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Posted: 11/18/2013 10:55:46 AM EDT
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How else do you think Obama will get insurance companies to help him fix his fuckup? Obama is gonna give them billions.
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:11:35 AM EDT
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I have no doubt!
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:12:03 AM EDT
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Obamacare is a bailout to insurance companies, they are the ones that lobbied for it and wrote the law.
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:12:40 AM EDT
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No, because if the insurance companies exist, they provide an obstacle to single-payer.
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:13:24 AM EDT
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Its already built into the law.
When the risk profile fucks up, the taxpayers pay a big chunk of the shortfall. If the risk profile REALLY fucks up (8% or more off), the taxpayers pay almost all of the shortfall. The worse the law goes, the more pain to the the taxpayers. This was intentional. It does not let America "ignore" the shitty health care bill. Instead, it forces that debate the liberals have been hoping for in terms of "single payor." |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:14:10 AM EDT
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No, because if the insurance companies exist, they provide an obstacle to single-payer. And then you will see the first of many "Obamacare bailouts". |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:17:14 AM EDT
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Obamacare is a bailout to insurance companies, they are the ones that lobbied for it and wrote the law. Not quite. When it became evident that the insurance companies would be stuck with Obamacare, they lobbied for specific items... The predominant item was the 'deadline' requirement....so if they have to insure a bunch more 'sick' people (high $$ paid out in claims), they wanted to be certain that it would be offset by a requirement for 'healthy' people to be forced to sign on at the same time. If they delay, claims will go up but the 'healthy' people won't be signing up to offset those claims... AFARR |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:18:18 AM EDT
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No, because if the insurance companies exist, they provide an obstacle to single-payer. You don't understand how this game is played. Interest groups influence the government. The government co-opts interest groups with money. Single payer will be very lucrative for those companies. They will get contracts to administer the program. Everyone wins - except the peasants. |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:19:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't understand how this game is played. Interest groups influence the government. The government co-opts interest groups with money. Single payer will be very lucrative for those companies. They will get contracts to administer the program. Everyone wins - except the peasants. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, because if the insurance companies exist, they provide an obstacle to single-payer. You don't understand how this game is played. Interest groups influence the government. The government co-opts interest groups with money. Single payer will be very lucrative for those companies. They will get contracts to administer the program. Everyone wins - except the peasants. Now I'm even more depressed.
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:24:55 AM EDT
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Its already built into the law. When the risk profile fucks up, the taxpayers pay a big chunk of the shortfall. If the risk profile REALLY fucks up (8% or more off), the taxpayers pay almost all of the shortfall. The worse the law goes, the more pain to the the taxpayers. This was intentional. It does not let America "ignore" the shitty health care bill. Instead, it forces that debate the liberals have been hoping for in terms of "single payor." I mentioned this in a post here last week. If it starts to dig too deeply into the insurance industry's profits, the government will put the printing presses into hyperdrive and give them a bailout, or subsidy...or whatever the politically correct term of the day is to mean the taxpayers will get raped to make obamacare seem to work, and protect the profits of the insurance industry. Never forget, Kaern Ignagni and the insurance industry had a huge hand in shaping this legislation with zero. |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:26:17 AM EDT
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I had not heard of these possible taxpayer bailouts until today. Obamacare insurance bailouts Hell no. Single payer requires them to go out of business. |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:27:10 AM EDT
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How else do you think Obama will get insurance companies to help him fix his fuckup? Obama is gonna give them billions. Close but no cigar friend. Obama is only going to pass through the money: you (and me) are going to give them millions, billions and maybe by the time it's all done, trillions. We were truly fucked a long time ago ..... 
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:31:48 AM EDT
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Hell no. Single payer requires them to go out of business. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had not heard of these possible taxpayer bailouts until today. Obamacare insurance bailouts Hell no. Single payer requires them to go out of business. Yup. Some of you do not get that: single-payor excludes the need for the insurance companies, Fed Gov only. |
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:34:46 AM EDT
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There is a provision within Obamacare that says the for the first 3 years if the insurance companies do not make a profit, the Gov will pony up the cash!
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Posted: 11/18/2013 11:40:12 AM EDT
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Federal Mafia...
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