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Let them suffer the same way the rest of us do. They don't deserve special protections just because they're gay.
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee.
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If I was a chick, I would choose to be a lesbo, too. Because titties.
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Why should the joys of divorce only be enjoyed by us straight folks?
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. View Quote So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. |
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If I was a chick, I would choose to be a lesbo, too. Because titties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No shit. Id be slapping my own tits around all fucking day. I would need a work-from-home job, so my career didnt interfere with my titty slapping. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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If I was a chick, I would choose to be a lesbo, too. Because titties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No shit. Id be slapping my own tits around all fucking day. I would need a work-from-home job, so my career didnt interfere with my titty slapping. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Webcam = work from home titty slapping job. |
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If I was a chick, I would choose to be a lesbo, too. Because titties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No shit. Id be slapping my own tits around all fucking day. I would need a work-from-home job, so my career didnt interfere with my titty slapping. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Webcam = work from home titty slapping job. Sonofabitch, you are onto something! That sir, is genius. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. As far as the .gov goes, there should only be "civil unions". |
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This is how I feel if they can find a church willing to marry them let it happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. Yep |
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If I was a chick, I would choose to be a lesbo, too. Because titties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No shit. Id be slapping my own tits around all fucking day. I would need a work-from-home job, so my career didnt interfere with my titty slapping. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Webcam = work from home titty slapping job. I know that web site ... I haven't been over there in a while, I'm going to go over there and do some research on this subject so I can speak more intelligently about it here. Be back in a few.. |
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Get married....I don't give a shit.
But call it something different....."marriage" is already defined. You're cheapening my shit. |
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. View Quote Well, marriage used to be a matter of significant public interest, back when parents actually had to be responsible for their progeny. Now, however, it doesn't seem to matter in many cases, since .gov will just take over if baby-daddy isn't available or has too many kids with too many women to support them all. __________________________________________________________________ Cross-platform electronic bound book (original thread). PGP public key. «nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus» |
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So one group of children wants to feel special by having the title of marriage bestowed on them, and get mad when another group wants to have that title too.
Children vs children. |
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Get married....I don't give a shit. But call it something different....."marriage" is already defined. You're cheapening my shit. View Quote I'm on your side and have wrestled with this, but the drive through Vegas marriages and celebrity "marriages" doesn't help us in the "cheapening." |
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So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. I would argue that a legal contract is a civil union, and a marriage is a religious covenant. the two should be different, and there should be no government benefit or penalty for a religious covenant. |
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So one group of children wants to feel special by having the title of marriage bestowed on them, and get mad when another group wants to have that title too. Children vs children. View Quote Because marriage in western culture has historically been a mechanism for legitimizing the Inheritance of property from parent to child and codifying rights and responsibilities w/in the family unit w/ regards to a man, woman and children relationship. As such, it is by its nature not applicable to same sex relationships. If a civil contract granting certain benefits and duties to people outside of a traditional marriage is beneficial and warranted, why link it to sex at all. Why should people outside of a committed emotional or sexual relationship be denied certain benefits. |
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Quoted: Let them suffer the same way the rest of us do. They don't deserve special protections just because they're gay. View Quote |
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I still don't get it. Nobody has said gays can't marry someone of the opposite sex. That would actually be discrimination....
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I would argue that a legal contract is a civil union, and a marriage is a religious covenant. the two should be different, and there should be no government benefit or penalty for a religious covenant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My issue is the government should have no say in marraige. Marraige is a religious covenant and it should be up to the particular church, temple, mosque, or teepee. So what about those of us that have no use for the church or organized religion? Does the state get to step in then or should the church be forced to do it? As far as I am concerned marriage is a legal contract, not a religious covenant. I would argue that a legal contract is a civil union, and a marriage is a religious covenant. the two should be different, and there should be no government benefit or penalty for a religious covenant. Thats all well and good, as long as a church marriage is separate from the government, no tax breaks or any other .gov benefits. Maybe everyone should have a CU to cover the legal aspect and those who wish can also have a separate church wedding to get right with whatever god they need to please. |
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So one group of children wants to feel special by having the title of marriage bestowed on them, and get mad when another group wants to have that title too. Children vs children. View Quote Your premise contains your conclusion. That is the logical fallacy of begging the question. |
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I'm on your side and have wrestled with this, but the drive through Vegas marriages and celebrity "marriages" doesn't help us in the "cheapening." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Get married....I don't give a shit. But call it something different....."marriage" is already defined. You're cheapening my shit. I'm on your side and have wrestled with this, but the drive through Vegas marriages and celebrity "marriages" doesn't help us in the "cheapening." Exactly. Marriage was destroyed by the heteros way before the gays got interested. |
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everybody should have the right to be unhappy and not get any.
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No people are born assholes cunt. Someone should follow her around with an I was born a racist sign.
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Gays can get married. Lots of gays from my highschool got married, had a wedding and everything.
The question is whether or not the government should acknowledge the marriage. I haven't heard a single argument for this. I'm honestly undecided, I would like to hear the pro-gay reasons why they should be recognized, as opposed to "why do you care what they do in the bedroom" type argument. I'm also curious as to whether this would open the door for people to marry dogs next. Man's best friend and all. |
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Gays can get married. Lots of gays from my highschool got married, had a wedding and everything. The question is whether or not the government should acknowledge the marriage. I haven't heard a single argument for this. I'm honestly undecided, I would like to hear the pro-gay reasons why they should be recognized, as opposed to "why do you care what they do in the bedroom" type argument. I'm also curious as to whether this would open the door for people to marry dogs next. Man's best friend and all. View Quote The "pro-gay" reasons that "gay marriage" should be recognized have to do with things like rights of survivorship and the shit-ton of laws that use the words "spouse" and "married". The only reason that gay people aren't in favor of just having the government recognize "civil unions" has to do with the language of existing laws. "Civil union" is not mentioned as much. Getting "gay marriage" recognized is seen as a protection from a spouse being denied a benefit or being excluded from insurance because the policy says "married" not "civil union". In fact all marriages that involve a marriage license and a ceremony performed by an ordained (certified by the state) minister or judge are really civil unions. Whether the ceremony took place in a church or had a religious ceremony associated with it is of no consequence of the state, they really don't care. But if you don't have that license in many places, you aren't married (sometimes common law marriage does take effect after a length of cohabitation). I see the argument against gay marriage as religious bigotry thinly veiled as a semantic misunderstanding. |
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