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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:26:58 PM EDT
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I am a Yamaha guy, and currently have a Kodiak 450, basically the same as the current Grizzly 450. My suggestions would be get something with EFI. Other than that, it really doesnt matter, they are all pretty good.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:31:35 PM EDT
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I am a Yamaha guy, and currently have a Kodiak 450, basically the same as the current Grizzly 450. My suggestions would be get something with EFI. Other than that, it really doesnt matter, they are all pretty good. Electronic Fuel Injection? I think they all do, I'm looking at 2013 models, but I guess if I look at used I'd have to be aware of that. What is the deal with "EPS"? I did the model comparison and can't seem to figure out the difference. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:37:49 PM EDT
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If you're looking for something that will mainly be used as a utility bike I would get a Honda, something like a 420 Rancher.
Mainly because they come with real transmissions. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:39:12 PM EDT
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Electric Power Steering. Its a nice doodad, but I have never been tempted to sell mine just to get it.
The 2013 450 is still carbureted. Mine doesn't give me any issues, but EFI would just be simpler to live with in the long run. Realistically, there really isn't a huge advantage, but I am a pretty big fan of not having to jack with stuff. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:40:30 PM EDT
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I have a 2004 Yamaha Kodiak 450 with 150 miles on it. It's been sitting idle since I bought a new Polaris Ranger Crew (6 passenger) UTV back in 2010. I use the Ranger almost everyday. It's a nice machine and pretty quiet compared to the Kawasakis and Can Am's. Those things are louder than shit.
Tony 
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:41:15 PM EDT
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If you're looking for something that will mainly be used as a utility bike I would get a Honda, something like a 420 Rancher. Mainly because they come with real transmissions. This is a valid argument, and Hondas are bulletproof machines. That being said, the Yamaha belt drive is pretty well sorted out, and doesn't give any issues. I kind of like the automatic. I can hop on it and go, one leg, sidestraddle, etc....and I despise the Honda Electric Shift. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:43:45 PM EDT
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What's "brink"?
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Electric Power Steering. Its a nice doodad, but I have never been tempted to sell mine just to get it. The 2013 450 is still carbureted. Mine doesn't give me any issues, but EFI would just be simpler to live with in the long run. Realistically, there really isn't a huge advantage, but I am a pretty big fan of not having to jack with stuff. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:03:07 PM EDT
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Goal would be to keep it at or under 6,300 for sake of the 2013 Grizzly 450.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:37:30 PM EDT
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Ok, 2013 Polaris Sportsman 400 has the most towing and best weight for the racks and the least expensive. Why are they overlooked? |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:39:03 PM EDT
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Ok, 2013 Polaris Sportsman 400 has the most towing and best weight for the racks and the least expensive. Why are they overlooked? I believe the smaller Polaris is carbed still ETA, look at arctic cat 
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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:42:16 PM EDT
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There are a lot of guys who do not like Polaris. I am one of them. That being said, they are just too heavy to do the kind of riding I do but may be perfectly good for what you want. I would look at either Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kawasaki. There is absolutely wrong with the Yamaha.
ETA: Not sure if you want to finance it, but the Suzuki Kingquad 400 is $6500 base price and they are running a 0 interest for 60 months deal through the end of the month. They do this quite often, so I'm sure they will have the same deal in a few months.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:11:06 PM EDT
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There are a lot of guys who do not like Polaris. I am one of them. That being said, they are just too heavy to do the kind of riding I do but may be perfectly good for what you want. I would look at either Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kawasaki. There is absolutely wrong with the Yamaha. ETA: Not sure if you want to finance it, but the Suzuki Kingquad 400 is $6500 base price and they are running a 0 interest for 60 months deal through the end of the month. They do this quite often, so I'm sure they will have the same deal in a few months. OK, will look into this. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:27:25 PM EDT
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I bought a used $1500 Honda several yrs. ago, as my buddies were buying new $6-8K units. Mine is now more reliable. Pulls trailer, hauls deer, and gear.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:32:28 PM EDT
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I bought a used $1500 Honda several yrs. ago, as my buddies were buying new $6-8K units. Mine is now more reliable. Pulls trailer, hauls deer, and gear. I looked for used but couldn't find much that made it worth not buying new. What do you mean, "mine is now more reliable"? |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:33:16 PM EDT
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There are a lot of guys who do not like Polaris. I am one of them. That being said, they are just too heavy to do the kind of riding I do but may be perfectly good for what you want. I would look at either Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kawasaki. There is absolutely wrong with the Yamaha. ETA: Not sure if you want to finance it, but the Suzuki Kingquad 400 is $6500 base price and they are running a 0 interest for 60 months deal through the end of the month. They do this quite often, so I'm sure they will have the same deal in a few months. Looking at both the ASI and FSI, can't seem to see a difference between them besides weight. Also, no listing of towing capacity. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:50:50 PM EDT
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I looked for used but couldn't find much that made it worth not buying new. What do you mean, "mine is now more reliable"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought a used $1500 Honda several yrs. ago, as my buddies were buying new $6-8K units. Mine is now more reliable. Pulls trailer, hauls deer, and gear. I looked for used but couldn't find much that made it worth not buying new. What do you mean, "mine is now more reliable"? My 2000 Honda has just held up better than my buddies later model Polaris and Arctic Cats. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:05:11 PM EDT
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If you're looking for something that will mainly be used as a utility bike I would get a Honda, something like a 420 Rancher. Mainly because they come with real transmissions. Came here to suggest the rancher. I know several farmers that use them down here and they've been good. much better than the older ranchers, but nothing like the old fourtrax 300. as for as the belt transmissions on the yamahas and other bikes, I don't care for them. More of a personal preference than anything, but I know enough about them to know that I'd rather have gears than a belt. YMMV |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:08:46 PM EDT
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OP, you need a kitty like mine.
 It is my pick up, my tractor and my transpo. Great ATV and only 400cc   |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:11:47 PM EDT
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OP, you need a kitty like mine. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2013%20May/2013%20May%2020/1368929553_zpsc4cf4d22.jpg It is my pick up, my tractor and my transpo. Great ATV and only 400cc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2012%20May/2012-05-12_14-45-48_105.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2012%20May/2012-05-12_14-50-35_259.jpg Is that tilting bed an accessory you purchased? What size trailer hitch does it use? 2"? |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:17:44 PM EDT
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Op, i just bought a 2013 rancher last thursday for the hunting lease. I got the most basic model, solid rear axle, foot shift and 4x2. I love it.
More importantly, i got it out the door after all fees for under 5k. Tested it out this weekend and couldnt be happier with my decision. It even hauled a 8 ft utility trailer with a 400 lb bear on it through some really ugly stuff like it is nothing. Not as high end as some of the other guys stuff but Honda can really build an atv, motorcycle, etc. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:22:29 PM EDT
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Op, i just bought a 2013 rancher last thursday for the hunting lease. I got the most basic model, solid rear axle, foot shift and 4x2. I love it. More importantly, i got it out the door after all fees for under 5k. Tested it out this weekend and couldnt be happier with my decision. It even hauled a 8 ft utility trailer with a 400 lb bear on it through some really ugly stuff like it is nothing. Not as high end as some of the other guys stuff but Honda can really build an atv, motorcycle, etc. Interesting. I figured the 4x4 was a must. Can anyone shed light on this? I assumed like a pickup truck, there is no point in not getting 4x4. I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. I figured the 4x4 was a must. Can anyone shed light on this? I assumed like a pickup truck, there is no point in not getting 4x4. I could be wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Op, i just bought a 2013 rancher last thursday for the hunting lease. I got the most basic model, solid rear axle, foot shift and 4x2. I love it. More importantly, i got it out the door after all fees for under 5k. Tested it out this weekend and couldnt be happier with my decision. It even hauled a 8 ft utility trailer with a 400 lb bear on it through some really ugly stuff like it is nothing. Not as high end as some of the other guys stuff but Honda can really build an atv, motorcycle, etc. Interesting. I figured the 4x4 was a must. Can anyone shed light on this? I assumed like a pickup truck, there is no point in not getting 4x4. I could be wrong. Edit- i was concerned with breaking my truck getting up to where i wanted to hunt, truck is a v8 4runner with dual lockers and 33 inch bfg km2 tires. Had a pretty ugly go of it the week before. The 4x2 rancher laughed at it all.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:27:17 PM EDT
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For me, 4x4 is not negotiable, just as I consider a front diff lock, IRS, and low range necessities. Everyone's uses are different, however, and a 2wd ATV will do a pretty good amount of work, with a huge cost savings up front, and simplicity down the road.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:30:35 PM EDT
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I have an 04 Honda Foreman 450. It's the "dreaded ES model". It's never given me any trouble. Replaced tie rod ends and wheel bearings. It's got over 2000 miles on it now. I've got a small lift and mud tires on it and its geared so low that I still use 2nd gear as first unless I'm pulling something super heavy or going up a steep incline. I pull a 5x8 utility trailer loaded with wood, rocks, lumber. It's a great machine.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For me, 4x4 is not negotiable, just as I consider a front diff lock, IRS, and low range necessities. Everyone's uses are different, however, and a 2wd ATV will do a pretty good amount of work, with a huge cost savings up front, and simplicity down the road. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that tilting bed an accessory you purchased? What size trailer hitch does it use? 2"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP, you need a kitty like mine. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2013%20May/2013%20May%2020/1368929553_zpsc4cf4d22.jpg It is my pick up, my tractor and my transpo. Great ATV and only 400cc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2012%20May/2012-05-12_14-45-48_105.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/family/Manton/2012%20May/2012-05-12_14-50-35_259.jpg Is that tilting bed an accessory you purchased? What size trailer hitch does it use? 2"? http://www.arcticcat.com/atv/category/utility/ |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:31:39 PM EDT
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True, and the sticker shock of 4x4 is what got me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For me, 4x4 is not negotiable, just as I consider a front diff lock, IRS, and low range necessities. Everyone's uses are different, however, and a 2wd ATV will do a pretty good amount of work, with a huge cost savings up front, and simplicity down the road. Thats why I buy used. None of these damn things is worth what they cost new. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:33:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats why I buy used. None of these damn things is worth what they cost new. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For me, 4x4 is not negotiable, just as I consider a front diff lock, IRS, and low range necessities. Everyone's uses are different, however, and a 2wd ATV will do a pretty good amount of work, with a huge cost savings up front, and simplicity down the road. Thats why I buy used. None of these damn things is worth what they cost new. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:35:56 PM EDT
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I tried for a month to buy used, the last guy i contacted via text on craigslist i was pretty sure was going to kill, rape and eat me if i went to look at the atv. Figured screw it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For me, 4x4 is not negotiable, just as I consider a front diff lock, IRS, and low range necessities. Everyone's uses are different, however, and a 2wd ATV will do a pretty good amount of work, with a huge cost savings up front, and simplicity down the road. Thats why I buy used. None of these damn things is worth what they cost new. Also, used doesn't come with a warranty. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:36:09 PM EDT
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The Grizzly's are bad ass quads. I just traded my '10 Grizzly 450 for a 700 with EPS. EPS is amazing, can't believe how much of an improvement it makes. Makes the 700 feel like your maneuvering a little 450 through the trails. would opt for a used 700 over a new 450. Have a 800 Can Am Renegade also, and I'm going to trade it for another grizzly 700 w/EPS.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:38:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:39:52 PM EDT
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I'm a Honda guy myself. My dad's 95 fourtrax 300 still looks new and runs like a champ to this day with no major work. I bought an 06 foreman 500 new back in 07. It's built like a tank and takes any kind of abuse I throw at it (it's been a lot of abuse). If I swamp it in deep water I just got to drain the carb and I'm good to go until I do it again
 . The electric shift is nice but it get kind of finicky in cold weather.
If I were to do it all over again buying brand new I would've spent a little more and got into a can am. There is so much more power with those it's not even funny. When me and my buddies are out wheeling I'm usually close to the back of the pack because of the lack of top end but I don't think your really going to be pushing your wheeler to it's limits from what you said. From your description I would still recommend a Honda, it will last forever for your needs. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:42:25 PM EDT
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Also, used doesn't come with a warranty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I tried for a month to buy used, the last guy i contacted via text on craigslist i was pretty sure was going to kill, rape and eat me if i went to look at the atv. Figured screw it. Also, used doesn't come with a warranty. I bought a very nice used 2006 Kodiak 450 IRS with 300hrs on it for less than $3000, and the guy never even came on to me. As for the warranty, I fix my own stuff, so thats not a concern in the least. ATVs are so simple, and parts so cheap that it really is not a concern, unless you simply dont care to do it yourself. |
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