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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:33:38 PM EDT
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It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. Why are you still holding the door open? |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:34:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:35:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Dick punch.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:38:23 PM EDT
[#4]
"It won't do you any good. Cash register is off and the cops are getting called."
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:40:16 PM EDT
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Getting cops involved asap is probably the option least likely to result in you being harmed and potentially getting fired for laying hands on someone.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:41:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:43:45 PM EDT
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Lock him in call the police
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:43:53 PM EDT
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Wasnt me. Was another "you're not gonna fucking believe this" story. Guy grabbed the dude and shoved him back cause apparently the kid closed distance really quick. Kid came back to reality quick and apologized. Even in NY I'd think the store owner is on the correct side of the law.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:44:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:45:21 PM EDT
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It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. If someone is forcing their way into a closed business I'm going to assume their intentions are armed robbery or worse. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:47:36 PM EDT
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I'd have grabbed him by his shirt, and thrown him back out.
You can use reasonable force to remove someone from your business, especially since you already told him no. After you tell him no, and he still enters, he's trespassing. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:47:38 PM EDT
[#12]
He would have been abruptly educated.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:48:02 PM EDT
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After multiple ferocious ass rapes on him.
He will be certain of my dominance over him and he will stand down like a bitch. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:49:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:50:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:50:17 PM EDT
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20 mikes Past closing? GTFO of my store. We've been opened for 12 fucking hours..too bad so sad.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:50:17 PM EDT
[#17]
This is your family's restaurant, right? You have lots of shitty customer stories. Is the area that full of crappy people?
If he checked me after I told him no, first thing would be a 911 call for criminal trespass or whatever the call is in your neck of the woods. No sense going hands on if you don't have to. Edit: saw it wasn't you, but a buddy. Same advice though. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is your family's restaurant, right? You have lots of shitty customer stories. Is the area that full of crappy people? |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:53:41 PM EDT
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Tell Zed to go wake up the gimp.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:53:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wasn't my family's biz. Not a crappy area but a lot of spoiled people who think the world revolves around them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is your family's restaurant, right? You have lots of shitty customer stories. Is the area that full of crappy people? I edited my reply above. Sounds like a college town. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:56:31 PM EDT
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Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ?
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:58:26 PM EDT
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if he's attempting to enter, physical force is completely appropriate (at least in TX). if it was just the supervisor, then it would be ejection. but if you have employees walking out, the supervisor has a duty not to let a threat run around while they're getting into their cars. at that point, it's a tackle and restrain, while telling anyone within earshot to put in a 911 call.
have had extensive experience with this.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:59:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI would like to caption that if I may . . . . . . . The referee: "You're out of there!! . . . . Good Job. . . . . HE wins." |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:00:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ? misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:00:24 PM EDT
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It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. Push him the fuck away and slam the door in his face. If he makes another attempt, I would clock him square in the nose. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:03:32 PM EDT
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Stand your ground?
Just kidding |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:03:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ? misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel.  |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:04:35 PM EDT
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I used to be security/bouncer at a biker bar in Daytona Beach. Never had a problem with any of the bikers, only drunk tourists who though wielding a pool cue was the appropriate way to get attention from a beer girl.
He got attention, but not from the beer girl. I was never a fighter, I am not a badass. But when a dozen or so of the local bikers got your back, life is good. 
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:05:21 PM EDT
[#29]
do you even blade bro?
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ? misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel. that's a good assessment. businesses are so risk-averse nowadays that employees are taught to be completely non-confrontational in order to avoid liability. aggressor might have assumed that was the dynamic.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ? |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to be security/bouncer at a biker bar in Daytona Beach. Never had a problem with any of the bikers, only drunk tourists who though wielding a pool cue was the appropriate way to get attention from a beer girl. I've noticed that too, not that I'm a bouncer or anything but I get the impression the people who are lowest on the food chain start more problems than those on the top.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:10:49 PM EDT
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Probably put the heel of my hand under his chin and pushed up. They walk out from under their center.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:11:02 PM EDT
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He would not have gotten past me. And he would have heard a loud voice.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:11:05 PM EDT
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It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. Punch to the solar plexus. It will put him down without any lasting injury. It won't even leave a bruise. Roll him back outside while he's trying to catch his breath. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Dick punch.  ............
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably put the heel of my hand under his chin and pushed up. They walk out from under their center.  |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:16:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did this throw your hands up and say you can't touch me come from ? misguided sense of what a business operator is authorized to do in order to protect his establishment and personnel. Or the fact that many large retailers have a policy of no physical contact between employees and shitbags. Throw their ass out and explain the difference between company policy and law. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do little twerps always start shit on a higher rate? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: guys like that are worried about being invisible. as long as they're getting positive attention, they're fine. but if they're being ignored or trivialized, their insecurity kicks in and they feel the need to 'prove themselves'. the prevailing thought is "i can take that guy", followed by a survey of who might be watching. this is orders of magnitude worse when women are in the audience. if you're paying attention, you can actually watch the inner monologue playing out on a little guy's face. part of the art of working security is noticing this before it hits a flashpoint. that's when you go over and strike up a friendly conversation. this will either defuse the situation or cause the guy to start verbalizing his aggressive thoughts. if the former, great. if the latter, it's time for him to go. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:23:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Call the Po Po.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:24:01 PM EDT
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If this happened after closing time, why would you open the door? Where I worked part time, I was the closing person and when the last employee left, the front door got locked and unless you had a key you were not getting in. This saves a lot of headaches. There were times that people would come to the door for something and I would tell them to come back tomorrow or find someone else that would help them. At no time would/did I unlock the door.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:25:46 PM EDT
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Yeah makes sense. Almost every bad situations ive had at work there always seems to be a woman or two involved the guy or guys is trying to impress. Then throw alcohol and under 30 years old into the mix and a spark will ignite it.
"Quoted: part of the art of working security is noticing this before it hits a flashpoint." I wish I were a bigger dude as I think it would be interesting being a bouncer. Human aggression / ego etc has always fascinated / terrified me. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:29:39 PM EDT
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"It won't do you any good. Cash register is off and the cops are getting called." |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:49:12 PM EDT
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Locks door... " now you's can't leave."
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:52:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Locks door... " now you's can't leave." |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that like kidnapping? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Locks door... " now you's can't leave." |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It how we handle these "situations" in the Bronx. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Locks door... " now you's can't leave." |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:20:22 PM EDT
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Hit him with the parking lot
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:21:42 PM EDT
[#49]
I would have dialed andrew cuomo.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If someone is forcing their way into a closed business I'm going to assume their intentions are armed robbery or worse. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's 20 minutes past closing at a retail biz. As you're letting employees out the front door some dude in his late teens early twenties asks if he can come in. He is told I'm sorry no. Tries to reason with you and gets a no again. Then he throws his hands up in the air and holds them there goes "you can't touch me" and tries to like hip check / squeeze his way past you as your standing in the front door. If someone is forcing their way into a closed business I'm going to assume their intentions are armed robbery or worse. pretty much this you are telling ME i can't touch you when your charging at me? guess again fuckstain... ima' touch you in all sorts of painful ways.. get fucked pally
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