!" |
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yep 1/4 drive with about 2 feet of extension It wasn't really that tough , everyone on the net made it out to be some huge whore of a job and the mechanic wanted 3 hours labor to do it The temp sending unit was way tougher, and no one on the various forums said a thing about it , I don't have anysort of 18mm socket with a wire cut out and they saw fit to put it inside of a small "cup" on the side of the engine block , had to use an open end wrench pushed into the cup at nearly 90* to the sending unit . If I had to do it again I would get a cheap 18mm and grind a slot in the side of it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid 1/4" works the best. It wasn't really that tough , everyone on the net made it out to be some huge whore of a job and the mechanic wanted 3 hours labor to do it The temp sending unit was way tougher, and no one on the various forums said a thing about it , I don't have anysort of 18mm socket with a wire cut out and they saw fit to put it inside of a small "cup" on the side of the engine block , had to use an open end wrench pushed into the cup at nearly 90* to the sending unit . If I had to do it again I would get a cheap 18mm and grind a slot in the side of it Well if you go by the service repair book, your suppose to remove the alternator. Also, I bet you didn't need to replace the sensor. |
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They are actually pretty easy to get off. Leave the radiator hose attached and unbolt it from the block. Then pull it to top side of engine and swap it out. Use the rad hose to help line it up with the bolt holes. Replace spring clamp with new screw clamp.
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Dear GM....
Thank you for blackmailing the government into bailing you out with taxpayer money, while knowingly covering up fatal flaws in your product. Which, ironically, will end up costing you a fuckton of settlement money, which I'm sure you'll figure out how to write off as a loss on your taxes or in some other way fuck the taxpayers yet again. |
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Quoted: Well if you go by the service repair book, your suppose to remove the alternator. Also, I bet you didn't need to replace the sensor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid 1/4" works the best. It wasn't really that tough , everyone on the net made it out to be some huge whore of a job and the mechanic wanted 3 hours labor to do it The temp sending unit was way tougher, and no one on the various forums said a thing about it , I don't have anysort of 18mm socket with a wire cut out and they saw fit to put it inside of a small "cup" on the side of the engine block , had to use an open end wrench pushed into the cup at nearly 90* to the sending unit . If I had to do it again I would get a cheap 18mm and grind a slot in the side of it Well if you go by the service repair book, your suppose to remove the alternator. Also, I bet you didn't need to replace the sensor. its only 7 bolts and gave me a good amount of room figured might as well change the sensor as it kept throwing the too cold P0128 code , and I'd be pissed if it was still throwing code after the T stat change |
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The fucking manufacturers don't care anymore, because the entire engine and drive unit is assembled before the car is dropped onto the frame/subframe in the factory. They design the shit with just enough clearance to fit and that's it. It's honestly almost worth investing in some garage space with a body lift nowadays just for all the minor shit. "Oh no, Tstat broke! Might as well unbolt the subframe and transmission and lift the body off, easier than trying to get at in the car!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid The thermostat on my old CTS (3.6L) was on the back of the engine, requiring the intake manifold to be removed, and STIL was almost impossible to get the bolts out due to almost zero clearance with the firewall The fucking manufacturers don't care anymore, because the entire engine and drive unit is assembled before the car is dropped onto the frame/subframe in the factory. They design the shit with just enough clearance to fit and that's it. It's honestly almost worth investing in some garage space with a body lift nowadays just for all the minor shit. "Oh no, Tstat broke! Might as well unbolt the subframe and transmission and lift the body off, easier than trying to get at in the car!" Oh yeah and I forgot to mention, the "correct" way to remove the intake manifold involved removing the windshield wiper arms and cowl. The improvised way was to start the bolt out with a socket / wrench, finish turning it by hand and then hold the bolt up while pulling the manifold assembly out. This procedure was also required for 3 of the spark plugs and ignition coils. My new car has a turbo I4 which if I keep past the lease should be much easier to work on. Plenty of room in the engine bay and everything except the oil filter appears to be much more accessible. That was the one great thing about working on the 3.6L -- it had a top-mounted cartridge oil filter which was very quick and easy to get to for oil changes. Unfortunately it had quite a few bad things to outweigh that overall |
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Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. That is exactly what I have to do this weekend. |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote Consider yourself blessed that you don't have to change the passenger side axle seal on the front diff. ETA, on that note,make sure you fix any front diff leaks right away. They only hold about 2 pints of lube and they burn up quick when they get low. I replaced 3 of them this winter because of no lube. |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote crazy... |
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The fucking manufacturers don't care anymore, because the entire engine and drive unit is assembled before the car is dropped onto the frame/subframe in the factory. They design the shit with just enough clearance to fit and that's it. It's honestly almost worth investing in some garage space with a body lift nowadays just for all the minor shit. "Oh no, Tstat broke! Might as well unbolt the subframe and transmission and lift the body off, easier than trying to get at in the car!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid The thermostat on my old CTS (3.6L) was on the back of the engine, requiring the intake manifold to be removed, and STIL was almost impossible to get the bolts out due to almost zero clearance with the firewall The fucking manufacturers don't care anymore, because the entire engine and drive unit is assembled before the car is dropped onto the frame/subframe in the factory. They design the shit with just enough clearance to fit and that's it. It's honestly almost worth investing in some garage space with a body lift nowadays just for all the minor shit. "Oh no, Tstat broke! Might as well unbolt the subframe and transmission and lift the body off, easier than trying to get at in the car!" have to do that with some ford trucks with diesels in them danm cylinder head bolts ....... |
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I've been wrenching on a 2002 Ford Escort for the past couple days.
Alternator, battery, spark plugs. The engine compartment is one of the most retarded clusterfucks I have ever seen. The fuel pump needs to be replaced too, but that's easy. You just pull the back seat off by lifting it up, pop off 4 screws and you're there. Why did they get the fuel pump access right, yet the alternator is buried under a coolant hose with a 90* elbow in the middle, snugged up against the power steering fluid hose, and shoved up against the body? Fucking automotive engineers have lost their touch. My old 96 Ram 1500 I had was simple. You propped the hood open, climbed in, and sat on the fender when you needed to work on something up top, or crawled underneath for the bottom stuff. My 94 Lincoln is a little cramped compared to the Ram, but I can still get to everything without removing pieces of the engine |
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I had to change the starter on my wife's Acura RDX, which required removing both the top mounted intercooler and intake manifold, plus the radiator fans, to get to. Granted a thermost at should be much easier to get to but it was the first starter I couldn't change from below the car.
Also, it's quite apparent nearly nobody who owns an Acura RDX actually works on their vehicle themselves so I had no real instructions to go off of. Usually import parts layout so is well thought out. Not this time. |
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Quoted: They are actually pretty easy to get off. Leave the radiator hose attached and unbolt it from the block. Then pull it to top side of engine and swap it out. Use the rad hose to help line it up with the bolt holes. Replace spring clamp with new screw clamp. View Quote Silence! Don't you see that people are bitching here! |
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They are actually pretty easy to get off. Leave the radiator hose attached and unbolt it from the block. Then pull it to top side of engine and swap it out. Use the rad hose to help line it up with the bolt holes. Replace spring clamp with new screw clamp. Silence! Don't you see that people are bitching here! Sorry about that. I hate to see people spend more time than needed. |
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Quoted: That is what you get for buying GM View Quote However I buy my Toyotas new , as I will not pay the Toyota/Honda Kool Aid Stupidity Tax on used couple examples http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1546753_.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1602277_.html That said wife wanted a SUV and we had saved about 10K +/- a new 30K vehicle was out of the question After looking for about a month on CL and auto trader a pattern seemed to emerge Trailblazer/Liberty etc Owned by a nice middle class couple Full service History Clean , good rubber 70-100K miles $7-11K CRV/Highlander etc Owned by a family in a shitty area that has to have their 8 year old translate No service history , no current plates , jumped/open and or salvage title ( none of which was disclosed in the ad) Slightly beat condition , bald tires 150K-250K miles $9-12K Found a very clean Trailblazer with 85K for $7K so far so good except the thermostat |
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid View Quote I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. |
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Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. many newer engines have the intake over the spark plugs. My Nissan 4 1.8L willl need to have the upper intake remove when I do the plugs...rather easy. |
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Barak and the UAW thank you for your support.
Now go out and see a movie! |
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I remember changing the plugs on an early 90's Pontiac V6, you had to unbolt motor mounts and rotate the engine to do it. I'm at the point now I'd rather drive a 50's points, condenser and carb vehicle than a new one. At least back then they were designed to be serviced. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid Wait until you try to change the spark plugs on a newish V6 in a chrysler.... Yup... remove intake manifold and all associated throttle connections. I remember changing the plugs on an early 90's Pontiac V6, you had to unbolt motor mounts and rotate the engine to do it. I'm at the point now I'd rather drive a 50's points, condenser and carb vehicle than a new one. At least back then they were designed to be serviced. And they had to be serviced every 10k miles if you wanted it to run right. Damn, them glasses sure have some fine rose tinted lenses. |
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View Quote Lol, what a pile of disappointment those are. Best looking, slowest moving Turbo car that I've ever had the chance to drive. Silver lining: You can fix everything by removing that lump, putting it in the trashcan next to your AK and Mother Fucker the tortoise (R.I.P), and dropping in a 4G63. |
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I've been wrenching on a 2002 Ford Escort for the past couple days. The fuel pump needs to be replaced too, but that's easy. You just pull the back seat off by lifting it up, pop off 4 screws and you're there. View Quote Considering Ford in that era, I'm shocked that they didn't eliminate the access panel and screws for a cost save and leave you having to drop the tank or cut through the floorpan to access it. |
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I still cannot comprehend the logic of the horizontally mounted oil filter in Ford 4.6L pickups. Ford should have kept it traditionally mounted and oriented like on the 289, or the 5.3L Vortec in Chevy/GM. BMW is kind enough to put the cartridge housing right in the top front of the engine where you can easily get to it and not spill any oil when changing the cartridge.
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I'll thank them for putting the distributor under the water pump on the LT1. And for using an aluminum accessory frame on that same engine when installed in a 4200 lb Caprice. And for not being able to make a cruise control that works to save their life. Oh, and for sucking from the taxpayer's tit.
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Quoted: Lol, what a pile of disappointment those are. Best looking, slowest moving Turbo car that I've ever had the chance to drive.
Silver lining: You can fix everything by removing that lump, putting it in the trashcan next to your AK and Mother Fucker the tortoise (R.I.P), and dropping in a 4G63. View Quote MotherFucker's not been picked up yet? He's starting to smell. He was cooking under a heat lamp for a bit. |
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Quoted: I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. odd considering we had a Grand Am and a 442 in the family |
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I'll thank them for putting the distributor under the water pump on the LT1. And for using an aluminum accessory frame on that same engine when installed in a 4200 lb Caprice. And for not being able to make a cruise control that works to save their life. Oh, and for sucking from the taxpayer's tit. View Quote Opti-spark sucked....but it was a breeze to replace. |
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Quoted: Opti-spark sucked....but it was a breeze to replace. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'll thank them for putting the distributor under the water pump on the LT1. And for using an aluminum accessory frame on that same engine when installed in a 4200 lb Caprice. And for not being able to make a cruise control that works to save their life. Oh, and for sucking from the taxpayer's tit. Opti-spark sucked....but it was a breeze to replace. |
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Do a starter on a Toyota/Lexus V8. They put it where! http://i61.tinypic.com/23vg779.jpg My dad has a V8 Tundra. Aw fuck. |
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I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. I forgot about those. At least the exhaust manifold bolts never broke off in the head. |
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I forgot about those. At least the exhaust manifold bolts never broke off in the head. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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thermostat on a 4.2L I6 behind/under the alternator but real non sarcastic thanks to the trail blazer forum showing me how to get at it via the wheelwell with about 20" of ratchet extension That said at least it wasn't under the intake manifold or something REALLY stupid I take it you've never done a t-state on a Quad 4. I forgot about those. At least the exhaust manifold bolts never broke off in the head. Like Nissan V-6's? |
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Just do like the diesel guys, pull the cab and transmission, then you've got plenty of room.
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