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Posted: 10/29/2013 9:09:37 AM EDT
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said.
According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. View Quote |
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Seems pretty accurate. |
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They arent even trying to hide their beliefs anymore...............amazing that many people cant see what they are
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We are far behind in what matters: math and science. Keep up the good work government. Everything you touch turns to gold- just like health care...
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I just wonder how many vacations she will take when she bores of being governor...it's known the bores easily and goes off and travels on a whim when she was was at trek.
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. |
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Well, it IS a misrepresentation of what she said. Educate /= raise. Well maybe to some liberals it does.
Either way, she's obviously wrong. Otherwise all kids would graduate at around the same level. |
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Seems pretty accurate. Only if you're more concerned with affirming your take on on it than actually reading and understanding her words. |
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Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. Well sure, but the characteriazation of what she said is pretty disingenuous. It may be popular in some some circles to say there shouldn't be schools or any other public services, but it isn't exactly an extreme position to say there should. |
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this. the personification of liberal ideas. never done it, but I know how to do it better than you do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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On the school board, has no children. LOL. this. the personification of liberal ideas. never done it, but I know how to do it better than you do. Yup. Once again, the libtard brain is shown to be smaller than that of your common gnat. They are so FUCKING STUPID that it defies logic. |
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No kids and never an educator yet is on the schoool board. But she went to Harvard so she knows better than you.
Made her money as an appointed state commerce secretary and executive at Trek bikes. Good luck WI. |
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Well sure, but the characteriazation of what she said is pretty disingenuous. It may be popular in some some circles to say there shouldn't be schools or any other public services, but it isn't exactly an extreme position to say there should. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. Well sure, but the characteriazation of what she said is pretty disingenuous. It may be popular in some some circles to say there shouldn't be schools or any other public services, but it isn't exactly an extreme position to say there should. Nor is it a new or extremem position to say that a central organization is a better method to produce a large scale educated populous than millions of home-based schools teaching only their families. I'm a *HUGE* fan of home-schooling and not very much of a fan of the lowest-common-denominator type curriculum you'll find in most government schools but, what she said is actually true. The government is in a FAR better position to teach *all* of the kids than *ALL* of the families of those same children would be to do so. Ultimately, I would prefer to see all children taught by private institutions but, the government is a distant second of the best choices. ETA: Note: I said the government is in a better position, not that they were inherently better AT it. |
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects.
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Quoted: this. the personification of liberal ideas. never done it, but I know how to do it better than you do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: On the school board, has no children. LOL. this. the personification of liberal ideas. never done it, but I know how to do it better than you do. I've been encouraged to run for my local School Board. (no kids, but I went through the district as a student) Not going to do it though. The unfortunate reality is that it's often considered the launching point for one's political career/hobby. Thus, you get some fruitcakes passing through. Screw the district and it's academic reputation, I've got to have some political cred! |
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She's moonbat fucking crazy. Her family founded and owns Trek Bicycles. That gave her the luxury to be the filthy hippy she is. No one outside of Dane and Milwaukee counties will vote for her. She's just fucking nuts.
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. View Quote Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? |
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Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? Yes, I read it. Enlighten us as to what she means by, "We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of 'These are our children.’ So part of it is, we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities. Once it’s everybody’s responsibility, and not just the household’s, then we start making better investments." Where else in history have we seen this? Hummmm? |
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Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? No, I read the entire article, liberal politicians want the status quo in the education system because the basically have a strangle hold on it. They do not want private enterprise or home schooling to interfer with thier agenda. Did you read the article it is quoting? http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-mary-burke-i-wouldn-t-have-expanded/article_231cf1ce-1685-5d48-bf04-34fbb158e0de.html#ixzz2iZEKoDZy She firmly states that she wants all control of the education process to stay firmly in the hands of the school boards, and is firmly against any kind of voucher system and charter schools. |
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Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In Wisconsin she will probably win. Crazy old lefty skank. Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state. Both are communist cesspools. Milwaukee was the first city in the nation to be governed by a Mayor who ran as a Socialist. Not a Socialist pretending to be a Democrat, but a self identifying, open, SOCIALIST. They have elected several others since that first one.....Try again. |
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No, I read the entire article, liberal politicians want the status quo in the education system because the basically have a strangle hold on it. They do not want private enterprise or home schooling to interfer with thier agenda. Did you read the article it is quoting? http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-mary-burke-i-wouldn-t-have-expanded/article_231cf1ce-1685-5d48-bf04-34fbb158e0de.html#ixzz2iZEKoDZy She firmly states that she wants all control of the education process to stay firmly in the hands of the school boards, and is firmly against any kind of voucher system and charter schools. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? No, I read the entire article, liberal politicians want the status quo in the education system because the basically have a strangle hold on it. They do not want private enterprise or home schooling to interfer with thier agenda. Did you read the article it is quoting? http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-mary-burke-i-wouldn-t-have-expanded/article_231cf1ce-1685-5d48-bf04-34fbb158e0de.html#ixzz2iZEKoDZy She firmly states that she wants all control of the education process to stay firmly in the hands of the school boards, and is firmly against any kind of voucher system and charter schools. Then I disagree with her on those points. I'm a fan of giving parents as much choice as possible when it comes to educating their children. Still, though, your post I originally responded to had nothing to do with that and the conclusions you came to weren't based on any evidence before us in EITHER article. |
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Yes, I read it. Enlighten us as to what she means by, "We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of 'These are our children.’ So part of it is, we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities. Once it’s everybody’s responsibility, and not just the household’s, then we start making better investments." Where else in history have we seen this? Hummmm? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? Yes, I read it. Enlighten us as to what she means by, "We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of 'These are our children.’ So part of it is, we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities. Once it’s everybody’s responsibility, and not just the household’s, then we start making better investments." Where else in history have we seen this? Hummmm? Whether or not you like it, she has a point, to a degree. You, personally, have a vested interest in the education of your neighbor's children. Just as they have a personal interest in the education of YOUR children. The sticking points really seem to hinge on the most effective means to achieve an educated populous. I disagree with many of her conclusions but, I can do so without trying to misrepresent what she's saying. |
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Only if you're more concerned with affirming your take on on it than actually reading and understanding her words. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Seems pretty accurate. Only if you're more concerned with affirming your take on on it than actually reading and understanding her words. Nope, I read it and am smart enough to know what she would really like to say and do. You must not be. |
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Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. Most people don't have the resources to home school their kids. More power to you if you do, but it isn't typical. |
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No, I read the entire article, liberal politicians want the status quo in the education system because the basically have a strangle hold on it. They do not want private enterprise or home schooling to interfer with thier agenda. Did you read the article it is quoting? http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-mary-burke-i-wouldn-t-have-expanded/article_231cf1ce-1685-5d48-bf04-34fbb158e0de.html#ixzz2iZEKoDZy She firmly states that she wants all control of the education process to stay firmly in the hands of the school boards, and is firmly against any kind of voucher system and charter schools. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What she is basically saying is that parents should have no say in thier childrens development, the state can handle it better. All part of the indoctrination process, you have to start when they are young to insure that you have cooperative citizen/subjects. Not according to the words she is quoted as using in the article. Did you read what she said or just kinda skim over the whole thing and jump to the worst possible conclusion you could conjure while unencumbered with any facts? No, I read the entire article, liberal politicians want the status quo in the education system because the basically have a strangle hold on it. They do not want private enterprise or home schooling to interfer with thier agenda. Did you read the article it is quoting? http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-mary-burke-i-wouldn-t-have-expanded/article_231cf1ce-1685-5d48-bf04-34fbb158e0de.html#ixzz2iZEKoDZy She firmly states that she wants all control of the education process to stay firmly in the hands of the school boards, and is firmly against any kind of voucher system and charter schools. Don't bother him with reality. |
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Well sure, but the characteriazation of what she said is pretty disingenuous. It may be popular in some some circles to say there shouldn't be schools or any other public services, but it isn't exactly an extreme position to say there should. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Ever hear how well many home schoolers do in national competitions like spelling bees? To say that our current govt does anything better is a farce. Unless we are talking about the welfare parasite class. Well sure, but the characteriazation of what she said is pretty disingenuous. It may be popular in some some circles to say there shouldn't be schools or any other public services, but it isn't exactly an extreme position to say there should. Don't bother. The post was written with the forethought that a bunch of morons would out themselves. It's working perfectly. |
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Nope, I read it and am smart enough to know what she would really like to say and do. You must not be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Seems pretty accurate. Only if you're more concerned with affirming your take on on it than actually reading and understanding her words. Nope, I read it and am smart enough to know what she would really like to say and do. You must not be. Mind reading is a nifty skill. |
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In Wisconsin she will probably win. Crazy old lefty skank. Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! Judging from Wisconsin voting record in Presidential election and more recent state issues, I would say it is you who is looking at a distorted picture. |
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Well we have to consider that if that DUMBASS had kids, it would probably be better for the government to raise them than her.
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she looks like she drives a Suburu and might have played some softball in her earlier days.
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We got Doyle because yes, WI has a strain of Kumbyah herpdey-derp, aided by population concentrations in blue strongholds like Milwaukee, Racine, and Madison, further shored up by Democratic farmers who vote for their subsidies and price supports.
We also got him because as former AG, it gave him some sort of (un-earned) “tough on crime” air about him. Add to that, all the Depression-era/WWII generation who thought FDR was the best thing since sliced bread, and then the boomers who gelled politically under JFK and will ALWAYS pull the lever for the Democrat, maybe only until they reach Gwendolyn Moore levels of moonbattery… and it was a done deal. However, Doyle could have lost in ’06 if the WI GOP hadn’t gone full bore on the gay marriage amendment to the state constitution. Instead of turning out the GOP base like they thought, what it did was expose the somewhat schizophrenic political nature of the state, and TONS of Democrat anti-gay constituencies, elderly knee-jerk Democrats, Blacks, and socially conservative “Joe sixpack” union goons turned out in droves to vote for the amendment, then went on to pull the lever for Doyle. However, there’s some things going on that are helping the state to trend red. Now that Scott Walker and the GOP has done the heavy lifting to break the backs of the .gov and teachers unions in the state, they won’t be plugging money into the WI Democrat’s coffers anymore. The conservative suburban counties outside the population centers of Madison and Milwaukee like Waukesha county actually out-populate Milwaukee proper and are providing a much needed counterbalance. The Republicans largely “won” the 2000 census redistricting/gerrymandering fight in WI when it comes to the legislature. All the herpedy-derp over Act 10 and the .gov union breaking, followed up by Democratic/Liberal resistance to mines and new industry in Wisconsin kind of woke up the remaining private sector blue-collar union block… somewhat. And WI as a whole has come to get used to the Walker era and post-Act 10 life, and realized everything is still running along just fine. WI tends to stick with the incumbent governor for years and years whoever it might be… The current Democrat front-runner, Mary Burke has a LOT of negatives. Too much Madison herpedy-derp for much of the state to stomach, at least what little is on her record. Her time with Trek bicycles saw them outsource their lower end consumer lines to China which weakens her even further among what remains of the union power structure in WI. She shows just how weak the WI Democratic party is right now that they had to pick her, a relative unknown politically other than her time on the uber-liberal Madison school board who’s main positive is she’s got lots of money and is willing to throw it at her campaign, because the Democrats are tapped out, now that they don’t have the union dues gravy train from WEAC etc. anymore. And there’s a chance of a fracture in the WI Democratic party over the primary, because there’s a lot of pissed off people in the wings that she was just summarily “anointed” as the challenger. She’s in an unenviable spot of being too liberal for much of the state, and not liberal enough for what’s left of the battered and bruised WI Democratic/Leftist establishment. Quoted:
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In Wisconsin she will probably win. Crazy old lefty skank. Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! Then how in the hell did we get Doyle? |
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What she meant to say was, "Government can raise Democrat-voting robots better."
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Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state. Both are communist cesspools. Milwaukee was the first city in the nation to be governed by a Mayor who ran as a Socialist. Not a Socialist pretending to be a Democrat, but a self identifying, open, SOCIALIST. They have elected several others since that first one.....Try again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In Wisconsin she will probably win. Crazy old lefty skank. Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state. Both are communist cesspools. Milwaukee was the first city in the nation to be governed by a Mayor who ran as a Socialist. Not a Socialist pretending to be a Democrat, but a self identifying, open, SOCIALIST. They have elected several others since that first one.....Try again. If Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state how did we get a (R) Governor that handily won a recall election in his first term? Also how did we pass CCW? Also how did we pass bitch slapping unions? |
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"If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult," Burke said. "That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own." |
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here is what she actually said "If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult," Burke said. "That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own." View Quote Nuh, huh. She said all children belong to the state as a commodity to be used for fire wood, or something. |
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That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
That's a pretty gross, and intentional, misinterpretation of what she said. According to the paper: “If each individual family had to take on the role of educating their children, that would be much more difficult,” Burke said. “That’s the role of government, where it can do things better as an organization than individuals can do on their own.” According to that quote then, Burke believes parents aren’t the ones best equipped to make choices about their children’s education, that’s the job of government who can apparently “do things better” than parents. Oddly enough, she would still be in the wrong. Homeschool, and private school, results as compared to government schools show what, again? |
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If Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state how did we get a (R) Governor that handily won a recall election in his first term? Also how did we pass CCW? Also how did we pass bitch slapping unions? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In Wisconsin she will probably win. Crazy old lefty skank. Pretty sure Wisconsin is not how you picture it! Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state. Both are communist cesspools. Milwaukee was the first city in the nation to be governed by a Mayor who ran as a Socialist. Not a Socialist pretending to be a Democrat, but a self identifying, open, SOCIALIST. They have elected several others since that first one.....Try again. If Madison and Milwaukee run the whole state how did we get a (R) Governor that handily won a recall election in his first term? Also how did we pass CCW? Also how did we pass bitch slapping unions? Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in awhile. The fact is, Wisconsin has a LONG Progressive history going all the way back to "Fighting Bob LaFollete"....Yea, I know about "that guy". It's full of socialist leaning Germans and Scandnavians and FSA blacks in the large metro areas. The UW Madison was one of the MOST violent and anti war campuses during the 60's....I know, my mom was working at BAAP when it was bombed by the cock sucking communists from there. |
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