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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:05:35 PM EDT
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Good to know..glad he was "on the job."
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:08:22 PM EDT
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OP, haven't you been familiarized yet?
Where is NorCal? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:12:58 PM EDT
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OP, haven't you been familiarized yet? Where is NorCal? I guess i got the Norcal seal of approval...Im one of you guys one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:14:01 PM EDT
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New IP addy, retread?
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:14:35 PM EDT
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Charge that coward with gang assault.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:16:25 PM EDT
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Charge that coward with gang assault. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:22:36 PM EDT
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Charge that coward with gang assault. Not gonna happen. He's more equal than others. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:25:37 PM EDT
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I liked the other story about The Hell's Angels ripping the "moto-psycos" for the beating of a man with/in front of his family.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:26:28 PM EDT
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At least they went home safe
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:31:39 PM EDT
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Charge that coward with gang assault. Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:34:37 PM EDT
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:35:35 PM EDT
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Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Charge that coward with gang assault. Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? Its a real charge. "while acting in concert with others....." |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:36:38 PM EDT
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Good to know..glad he was "on the job." And went home safely |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:37:22 PM EDT
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lots of cops were on that ride. Don't kid yourself.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:38:44 PM EDT
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I guess i got the Norcal seal of approval...Im one of you guys one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP, haven't you been familiarized yet? Where is NorCal? I guess i got the Norcal seal of approval...Im one of you guys one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! one of you's! That's good news, since I'm partial to your username. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:42:34 PM EDT
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Under cover or on the down low?
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:46:01 PM EDT
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Under cover or on the down low? Maybe that's why the DA didn't press charges. 
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:46:07 PM EDT
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I liked the other story about The Hell's Angels ripping the "moto-psycos" for the beating of a man with/in front of his family. Bad form?Just proves that savages will be savages. Even the HA have a code that they live by. Just a shame that they werent there to step in. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:47:19 PM EDT
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen. This, fuck that noise |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:47:59 PM EDT
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Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Charge that coward with gang assault. Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? That charge is mentioned in the article for one of the other guys. Gotta love all these guys who ask questions answered in the linked article. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:48:35 PM EDT
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen. Well how about him and the other cops at least give up the names of the other assailants? Also, at the very least, he was part of the "group" terrorizing that family. If any of the cops were in on the pursuit phase of the whole thing, I hope they get charged. They are still accomplices IMO. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:50:22 PM EDT
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I posted in another thread the fact that when I lived in Cali I would see real "outlaw gangs" a few times on poker runs Hells Angels/Outlaws/Bandidos
and they always just cruised around everyone and went on their ways without causing anyone problems. Like I said I have way more respect for those guys the so called 1%r's then these sportbike idiots.And FWIW I used to ride a Kawi sportbike. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:59:50 PM EDT
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen. This, fuck that noise I wonder what the officers would have done to Range Rover guy if he had used his handgun to protect his family. Stand idly by or mag dump his ass? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:02:05 PM EDT
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I wonder what the officers would have done to Range Rover guy if he had used his handgun to protect his family. Stand idly by or mag dump his ass? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen. This, fuck that noise I wonder what the officers would have done to Range Rover guy if he had used his handgun to protect his family. Stand idly by or mag dump his ass? Officers would've had more rounds at their disposal. Law abiding citizen is limited to six rounds. 
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:03:29 PM EDT
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Off duty participants, bystanders, or undercover agents is the question to be answered. If they are members of these criminal gangs, they should be fired or even charged appropriately.
These are not exactly happy go lucky motorcycle clubs. I love this part: “He didn’t want to blow his cover,” said the source — though the cop was not investigating the group of bikers. Yea riiiiight asshole.
If he was really an undercover cop on duty, as one would be in such a situation, then he should of intervened. But I am going to guess he wasn't. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:05:00 PM EDT
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"
I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:05:54 PM EDT
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lots of cops were on that ride. Don't kid yourself. This. We already started discussing this in the other thread. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1540233_NYPD_response_to_biker_attack_against_Range_Rover_and_family_inside_.html&page=8 |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:07:01 PM EDT
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Even the HA have a code that they live by. Just a shame that they werent there to step in. Yeah the Hells Angels never do stuff like that to motorists. The ball peen hammers on their handlebars are for repairs. 
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:07:29 PM EDT
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?" I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. Cops have told me they're never really off duty. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:08:30 PM EDT
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I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. They are. His problem is that he waited to come forward, if the article is correct. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:09:13 PM EDT
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Cops have told me they're never really off duty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?" I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. Cops have told me they're never really off duty. NYPD cops? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:09:25 PM EDT
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LOL, and to think the question comes up here now and again "would you step in to help a cop getting beat up?".
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:10:41 PM EDT
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Say it ain't so...
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:14:12 PM EDT
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NYPD cops? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?" I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. Cops have told me they're never really off duty. NYPD cops? Several, yes. But also cops in general. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:14:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, and to think the question comes up here now and again "would you step in to help a cop getting beat up?". And the answer again is yes. Unless you think all cops deserve to get their asses kicked.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:14:57 PM EDT
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Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Charge that coward with gang assault. Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws? Why would you post in a thread without reading the topic article? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:14:58 PM EDT
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Folks need to realize the the rank and file of the LEO Comunity is a cross section of the American public. There are good honest cops and there are those that are rotten to the corps. The brother of the badge BS only serves to compound the problem with dirty cops.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:16:42 PM EDT
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sounds like cop union BS. Don't get involved to help citizen getting beaten to death (could have been), but if they had a chance to bust somebody they didn't like take a guess. Dirtbags
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:17:58 PM EDT
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Undercover and off-duty cops were among the bikers that chased Alexian Lien and his family. Lien, tried to flee angry motorcyclists who attacked his vehicle. They later caught up with him, beating and stabbing the man in front of his family. A pair of NYPD detectives rode last weekend with the motorcycle mob that battered a Manhattan dad as his terrified family watched, a source told the Daily News.
The two cops apparently waited several days after Sunday’s brutal assault before informing supervisors about their involvement in the high-profile case, the source said. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/celebrity-lawyer-gloria-allred-represents-biker-injured-suv-driver-attacked-upper-manhattan-article-1.1476093 |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Folks need to realize the the rank and file of the LEO Comunity is a cross section of the American public. There are good honest cops and there are those that are rotten to the cops. The brother of the badge BS only serves to compound the problem with dirty cops. Actually, quite a few unfit to be trusted with the power of arrest are weeded out through the hiring process. Though some inevitably squeak through, the percentage of scumbags in LE is far lower than in the general public.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:20:55 PM EDT
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Several, yes. But also cops in general. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?" I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. Cops have told me they're never really off duty. NYPD cops? Several, yes. But also cops in general. Those NYPD cops must have been good friends with this guy. 
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:22:14 PM EDT
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I posted in another thread the fact that when I lived in Cali I would see real "outlaw gangs" a few times on poker runs Hells Angels/Outlaws/Bandidio and they always just cruised around everyone and went on their ways without causing anyone problems. Like I said I have way more respect for those guys the so called 1%r's then these sportbike idiots.And FWIW I used to ride a Kawi sportbike. I've been quiet thru this whole story, but I have to make the point that this wasn't just any group of sportbikes. It was a group of motorcycles period. Some were dirt bikes, some were streetbikes, many were either stolen, not street legal in the first place, or had the plates removed. This was a Black Urban Biker Gang, not adrenalin junkies out on their fast toys for a thrill. These guys were thugs on bikes, no other way to describe it. I ride fast with large numbers of bikes on occasion and we manage not to fuck with anyone or make trouble. Some large cities have problems with these bike riding hood rats, don't lump all of us with them and hide behind the fact you use'ta had a bike a while ago. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Those NYPD cops must have been good friends with this guy. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/kool1.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?" I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty. Cops have told me they're never really off duty. NYPD cops? Several, yes. But also cops in general. Those NYPD cops must have been good friends with this guy. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/kool1.jpg So if they witness a crime being committed while they are "off duty" they just go about their business? Do you carry "off duty"? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:23:41 PM EDT
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Sounds like cop union BS. More like self and job preservation, though they blew that by not coming forward as soon as it happened. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, haven't you been familiarized yet? Where is NorCal? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:24:52 PM EDT
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Undercover and off-duty cops were among the bikers that chased Alexian Lien and his family. Lien, tried to flee angry motorcyclists who attacked his vehicle. They later caught up with him, beating and stabbing the man in front of his family. A pair of NYPD detectives rode last weekend with the motorcycle mob that battered a Manhattan dad as his terrified family watched, a source told the Daily News.
The two cops apparently waited several days after Sunday’s brutal assault before informing supervisors about their involvement in the high-profile case, the source said. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/celebrity-lawyer-gloria-allred-represents-biker-injured-suv-driver-attacked-upper-manhattan-article-1.1476093 Mr. Lien is very lucky one of the bikers he ran over was not an LEO. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:25:00 PM EDT
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So if they witness a crime being committed while they are "off duty" they just go about their business? Call 911, leave name and a call back number, and then go on your way. Then they'd be covered. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:26:43 PM EDT
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Call 911, leave name and a call back number, and then go on your way. Then they'd be covered. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So if they witness a crime being committed while they are "off duty" they just go about their business? Call 911, leave name and a call back number, and then go on your way. Then they'd be covered. Right. Do you carry off duty? |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:27:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Off duty participants, bystanders, or undercover agents is the question to be answered. If they are members of these criminal gangs, they should be fired or even charged appropriately. These are not exactly happy go lucky motorcycle clubs. I love this part: "He didn’t want to blow his cover,” said the source — though the cop was not investigating the group of bikers. Yea riiiiight asshole. If he was really an undercover cop on duty, as one would be in such a situation, then he should of intervened. But I am going to guess he wasn't. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 3:28:54 PM EDT
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Do you carry "off duty"? I'm retired but when I was still working it was for me and my loved ones, not for strangers. |
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