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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:44:26 PM EDT
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Why, no, Officer. Why would we do that, sir?
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:44:46 PM EDT
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Fore grip would be a problem without some paperwork.
Also.... prepare for ear bleeding. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:45:02 PM EDT
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Foregrip makes it NFA
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:45:09 PM EDT
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Makes my ears bleed just thinking about it. Get a good 45ACP pistol.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:45:27 PM EDT
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Well, if you don't hit anything at least the muzzle blast will stun everyone in the house!
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:45:35 PM EDT
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Build one around this
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:45:57 PM EDT
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I have been toying with idea of getting a AR pistol to keep for home defence. My house is a lot of doorways and hallways. It would be tough to clear and navigate with my full size AR. I like the thought of the mobility of a pistol with the round size and capacity of an AR. Add a light and maybe a fore grip. Anyone do this? Recommend brands? So.... um tax-stamp to go with it? and. NO... concussion like a mofo indoors. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:46:36 PM EDT
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Foregrip makes it NFA Use a Magpul AFG and your good to go. Get a SIG arm brace and I think you've got a nice setup for not going the Form 1 SBR route. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:47:12 PM EDT
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Not without a suppressor, which gets you back to the original length of a carbine.
I use a 8" 300 blackout with YHM titanium 762 around the house. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:47:19 PM EDT
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Build one around this http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZeFqNBQizfkeRYaRXuCWUHzrC_NywtRh6SDeqp54FeA-UV1_b9w If I could afford that, I would just get my stamp. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:47:46 PM EDT
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AR pistols suck. Just get a stamp.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:48:04 PM EDT
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I keep one next to the bed. No foregrip on mine, but an AFG would be legal. Light and a micro dot with some backup sights and its good to go.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:49:01 PM EDT
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I use my 10.5" with AFG for the same thing.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:49:04 PM EDT
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They simply aren't loud enough for home defense. You should buy one and install a mini-y-comp.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:49:54 PM EDT
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AR pistol is just a bad ideal all the way around. About the only thing they are good for, is holding your short barrel until the NFA stamp arrives.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:50:31 PM EDT
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Angled foregrip is gtg
Put on a flaming pig and direct the hate at the intruder. It will fuck your night vision like a strobelight though. My 10.5 is my new HD gun 
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:50:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR pistol is just a bad ideal all the way around. About the only thing they are good for, is holding your short barrel until the NFA stamp arrives.  |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:52:45 PM EDT
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I have been toying with idea of getting a AR pistol to keep for home defence. My house is a lot of doorways and hallways. It would be tough to clear and navigate with my full size AR. I like the thought of the mobility of a pistol with the round size and capacity of an AR. Add a light and maybe a fore grip. Anyone do this? Recommend brands? I'd recommend something else, like a Sub2000 or a CX4... but ultimately, an AR pistol wouldn't be that bad if you stamped it and put a real stock on it. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:53:38 PM EDT
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If I could afford that, I would just get my stamp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Build one around this http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZeFqNBQizfkeRYaRXuCWUHzrC_NywtRh6SDeqp54FeA-UV1_b9w If I could afford that, I would just get my stamp. The stamp will take close to a year to get, and with the brace you're not on an NFA list…. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:54:05 PM EDT
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Build one around this http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZeFqNBQizfkeRYaRXuCWUHzrC_NywtRh6SDeqp54FeA-UV1_b9w This plus 300 blackout + subs + pistol can = honey badger clone. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:55:22 PM EDT
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AR pistol is just a bad ideal all the way around. About the only thing they are good for, is holding your short barrel until the NFA stamp arrives. That would be the end goal. Build on it while I save for the stamp and wail for it. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:57:00 PM EDT
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Build one around this http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZeFqNBQizfkeRYaRXuCWUHzrC_NywtRh6SDeqp54FeA-UV1_b9w I had a 12.5 inch LMT MRP piston setup with the SIG brace and AFG. She laid next to my bed side and was ready to take the head off of any urban youth that decided to rob my place. Alas, she was lost in a tragic boating accident. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:58:04 PM EDT
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Nothing makes my loins pulse like the thought of lighting off unsuppressed 5.56 rounds out of a short barrel... indoors.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 12:58:48 PM EDT
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Foregrip makes it NFA Not if the overall length is greater than 26" - it isn't a pistol, just a "firearm" in the eyes of the BATF. This doable with an 10.5" - 11" barrel, IIRC. But a 16" barrel carbine is only about 6" longer and can have a foregrip and real buttstock. And a 14.5" barrel with permanent flashhider is even shorter. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:00:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing makes my loins pulse like the thought of lighting off unsuppressed 5.56 rounds out of a short barrel... indoors. Meh. Auditory exclusion. I may be deaf, but at least it didn't hurt.
 I know that shit kicks in on me. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:02:07 PM EDT
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Meh. Auditory exclusion. I may be deaf, but at least it didn't hurt. I know that shit kicks in on me.
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Nothing makes my loins pulse like the thought of lighting off unsuppressed 5.56 rounds out of a short barrel... indoors. Meh. Auditory exclusion. I may be deaf, but at least it didn't hurt. I know that shit kicks in on me.
I think you would be unpleasantly surprised. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:06:11 PM EDT
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Anyone saying no own a pistol? The missing stock isn't even an issue at 20yds+.
In a 13x22 living room it would be no louder than a 12gauge and you don't have to pump to chamber the next 4 rounds. You have 29 more at your fingertip. Forced entry? Light em up. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you would be unpleasantly surprised. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nothing makes my loins pulse like the thought of lighting off unsuppressed 5.56 rounds out of a short barrel... indoors. Meh. Auditory exclusion. I may be deaf, but at least it didn't hurt. I know that shit kicks in on me.I think you would be unpleasantly surprised. Happened multiple times in afg. Didn't happen a couple times and it hurt. I'm already half deaf, I'll clinch my teeth and hope it kicks in if I have to shoot someone in my home.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:11:34 PM EDT
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I built one in 9mm for my wife for home defense. Attached a light, flaming pig, and a T-1. I set up a course of fire for her to clear with her .380 handgun (which she does practice with) and the AR pistol, which she had never touched. The AR took her half the time with half a dozen fewer misses. My only concern is reliability, but no FTF or FTE so far.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:17:00 PM EDT
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My house is a lot of doorways and hallways. It would be tough to clear and navigate with my full size AR. You asked for advice. Here's some good advice. If you believe what you wrote, use your money to get some professional training. You need that a lot more than an AR pistol. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:25:01 PM EDT
[#31]
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I have been toying with idea of getting a AR pistol to keep for home defence. My house is a lot of doorways and hallways. It would be tough to clear and navigate with my full size AR. I like the thought of the mobility of a pistol with the round size and capacity of an AR. Add a light and maybe a fore grip. Anyone do this? Recommend brands? ^^^^dont do this without a tax stamp^^^^ |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:28:31 PM EDT
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^^^^dont do this without a tax stamp^^^^ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have been toying with idea of getting a AR pistol to keep for home defence. My house is a lot of doorways and hallways. It would be tough to clear and navigate with my full size AR. I like the thought of the mobility of a pistol with the round size and capacity of an AR. Add a light and maybe a fore grip. Anyone do this? Recommend brands? ^^^^dont do this without a tax stamp^^^^ A magpul AFG is legal |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 1:32:38 PM EDT
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I'm working on a 20" pencil bbl HD AR. I'm on a velocity kick lately.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:05:33 PM EDT
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if your pistol is over 26" OAL, you can have a fore grip...that usually only happens with 11.5" barrels..
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:21:18 PM EDT
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AR pistol is just a bad ideal all the way around. About the only thing they are good for, is holding your short barrel until the NFA stamp arrives.
I don't get the pistol hate but if you get a stamp and throw a stock its the best thing since sliced bread. I just built this this weekend and the brace is more solid and less wobbly than a standard gi stock once I get the rounds through it to prove its reliable you better believe this is gonna be my goto hd gun. Plus we camp in bordering states occasionally and I can take it along with out the headache of the stamp issue win win in my book 
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:24:00 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol hate Go run an AR pistol against an SBR with a shot timer. Report back. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:26:49 PM EDT
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Go run an AR pistol against an SBR with a shot timer. Report back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't get the pistol hate Go run an AR pistol against an SBR with a shot timer. Report back. I'm not racing the clock to kill home intruders |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:27:39 PM EDT
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Makes my ears bleed just thinking about it. Get a good 45ACP pistol. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:27:41 PM EDT
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Nothing makes my loins pulse like the thought of lighting off unsuppressed 5.56 rounds out of a short barrel... indoors. I recently got a Keltec PLR-16 and toyed with the HD idea. Then I shot it at an indoor range. 
I'll stick with my double barrel shotgun for now.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:29:18 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol hate Go run an AR pistol against an SBR with a shot timer. Report back. I'm not racing the clock to kill home intruders An AR SBR is more useful, faster, better, and better. It's so much better I had to say it twice. THAT is what that little shot timer proves. Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:31:10 PM EDT
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An AR SBR is more useful, faster, better, and better. It's so much better I had to say it twice. THAT is what that little shot timer proves. Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't get the pistol hate Go run an AR pistol against an SBR with a shot timer. Report back. I'm not racing the clock to kill home intruders An AR SBR is more useful, faster, better, and better. It's so much better I had to say it twice. THAT is what that little shot timer proves. Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey. I'm listening. Does the sig brace compare to a legit stock'd SBR? |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:32:57 PM EDT
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I'm listening. Does the sig brace compare to a legit stock'd SBR? Dunno, but that'd be an interesting comparison to run. I don't have one of the braces, nor do I know anyone with one, so I can't run it. A good test, though. Problem is, you're almost all the way to the stamp cost at that point. Granted, the wait is killer. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:33:06 PM EDT
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OP, I hope you have a suppressor, and if you don't you should just practice saying "WHUT? " now.
Unless I were living in Somalia, an AR anything would be my last choice for HD. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:36:09 PM EDT
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Why not a bullpup? AUG or Tavor, all the goodness of a full size bbl, small overall length.
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:37:00 PM EDT
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"WHAT?!?"
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:38:23 PM EDT
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"WHAT?!?" I can't hear you over the "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:42:53 PM EDT
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Why not a bullpup? AUG or Tavor, all the goodness of a full size bbl, small overall length. AUGs are expensive and the Tavor is a piece of shit. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:43:19 PM EDT
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I have a 9 inch 300 BLK pistol for a HD gun.
It's loaded with 110 Barnes black tips. Eotech, AFG and a light. I have shot it indoors and it's no louder than my 45 or 40. If I lived in a free state, it would be a SBR. |
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:43:52 PM EDT
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I'm working on a 20" pencil bbl HD AR. I'm on a velocity kick lately. Haha I got a laugh out of that. I just use my 16" with a 30rd mag next to my bed. Or my shotgun…or my 1911. Who knows?
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Posted: 12/8/2013 3:45:00 PM EDT
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Haha I got a laugh out of that. I just use my 16" with a 30rd mag next to my bed. Or my shotgun…or my 1911. Who knows? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm working on a 20" pencil bbl HD AR. I'm on a velocity kick lately. Haha I got a laugh out of that. I just use my 16" with a 30rd mag next to my bed. Or my shotgun…or my 1911. Who knows? 55 gr at 3100 fps meets my definition of nasty. |
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