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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:12:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:13:09 AM EDT
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It used to be 0-50 if you look at older car mags.
62.5mph=100kph so 0-60 makes it easier to convert across multiple regions for the same car.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:14:16 AM EDT
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Arguably, the standing start 1/4 mile is the real standard. 0-60 is just used in magazines.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:14:48 AM EDT
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Merging onto a highway.
Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:18:09 AM EDT
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55mph national speed limit.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:21:57 AM EDT
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It used to be 0-50 if you look at older car mags. 62.5mph=100kph so 0-60 makes it easier to convert across multiple regions for the same car. Makes sense |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:23:05 AM EDT
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I read somewhere a long time ago that it was used as a gauge for merging onto a freeway, especially during the gas crunch smogger junk of the mid-late '70s or so.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:26:13 AM EDT
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How fast do you plan on going on public streets?
Maybe we should use top speed 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:28:08 AM EDT
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60 mph = 1 mile in 1 minute..makes for easy calculations.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:28:14 AM EDT
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Acceleration != Top Speed
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:29:15 AM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:35:41 AM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't Not here anymore either. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:37:16 AM EDT
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0-100-0, that's how it should be done, of course with the speed limits in this contry it's irrelevant.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:40:32 AM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't Back in the 70's... |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:46:01 AM EDT
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0-60 is used as a VERY general way of telling you the absolute quickest that car in stock form will get up to speed.
But it tells you NOTHING about the manner in which it does it. 1/4 mile is a much better indication of how fast a vehicle is but still does not tell you much about the car for how most normal people will drive it. The vehicle connoisseur will use multiple statistics to get a good idea of how it will perform. 0-60 tells you how it launches and a little bit about how it shifts. 5-60 will tell you a lot better about how fast the car is. Many cars...such as ones with all wheel drive...will have a large disparity between these two statistics because 0-60 requires a hard launch and 5-60 is just flooring it while already moving. Another important stat is a top gear 50-70 acceleration...which will be a better indicator of torque. so yea...suck it |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:51:56 AM EDT
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Arguably, the standing start 1/4 mile is the real standard. 0-60 is just used in magazines. Not really, 0-60 is much more applicable to a street car. As you can do a 0-60 blast in most areas. Where a full on 110mph 1/4 mile run isn't feasible(or remotely safe) in most areas. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:03:49 PM EDT
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Tag.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:05:52 PM EDT
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60 mph = 1 mile in 1 minute..makes for easy calculations. +1 1/10 of an hour = 6 minutes |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:07:11 PM EDT
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45-65 is probably the most useful real life statistic
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 0-100-0, that's how it should be done, ............ That's always more interesting and telling of what it might could do. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:10:02 PM EDT
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Torque-
Torque is EVERYTHING! |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:48:18 PM EDT
[#21]
maybe 0-61 was already taken.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:50:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 0-100-0, that's how it should be done, of course with the speed limits in this contry it's irrelevant. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 12:55:13 PM EDT
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Not really, 0-60 is much more applicable to a street car. As you can do a 0-60 blast in most areas. Where a full on 110mph 1/4 mile run isn't feasible(or remotely safe) in most areas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arguably, the standing start 1/4 mile is the real standard. 0-60 is just used in magazines. Not really, 0-60 is much more applicable to a street car. As you can do a 0-60 blast in most areas. Where a full on 110mph 1/4 mile run isn't feasible(or remotely safe) in most areas. A magazine style 0-60 blast will get you a display of speed or similar ticket if there is a cop watching. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:12:09 PM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't Not here anymore either. in somolia? |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:15:06 PM EDT
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I read somewhere a long time ago that it was used as a gauge for merging onto a freeway, especially during the gas crunch smogger junk of the mid-late '70s or so. This explanation is the one I subscribe to. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:19:24 PM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't Not here anymore either. in somolia? Yep. We don't even have roads. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:26:42 PM EDT
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0 to 60 is how QUICK a car is; not how FAST it is.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:29:05 PM EDT
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30-90 acceleration (accelerating out of corners) is harder for knuckledraggers to wrap their head around and the standing mile requires more attention span than the average American can muster.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:31:26 PM EDT
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Because most people think that 60 is going fast.
 The people that will gas it to hit 50, to slam on the anchors at the next traffic light is amazing. Just look at the level of aggression displayed in heavy traffic, lane changing, rubber banding etc. all done below 30. Get the speed up to >60 most turn into pussies and wont even change lanes. This is for the average sheeple, not for the all the F1 Supercross NASCAR Rally drivers on arfcom. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:31:27 PM EDT
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Merging onto a highway. Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think it's this simple OP |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Torque- Torque is EVERYTHING! Power is what matters because it includes the work done per unit of time. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:35:44 PM EDT
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0 to 60 is how QUICK a car is; not how FAST it is. +1 |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:39:02 PM EDT
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45-65 is probably the most useful real life statistic This. Because 45 is a reasonable speed on the 25mph curved onramp, and you need to get up to 65 to merge. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:40:29 PM EDT
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To answer OP, 0 to 60 is the average stop light street race and you need to know if you will win or lose before the challenge.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:59:22 PM EDT
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Arguably, the standing start 1/4 mile is the real standard. 0-60 is just used in magazines. This. 60ft time is important as well. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:06:20 PM EDT
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1/4 mile is more important than 0-60 IMO
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:14:25 PM EDT
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I say we switch to lap times of the Nurburgring Nordschleife.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:17:04 PM EDT
[#38]
60' time is more important to me. 0 - 60 is for bench racers.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:17:44 PM EDT
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Acceleration != Top Speed Acceleration=Distance/Time |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:19:47 PM EDT
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It used to be 0-50 if you look at older car mags. 62.5mph=100kph so 0-60 makes it easier to convert across multiple regions for the same car. Pretty much. We use the 0-100 km/h standard, so 0-60 miles/h makes sense in the US. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:26:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 0-60 is used as a VERY general way of telling you the absolute quickest that car in stock form will get up to speed. But it tells you NOTHING about the manner in which it does it. 1/4 mile is a much better indication of how fast a vehicle is but still does not tell you much about the car for how most normal people will drive it. The vehicle connoisseur will use multiple statistics to get a good idea of how it will perform. 0-60 tells you how it launches and a little bit about how it shifts. 5-60 will tell you a lot better about how fast the car is. Many cars...such as ones with all wheel drive...will have a large disparity between these two statistics because 0-60 requires a hard launch and 5-60 is just flooring it while already moving. Another important stat is a top gear 50-70 acceleration...which will be a better indicator of torque. so yea...suck it But then its a turbo 6speed so at 3K in 6th gear I am doing 90. It would be idling in 6th at 50mph. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:43:34 PM EDT
[#42]
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0-60 is used as a VERY general way of telling you the absolute quickest that car in stock form will get up to speed. But it tells you NOTHING about the manner in which it does it. 1/4 mile is a much better indication of how fast a vehicle is but still does not tell you much about the car for how most normal people will drive it. The vehicle connoisseur will use multiple statistics to get a good idea of how it will perform. 0-60 tells you how it launches and a little bit about how it shifts. 5-60 will tell you a lot better about how fast the car is. Many cars...such as ones with all wheel drive...will have a large disparity between these two statistics because 0-60 requires a hard launch and 5-60 is just flooring it while already moving. Another important stat is a top gear 50-70 acceleration...which will be a better indicator of torque. so yea...suck it Please explain, in detail, why a quarter mile time is "better" than 0-60 time. NOTE: This is a question, not a challenge. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:52:33 PM EDT
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Honestly most cars 1/4 mile time & speed are set in stone by 60 mph. In fact I'll go as far to say that most cars pick up around 20mph in the second 1/8 mile of a 1/4 mile.
<-- Has made over 1,000 passes down a dragstrip, autocrossed, open tracked/HPDE, ran the Texas Mile and open road raced. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:54:50 PM EDT
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60 mph = 1 mile in 1 minute..makes for easy calculations.
Has no relevance here. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly most cars 1/4 mile time & speed are set in stone by 60 mph. In fact I'll go as far to say that most cars pick up around 20mph in the second 1/8 mile of a 1/4 mile. <-- Has made over 1,000 passes down a dragstrip, autocrossed, open tracked/HPDE, ran the Texas Mile and open road raced. I believe a lot of this has to do with the short gearing in the first few gears. You have your 60' time to deal with, traction issues, plus a 1/2 shift on top of that. I would venture to say that by the time you hit the 1/8 mile mark, you generally have no more traction issues and you spend longer in 3rd running it out. Just my personal observation, probably wrong. I haven't raced in a while. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:58:51 PM EDT
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Honestly most cars 1/4 mile time & speed are set in stone by 60 mph. In fact I'll go as far to say that most cars pick up around 20mph in the second 1/8 mile of a 1/4 mile. <-- Has made over 1,000 passes down a dragstrip, autocrossed, open tracked/HPDE, ran the Texas Mile and open road raced. I prefer cars that are exceptions to your rules. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:00:44 PM EDT
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55mph national speed limit. Not here it isn't What is the speed limit over there? |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:01:21 PM EDT
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0-60 is used by car magazines and some of the first car mags were British. The national speed limit in England was 60mph.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:02:00 PM EDT
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Honestly most cars 1/4 mile time & speed are set in stone by 60 mph. In fact I'll go as far to say that most cars pick up around 20mph in the second 1/8 mile of a 1/4 mile. <-- Has made over 1,000 passes down a dragstrip, autocrossed, open tracked/HPDE, ran the Texas Mile and open road raced. That's very true. My Buick is 100 MPH in the 1/8th mile, and 136 MPH in the 1/4 mile............and that's a mid 10 second car. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:03:01 PM EDT
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A magazine style 0-60 blast will get you a display of speed or similar ticket if there is a cop watching. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arguably, the standing start 1/4 mile is the real standard. 0-60 is just used in magazines. Not really, 0-60 is much more applicable to a street car. As you can do a 0-60 blast in most areas. Where a full on 110mph 1/4 mile run isn't feasible(or remotely safe) in most areas. A magazine style 0-60 blast will get you a display of speed or similar ticket if there is a cop watching. Not in the heavily congested areas that have metering stoplights on the freeway entrance ramps. One car per green, with what feels like <300 yards yards to get up to highway speed (which is 65mph plus the normal extra 8-10mph over the limit most people go) and merge. They're quite interesting in my 3/4ton SUV, the 6L really screams when you stomp on it. 
Kharn |
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