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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:39:56 PM EDT
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He did his duty, then was the scape goat.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He did his duty, then was the scape goat. I like him. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:43:55 PM EDT
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Honorable man, IMO.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:45:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:47:11 PM EDT
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He's an upright American.
Watching him during a night class in college during the Senate hearings in the late '80s made liberal heads explode. It was fucking beautiful. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:47:27 PM EDT
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He's a lying piece of shit. Fuck him, fuck his (what I presume is) ugly fucking wife, fuck his entire career that he shit on by accepting the award for what he didn't fucking do in Helmand, and fuck his couch.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:49:27 PM EDT
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He's a lying piece of shit. Fuck him, fuck his (what I presume is) ugly fucking wife, fuck his entire career that he shit on by accepting the award for what he didn't fucking do in Helmand, and fuck his couch. 
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:50:10 PM EDT
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:50:51 PM EDT
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No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. And you know this how? Were you there? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:51:37 PM EDT
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Great American who did what he thought was right.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:52:18 PM EDT
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He did his duty, then was the scape goat. Always liked him. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:53:45 PM EDT
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. And you know this how? Were you there? It was my unit. I wasn't in the convoy. Many of the witnesses are close friends of mine as are the guys that were in that truck. Every one of them will stand in line to beat his ass. Fuck him. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:54:19 PM EDT
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I worked on a program that he came in and out of. He was a serious, straight shooter, determined and doing some very tough work.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:56:00 PM EDT
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No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:58:45 PM EDT
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I watched much of the hearings back in the 80's when he was being grilled on Iran-Contra. Him and Admiral Poindexter were tossed to the wolves by Reagan (you know, the best President ever) to avert attention from Reagan who was actually the guy who most likely gave the go ahead to give weapons to Iran in the hope they would release some US hostages they had, and the US government then used the money they got for those arms to finance anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. Of course President Reagan said he had no idea any of this happened and of course, did not approve it because he knew nothing about it. (Sound familiar? Like The Obama a few days ago?) He later took full blame but by then a shit load of careers of some loyal and effective Officers and high level people were ruined.
Lt. Col. North, during the hearings, wore his Marine Corps uniform, sat ramrod straight in the official manner and was every bit the military man in the way he answered and conducted himself. The turning point when North became a hero was when he made the pronouncement on live TV he would go "Mano a Mano" with whatever terrorist was trying to kill him, anytime at anyplace. Right after that, within a day or so, the whole tone of hatred by the Select Committee against him changed to near manlove since it was clear the politicians poll numbers were dropping while Ollies numbers were skyrocketing. It didn't help the politicians that North's secretary was a very loyal and smoking hottie chick. He was later convicted of lying to Congress but his conviction was later overturned. While his actions were somewhat questionable way back then, there is no doubt Lt. Col. North is a patriot and loves this country. Which is more than we can say for our current leadership. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:59:49 PM EDT
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Thrown to the wolves.
A good man in my book. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:00:47 PM EDT
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How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm curious as well. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:03:10 PM EDT
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It was my unit. I wasn't in the convoy. Many of the witnesses are close friends of mine as are the guys that were in that truck. Every one of them will stand in line to beat his ass. Fuck him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. And you know this how? Were you there? It was my unit. I wasn't in the convoy. Many of the witnesses are close friends of mine as are the guys that were in that truck. Every one of them will stand in line to beat his ass. Fuck him. Where did this occur? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:05:25 PM EDT
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Good man the Reagan witch hunt commies on congress made into a villain to hurt admin. Luckily all his convictions were overturned, he would have been pardoned anyway, but over turned shows the witch hunt.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:07:10 PM EDT
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm curious as well. I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:13:57 PM EDT
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I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm curious as well. I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:15:00 PM EDT
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The other day on FBN he said that we would have been better off without knowing the full extent of the NSA's data collecting.
Kind of regret shaking his hand ETA: To clarify, he was talking about the domestic spying. Pretty sure it's a good thing to realize that your government is creepishly collecting all your data. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:15:51 PM EDT
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Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:16:28 PM EDT
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He's a lying piece of shit. Fuck him, fuck his (what I presume is) ugly fucking wife, fuck his entire career that he shit on by accepting the award for what he didn't fucking do in Helmand, and fuck his couch. CHARLIE MURPHY! |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:16:42 PM EDT
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The other day on FBN he said that we would have been better off without knowing the full extent of the NSA's data collecting. Kind of regret shaking hands with him. Dont feel bad, Some members want to give him a Blowjob |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:20:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:21:30 PM EDT
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The other day on FBN he said that we would have been better off without knowing the full extent of the NSA's data collecting. Kind of regret shaking hands with him. Depending on what he was referring to, he may be right. Much of what was revealed about the NSA's data collecting was about foreign entities (persons, states, organizations). That revelation is what got the collective panties of the rest of the world in a twist. I have no problem with the NSA collecting on non-Americans. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:23:42 PM EDT
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I talked with him 1 on 1 for the better part of an hour while running a check point in Ramadi.
He came across as a good dude and very patriotic. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:25:51 PM EDT
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He did his duty, then was which was in part being the scape goat. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:26:13 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:27:08 PM EDT
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Depending on what he was referring to, he may be right. Much of what was revealed about the NSA's data collecting was about foreign entities (persons, states, organizations). That revelation is what got the collective panties of the rest of the world in a twist. I have no problem with the NSA collecting on non-Americans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The other day on FBN he said that we would have been better off without knowing the full extent of the NSA's data collecting. Kind of regret shaking hands with him. Depending on what he was referring to, he may be right. Much of what was revealed about the NSA's data collecting was about foreign entities (persons, states, organizations). That revelation is what got the collective panties of the rest of the world in a twist. I have no problem with the NSA collecting on non-Americans. He was referring to the domestic program. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:31:55 PM EDT
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How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile All that I can find about it on wiki: "While filming for Col. Oliver North’s show on the Fox News Channel, the Humvee in which Jackson and Rauch were riding was struck by an IED, knocking Sgt. Rauch unconscious. Although injured in the blast, Jackson pulled Rauch from the vehicle to safety. Maj. Gen. Paul Lefebvre presented Jackson with the award January 24, 2009, at Al Faw Palace in Baghdad, Iraq" |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:33:32 PM EDT
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I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. Well, that'll show him! |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:34:54 PM EDT
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I watched much of the hearings back in the 80's when he was being grilled on Iran-Contra. Him and Admiral Poindexter were tossed to the wolves by Reagan (you know, the best President ever) to avert attention from Reagan who was actually the guy who most likely gave the go ahead to give weapons to Iran in the hope they would release some US hostages they had, and the US government then used the money they got for those arms to finance anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. Of course President Reagan said he had no idea any of this happened and of course, did not approve it because he knew nothing about it. (Sound familiar? Like The Obama a few days ago?) He later took full blame but by then a shit load of careers of some loyal and effective Officers and high level people were ruined. Lt. Col. North, during the hearings, wore his Marine Corps uniform, sat ramrod straight in the official manner and was every bit the military man in the way he answered and conducted himself. The turning point when North became a hero was when he made the pronouncement on live TV he would go "Mano a Mano" with whatever terrorist was trying to kill him, anytime at anyplace. Right after that, within a day or so, the whole tone of hatred by the Select Committee against him changed to near manlove since it was clear the politicians poll numbers were dropping while Ollies numbers were skyrocketing. It didn't help the politicians that North's secretary was a very loyal and smoking hottie chick. He was later convicted of lying to Congress but his conviction was later overturned. While his actions were somewhat questionable way back then, there is no doubt Lt. Col. North is a patriot and loves this country. Which is more than we can say for our current leadership. Um, what? I'm too young to have been paying attention when this happened, but I was under the impression that Iran released the embassy hostages pretty much as soon as Reagan was sworn in, before there was even a chance of him getting anything started, much less in full swing. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:39:11 PM EDT
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Well, that'll show him! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. Well, that'll show him! How many people do you know that have personally witnessed how he conducts himself overseas? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:41:12 PM EDT
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Um, what? I'm too young to have been paying attention when this happened, but I was under the impression that Iran released the embassy hostages pretty much as soon as Reagan was sworn in, before there was even a chance of him getting anything started, much less in full swing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I watched much of the hearings back in the 80's when he was being grilled on Iran-Contra. Him and Admiral Poindexter were tossed to the wolves by Reagan (you know, the best President ever) to avert attention from Reagan who was actually the guy who most likely gave the go ahead to give weapons to Iran in the hope they would release some US hostages they had, and the US government then used the money they got for those arms to finance anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. Of course President Reagan said he had no idea any of this happened and of course, did not approve it because he knew nothing about it. (Sound familiar? Like The Obama a few days ago?) He later took full blame but by then a shit load of careers of some loyal and effective Officers and high level people were ruined. Lt. Col. North, during the hearings, wore his Marine Corps uniform, sat ramrod straight in the official manner and was every bit the military man in the way he answered and conducted himself. The turning point when North became a hero was when he made the pronouncement on live TV he would go "Mano a Mano" with whatever terrorist was trying to kill him, anytime at anyplace. Right after that, within a day or so, the whole tone of hatred by the Select Committee against him changed to near manlove since it was clear the politicians poll numbers were dropping while Ollies numbers were skyrocketing. It didn't help the politicians that North's secretary was a very loyal and smoking hottie chick. He was later convicted of lying to Congress but his conviction was later overturned. While his actions were somewhat questionable way back then, there is no doubt Lt. Col. North is a patriot and loves this country. Which is more than we can say for our current leadership. Um, what? I'm too young to have been paying attention when this happened, but I was under the impression that Iran released the embassy hostages pretty much as soon as Reagan was sworn in, before there was even a chance of him getting anything started, much less in full swing. Google "hostage Terry Anderson", and it'll make sense. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:43:25 PM EDT
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Google "hostage Terry Anderson", and it'll make sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I watched much of the hearings back in the 80's when he was being grilled on Iran-Contra. Him and Admiral Poindexter were tossed to the wolves by Reagan (you know, the best President ever) to avert attention from Reagan who was actually the guy who most likely gave the go ahead to give weapons to Iran in the hope they would release some US hostages they had, and the US government then used the money they got for those arms to finance anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. Of course President Reagan said he had no idea any of this happened and of course, did not approve it because he knew nothing about it. (Sound familiar? Like The Obama a few days ago?) He later took full blame but by then a shit load of careers of some loyal and effective Officers and high level people were ruined. Lt. Col. North, during the hearings, wore his Marine Corps uniform, sat ramrod straight in the official manner and was every bit the military man in the way he answered and conducted himself. The turning point when North became a hero was when he made the pronouncement on live TV he would go "Mano a Mano" with whatever terrorist was trying to kill him, anytime at anyplace. Right after that, within a day or so, the whole tone of hatred by the Select Committee against him changed to near manlove since it was clear the politicians poll numbers were dropping while Ollies numbers were skyrocketing. It didn't help the politicians that North's secretary was a very loyal and smoking hottie chick. He was later convicted of lying to Congress but his conviction was later overturned. While his actions were somewhat questionable way back then, there is no doubt Lt. Col. North is a patriot and loves this country. Which is more than we can say for our current leadership. Um, what? I'm too young to have been paying attention when this happened, but I was under the impression that Iran released the embassy hostages pretty much as soon as Reagan was sworn in, before there was even a chance of him getting anything started, much less in full swing. Google "hostage Terry Anderson", and it'll make sense. Ah. After a brief skim of articles from the suggested search, I think I gotcha. Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:44:24 PM EDT
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Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. Well, that'll show him! How many people do you know that have personally witnessed how he conducts himself overseas? One Major (my old company commander from 4th TkBn-now a retired Lt Col.), and one Capt. from 7th Marines. No animosity at all. Sorry. I met the man, and he seemed pretty down to earth and humble to me. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:45:11 PM EDT
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I've often wondered just how in the hell he was able to turn a senate hearing into a 25-year run as some kind of conservative hero.
I don't really have any thoughts about Iran-Contra. Probably just one of many underhanded government programs like that. I'll bet every president has numerous skeletons in his closet as bad as or worse than Iran-Contra. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:46:26 PM EDT
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I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's an upright American. No, he isn't. That award he accepted for pulling Marines out of a burning vic in 08 is a total fabrication. He was in the convoy, but he never got out of his truck, much less lift a finger to help the wounded. Fuck him. How come I never heard about this? Maybe you're talking about a different Oliver North? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm curious as well. I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. WTF, get your story straight 
first time ive heard of this anywho, bonjour |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:47:45 PM EDT
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One Major (my old company commander from 4th TkBn-now a retired Lt Col.), and one Capt. from 7th Marines. No animosity at all. Sorry. I met the man, and he seemed pretty down to earth and humble to me. Fair enough. He might have been a bamf in the old days. I wouldn't know cause I wasn't there. These days, I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. All the same, 
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:48:00 PM EDT
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He broke congressional law (the Boland Amendment) selling weapons to Iran, he had lied to Congress, he was convicted of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity; aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry; and ordering the destruction of documents.
Oliver North did what he thought was right, but he didn't play by the rules or obey the law, military officers do not have that option to ignore those rules. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:49:11 PM EDT
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He broke congressional law (the Boland Amendment) selling weapons to Iran, he had lied to Congress, he was convicted of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity; aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry; and ordering the destruction of documents. Oliver North did what he thought was right, but he didn't play by the rules or obey the law. do we all play by the rules  
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:50:09 PM EDT
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I was erroneous when I said he received the award. His cameraman, Chris Jackson, received the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award for the deed. Oliver North was the guest speaker at our Marine Corps ball that year and said he assisted in pulling guys out. I was wrong to say he got the medal. It's been a few years and I didn't recall the situation correctly. I just verified the actual story. No excuse, and I jumped the gun. Fuck him all the same. WTF, get your story straight You quoted me after my correction and admission of wrongdoing.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:53:51 PM EDT
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He broke congressional law (the Boland Amendment) selling weapons to Iran, he had lied to Congress, he was convicted of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity; aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry; and ordering the destruction of documents. Oliver North did what he thought was right, but he didn't play by the rules or obey the law. do we all play by the rules I edited my original post; no we don't all play by the rules, but we usually live by the consequences. Marine officers must obey our country's laws, his consequence is the loss of honor. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:58:31 PM EDT
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I was in the Corps during the 80's and early 90's and no one I was stationed with including myself felt he did wrong. Though legally wrong, but stand up Marine.
WE backed him 100%. Felt he was doing as ordered and falling on the blade. Don't know anything about him now a days. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 6:59:22 PM EDT
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NRA open bar at the V bar at the last SHOT....very nice gentleman, gave me a book and even signed it.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 7:00:12 PM EDT
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He broke congressional law (the Boland Amendment) selling weapons to Iran, he had lied to Congress, he was convicted of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity; aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry; and ordering the destruction of documents. Oliver North did what he thought was right, but he didn't play by the rules or obey the law, military officers do not have that option to ignore those rules. Yeah, but the Boland amendment was Constitutionally... well, it was an anal raping of Constitutional separation of powers. And for what? Because the fucking communists in the US Congress wanted to gut the longstanding Monroe Doctrine in order to strengthen the Soviet Union and save the Democrat Party's pet tyrant, Ortega. Fuck Boland. Fuck all those communists. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 7:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many people do you know that have personally witnessed how he conducts himself overseas? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Given his record as an infantry officer, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that. Given my relation to those that were there, I won't. Well, that'll show him! How many people do you know that have personally witnessed how he conducts himself overseas? Considering he was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts and a Vietnam Service Ribbon with 5 bronze campaign stars...apparently, some folks actually did witness how he conducted himself overseas. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 7:07:29 PM EDT
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I edited my original post; no we don't all play by the rules, but we usually live by the consequences. Marine officers must obey our country's laws, his consequence is the loss of honor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He broke congressional law (the Boland Amendment) selling weapons to Iran, he had lied to Congress, he was convicted of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity; aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry; and ordering the destruction of documents. Oliver North did what he thought was right, but he didn't play by the rules or obey the law. do we all play by the rules I edited my original post; no we don't all play by the rules, but we usually live by the consequences. Marine officers must obey our country's laws, his consequence is the loss of honor. Slimy fuckstains in Congress put their own political interests ahead of our national security (treason, IMHFO), despite the fact that a sitting president has every right to establish the nation's foreign policy priorities and act upon them. Lt Col. North did what he could to circumvent Congress's willingness to sell America out (with the aid of a leftist press) while the Soviets waged a proxy war against us via the Sandinistas exporting "wars of national liberation" against the governments in El Salvador and Honduras. Nothing like potentially having a Soviet client state right on your southern border should mexico have fallen into revolution. Fuck those asshats in Congress. Oliver North did what was right. |
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