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Posted: 10/24/2013 6:36:19 PM EDT
what is the difference between that and a 3/4?  I did find this
A 3/4 Cock Trap has a one-way clutch that allows throwing arm travel in only one direction. When the throwing arm is tripped and a clay target thrown, the inertia of the arm carries it to about an 8 o'clock position. The one-way clutch does not allow the spring to pull the arm back to the twelve o'clock position, but instead stops it at the furthest distance traveled, which is closer to the setter. This feature requires less force and a much shorter distance to fully cock the trap for the next throw.
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but then so what advantage does the full one have?

im shopping on amazon for a clay launcher, my neighbor took me dove hunting and I got a few but want to improve.
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Not what I was expecting
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Yet we both ended up in here.
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Hoping to do a little meat gazing?

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this thread ain't dildos
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I thought it was a PSA
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how did i end up in this thread?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:44:45 PM EDT
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I expected a thread on medieval penile torture devices. Or maybe male chastity belts.

Am disappoint.
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This.
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This isnt the guys with big dicks thread?! WTF!?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:47:15 PM EDT
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ugh can a mod move this to team?
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Hell I thought I might catch the next chapter of the dildopocalypse
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Hello to all mods and staff that are online right now.  
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Really? Nothing BUT team in this thread and it is getting de-railed.


Op knows better though.
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I hate that movie.
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This thread is fabulous.  
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Really? Nothing BUT team in this thread and it is getting de-railed.


Op knows better though.
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Really? Nothing BUT team in this thread and it is getting de-railed.


Op knows better though.


yeah i figured it be funny but I figured I would get an answer.  apparently some 'event' has happened earlier that got the natives restless
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Wait, how did I get here?
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.
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I hate that movie.
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I hate that movie.
why? everyone loves some vaginal dentata



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:19:01 PM EDT
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After watching this:

I really want one of the 3/4 cock traps.
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.
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I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks
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A cock trap you say?
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I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.


I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks

It spins 270 degrees and then stops. You pull it the rest of the way back to locked. It will only rotate in one direction.
The video I embedded shows the people using them.
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It spins 270 degrees and then stops. You pull it the rest of the way back to locked. It will only rotate in one direction.
The video I embedded shows the people using them.
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.


I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks

It spins 270 degrees and then stops. You pull it the rest of the way back to locked. It will only rotate in one direction.
The video I embedded shows the people using them.


I see the rotation thing now, but just seems like one of those would require much more effort to cock than a regular one since you have to fully load the spring in just 1/4 of a turn.  Kind of like how my very short draw crossbow requires 175 lbs to draw since the draw is so short compared to a regular compound bow with a draw of half your wingspan only requires 55 or so lbs.  But apparently the mechanical advantage here isn't in play like you'd think?
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I see the rotation thing now, but just seems like one of those would require much more effort to cock than a regular one since you have to fully load the spring in just 1/4 of a turn.  Kind of like how my very short draw crossbow requires 175 lbs to draw since the draw is so short compared to a regular compound bow with a draw of half your wingspan only requires 55 or so lbs.  But apparently the mechanical advantage here isn't in play like you'd think?
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.


I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks

It spins 270 degrees and then stops. You pull it the rest of the way back to locked. It will only rotate in one direction.
The video I embedded shows the people using them.


I see the rotation thing now, but just seems like one of those would require much more effort to cock than a regular one since you have to fully load the spring in just 1/4 of a turn.  Kind of like how my very short draw crossbow requires 175 lbs to draw since the draw is so short compared to a regular compound bow with a draw of half your wingspan only requires 55 or so lbs.  But apparently the mechanical advantage here isn't in play like you'd think?

I've never used one of those, but it appears to work by conserving some of the energy each time by using the residual "follow through" momentum of the arm to partially cock the spring.  In a full cock system, that energy would be lost by hitting a stop and bouncing back.
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I see the rotation thing now, but just seems like one of those would require much more effort to cock than a regular one since you have to fully load the spring in just 1/4 of a turn.  Kind of like how my very short draw crossbow requires 175 lbs to draw since the draw is so short compared to a regular compound bow with a draw of half your wingspan only requires 55 or so lbs.  But apparently the mechanical advantage here isn't in play like you'd think?
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A 3/4 trap as described has a clutch to keep the arm from returning to uncocked.

It is much easier to pull to complete ready position.

The full cock trap must be pulled against the spring the entire way, and is much harder to operate for weaker individuals.
There are no advantages to the full cock. The 3/4 manuals are used by most commercial clays courses if they don't use an electric.


I guess I don't get that. So it returns to cocked?  I'm sure that's not the case. Guess I'll just have to get one.  But all the ones I see on amazon do have some negative reviews.  Guess I'll just stay away for the extremely inexpensive ones and take my chances. Thanks

It spins 270 degrees and then stops. You pull it the rest of the way back to locked. It will only rotate in one direction.
The video I embedded shows the people using them.


I see the rotation thing now, but just seems like one of those would require much more effort to cock than a regular one since you have to fully load the spring in just 1/4 of a turn.  Kind of like how my very short draw crossbow requires 175 lbs to draw since the draw is so short compared to a regular compound bow with a draw of half your wingspan only requires 55 or so lbs.  But apparently the mechanical advantage here isn't in play like you'd think?

You're really over thinking this.
The 3/4 are much easier since the residual energy helps cock it.
The last few degrees are the easiest because it acts like a cam.

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