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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:51:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Hmmm. It's like which limb you'd rather lose.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:52:37 AM EDT
[#2]
Both owned by the same parent company so....
 Pick whatever looks best to you for a rollmark on the lower |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:55:53 AM EDT
[#3]
Get both.
Or really, build a PSA for the same money. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:55:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Of the two choices listed, neither Windham Weaponry is a good choice |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:56:01 AM EDT
[#5]
My department issues Bushmasters, we haven't had but a few problems here and there. I think those can be probably be attributed to the mags we issue.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:59:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Upper 290 (no CH or BCG)
Complete Lower 150 Leaving you 210 for a BCG a CH and a rear sight based on the 650 pricing you gave in OP |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:00:33 AM EDT
[#7]
umm, same damn gun IIRC.
I know the 308s are the same gun. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:02:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Windham.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:04:24 AM EDT
[#9]
You can build better, cheaper
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:05:55 AM EDT
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Upper 290 (no CH or BCG) Complete Lower 150 Leaving you 210 for a BCG a CH and a rear sight based on the 650 pricing you gave in OP Cool. Thanks for the links. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:08:01 AM EDT
[#11]
at those prices, why not buy a lot of both and sell them during the next panic, they are practically giving those away
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:09:25 AM EDT
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Cool. Thanks for the links. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Upper 290 (no CH or BCG) Complete Lower 150 Leaving you 210 for a BCG a CH and a rear sight based on the 650 pricing you gave in OP Cool. Thanks for the links. or this Everything but lower 480 And find a lower you like locally (if the price is right and not having to pay a transfer) and no problem |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:13:48 AM EDT
[#13]
I'd buy a Rock River Arms or a Windham AR before your choices.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:14:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: or this Everything but lower 480 And find a lower you like locally (if the price is right and not having to pay a transfer) and no problem Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Upper 290 (no CH or BCG) Complete Lower 150 Leaving you 210 for a BCG a CH and a rear sight based on the 650 pricing you gave in OP Cool. Thanks for the links. or this Everything but lower 480 And find a lower you like locally (if the price is right and not having to pay a transfer) and no problem |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:16:05 AM EDT
[#15]
Well both of this you will need some sort of sights or optic so plan another $150 for that, to get something decent. Even with BUIS sights you will need a metal front sight due to the gas block mounting.
I would go the PSA route. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:19:44 AM EDT
[#16]
Either. For a cheap gun, cheaper is better. But a gun in hand is the best gun. So whatever is in stock for cheap, and shipping immediately.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:21:50 AM EDT
[#17]
Bushmaster. Mine has only 2 failures to feed due to mags and 2 failures to extract (Tulammo) over the course of 3500 rounds in the past 20 months.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:26:10 AM EDT
[#18]
$150 difference to spend on sights, it's a no brainer.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:33:22 AM EDT
[#19]
of those two, only the Bushmaster lists a chrome-lined barrel.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:30:51 PM EDT
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Bushmaster. Mine has only 2 failures to feed due to mags and 2 failures to extract (Tulammo) over the course of 3500 rounds in the past 20 months. Yep. The AR I have now is a Bushmaster M4A3 Patrolman. I bought it right as the panic started and overpaid, but not as bad as some. I've never had an issue with it, but I haven't shot anywhere near 3500 rounds through it yet. Every time I've pulled the trigger it's gone bang and fairly accurately too considering my mediocre shooting skills. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of the two choices listed, neither Windham Weaponry is a good choice ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:54:04 PM EDT
[#22]
+1 on PSA.
Of all the ARs i've seen people use, I've personally witnessed 3 failures that were not magazine or ammo related. 2 were bushmaster and 1 was a dpms. Whether it was user negligence that caused it, i'm not sure, but I wouldnt trust my life to any of them. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:54:38 PM EDT
[#23]
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[div style='text-align: left;']Windham Weaponry is a good choice Lol its still Bushmaster isnt it? ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO Quote HistoryQuoted:
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[div style='text-align: left;']Of the two choices listed, neither [div style='text-align: left;']Windham Weaponry is a good choice Lol its still Bushmaster isnt it? ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO 
Bushmaster was bought out, and moved to NY. Windham Weaponry are the original Bushmaster guys. They bought the old plant and hired back the old employees. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:57:47 PM EDT
[#24]
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ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? Purple anodizing. Canted and off-set front sight posts. Lugs breaking off of bolts. DPMS. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 1:58:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Of the two, I'd urge the Bushmaster.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 2:03:10 PM EDT
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Purple anodizing. Canted and off-set front sight posts. Lugs breaking off of bolts. DPMS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? Purple anodizing. Canted and off-set front sight posts. Lugs breaking off of bolts. DPMS. It happens with a lot of the "tier 1" brands too, Bushmaster and DPMS are not the only ones. Ask Ankratz about his BCM with canted sights. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 2:35:18 PM EDT
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Besides all of the COLT ARs that I own. The only one other AR in the collection, is a pre-ban Bushmaster.
Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:40:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bushmaster was bought out, and moved to NY. Windham Weaponry are the original Bushmaster guys. They bought the old plant and hired back the old employees. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:44:53 PM EDT
[#29]
I am going to agree with the "build your own" crowd. Shop around and you can find everything you need for the price you are willing to pay.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:59:30 PM EDT
[#30]
There is ZERO wrong with the lowers...Knowing this, buy the cheaper one then buy a decent BCM upper.... Or scrap that deal & buy a decent lower for $200 & then buy a BCM upper.
I have had both brands, ran both hard & dirty & never failed on me using decent ammo, not wolf crap. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:04:28 PM EDT
[#31]
S&W has a version in that price range.
http://grabagun.com/catalog/product/view/id/11888/category/70/ |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:11:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Go PSA w a 1-7 twist.
I'm still pissed at Bushmaster for the Masada debacle. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:14:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
[div style='text-align: left;']Windham Weaponry is a good choice Lol its still Bushmaster isnt it? ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO Quote HistoryQuoted:
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[div style='text-align: left;']Of the two choices listed, neither [div style='text-align: left;']Windham Weaponry is a good choice Lol its still Bushmaster isnt it? ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO Everyone knows a bullet is only capable of killing you if it was shot from a rifle that cost $2000. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:22:11 PM EDT
[#34]
All of the choices are better than a Mini14.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:23:09 PM EDT
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Everyone knows a bullet is only capable of killing you if it was shot from a rifle that cost $2000. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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[div style='text-align: left;']Of the two choices listed, neither [div style='text-align: left;']Windham Weaponry is a good choice Lol its still Bushmaster isnt it? ETA I dont get the BM hate around here. Fkn lemmings sucking down the latest fads. I remember when BM was one of the most highly recommended rifles on Arfcom lol. What happened to them? Why all the BM hate? 5 yrs ago Arfcom "Just buy the ABC's ARmalite, Bushmaster or Colt" LMFAO Everyone knows a bullet is only capable of killing you if it was shot from a rifle that cost $2000. 
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:23:52 PM EDT
[#36]
You can build a good PSA with a high quality barrel for $500 or less. Mine came out to $400 or so, without chasing deals, or doing more than assembling a lower.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 4:30:43 PM EDT
[#37]
cant speak much about DPMS except their parts kits work. I have 2 Bushmaster uppers and no issues with either
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