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Posted: 9/10/2013 3:34:55 PM EDT

http://www.capradio.org/articles/2013/09/09/lead-ammunition-ban,-trust-act-pass-senate/


The California legislature powered through stacks of bills as it began its final week of the session. More than 150 bills were up for debate Monday.

One of the most controversial came in the Senate, where a proposed ban on lead hunting ammunition drew fierce words from Republican Senator Jim Nielsen.
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:36:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:36:44 PM EDT
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lolz @ da CA
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:37:35 PM EDT
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They didn't outlaw Safeway yet, so we're still good for dinner for a little while at least.  
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:37:39 PM EDT
[#4]
CA deserves everything they vote for.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:40:27 PM EDT
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My home state

Fuck it, I live in Missouri now.  Watching that place implode is bittersweet.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:41:33 PM EDT
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More for the rest of us in  the free states.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:41:41 PM EDT
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In before the run on frozen dinners.




Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:44:06 PM EDT
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meh cali, not even a blip on my give a fuck meter.
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meh cali, not even a blip on my give a fuck meter.
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Didn't your dimocrats attempt the same thing?

 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:52:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:53:02 PM EDT
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So no more lead ammo for CA? Maybe the panic will finally end....
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:53:08 PM EDT
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"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of
California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it
one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.




The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.



Senators also passed the TRUST Act,
which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning
undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal
authoritie
s. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward
making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part
of the community now.







Its a two hit punch for us



Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:56:25 PM EDT
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"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.

The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.




Its a two hit punch for us


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WTF?!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:56:41 PM EDT
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Born and raised in CA.  Not sorry I left - what a cluster fuck.  If you want to see the potential future, just look thata' way.  This shit spreads like cancer - once it reaches 'critical mass' it is game over ..........................
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:57:02 PM EDT
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lolz @ da CA
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Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:59:52 PM EDT
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I don't know what to say to the Californians here. I was lucky to be born here in KY.

If you can, get the fuck out. You will not win. Period.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:59:56 PM EDT
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:01:30 PM EDT
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Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX
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Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX


It has.  Austin.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:06 PM EDT
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So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:16 PM EDT
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Just when you think shit there can't get any worse, they go and pull a stunt like this. Fuck that commie shithole.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:03:09 PM EDT
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"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.

The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.

Its a two hit punch for us
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So now shooting a deer with cheap ammo will get you in trouble, but being an illegal immigrant won't?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:05:54 PM EDT
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Glad I got the fuck out 6 years ago.  I hear they are going after lead fishing weights as well.  More ammo for us I guess
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:07:37 PM EDT
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Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:08:17 PM EDT
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Holy shit!! I was reading through the article to see if this was a center fire ammo deal or all ammo deal when I read this little jewel

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.

“In immigrant communities across the state of California, they’re losing faith and they’re losing trust in law enforcement,” he said. “And this is not a good sign.”


Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:10:32 PM EDT
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Mostly grew up in California, lived there from '76 til '93. Wouldn't even go back for a visit now.



California is truly living the progressive dream.

       
 
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So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard
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Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:11:22 PM EDT
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Eh, in the short run, we are.  My state (Alaska) passed some pro-gun stuff this year, including expansion of our Stand Your Ground law.  A lot of other states have passed pro-gun stuff.  The only purple state to possibly fall was Colorado and time will tell if they can reverse that in the next election cycle.

It might be more accurate to think that the free states are getting freer with regards to firearms, and the ban states are getting more totalitarian.

There is a long term problem with a third of the US population living behind an iron curtain at the federal level, but in the state level we're doing just fine in Free America.

ETA:  I invested in the Basic Freedom Defense Fund in CO.  I also joined NYSRPA to help their legal fight in the courts.  But honestly, trying to fight back at the polls in the Ban States is futile.  Barring federal action on par with the Civil Rights Act, Connecticut, NY, CA, etc are LOST.  GTFO while you can.  It only takes one victim behind enemy lines to file a lawsuit.  Get your family out and stop feeding the beast.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:12:46 PM EDT
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Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.
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So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:12:48 PM EDT
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Its CA so I don't give a fuck
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:13:03 PM EDT
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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It's a disease...and it's spreading....
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:14:00 PM EDT
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Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate
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Glad I got the fuck out 6 years ago.  I hear they are going after lead fishing weights as well.  More ammo for us I guess


Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate


Ditto for us sandwiched in-between in Oregon.  The left-wing butt-hurt is just as strong here.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:14:06 PM EDT
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You get what you vote for.. I got the fuck out of there a long time ago.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:17:34 PM EDT
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First it was NYC.

I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.



Then it was Chicago.

I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.



Then it was Cali.

I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.



Then it was NY State.

I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.



Then it was Illinois.

I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.



Then it was ___________

I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.
With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

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Yup. How do you boil a frog?




Incrementalism, the enemy understands it.
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CA deserves everything they vote for.
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So by that logic, America deserves everything they vote for.

I guess you voted for Obama, huh?



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:20:31 PM EDT
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You get what you vote for.. I got the fuck out of there a long time ago.
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What makes you think any member from California voted for these assholes?

Did you vote for Obama too?



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:20:45 PM EDT
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I guess I'll be the first to say it.

Fuck California.
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I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
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So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?



Ca. Law Makers don't fucking care.  Look at Mountain Lions in California.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:22:08 PM EDT
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Yeah, that's nice.

Caring and being able to do something about it are galaxies apart in this case.

California is a train wreck happening in slow motion. All anyone can do at this point is watch it happen and try to get out of the way.
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lol



 
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First it was NYC.

I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.



Then it was Chicago.

I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.



Then it was Cali.

I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.



Then it was NY State.

I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.



Then it was Illinois.

I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.



Then it was ___________

I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.
With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

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Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering else where.



Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.



Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:30:03 PM EDT
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Christ, I don't even know of any lead-free .22LR ammo.
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I am not 100% sure it's not center fire only. I thought I read that a few weeks ago.
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Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering HISTORY else where.

Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.

Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  
 
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering HISTORY else where.

Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.

Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  
 



Yet were divided, even amongst this mostly freedom- minded community.
It has all been written.
I believe in "mind your business", so I'm not pushing this on you, but I don't think the answer is "fuck Ca" (with all due respect).
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:53:57 PM EDT
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I am opening up a CA ammo disposal center at the CA/AZ border in Blythe for all of you to send or drop off your icky nasty cancer bullets to for proper disposal.

It's for the children.
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First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





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Wrong

We're becoming two different countries.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:58:43 PM EDT
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California has gone full fucking retard.   It's a sinking ship.  Get out while your house is still worth something.

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So this is law now?
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I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
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So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?


Yes.The fucking morons will demand the state do something, they'll hire professional hunters on taxpayer dime to cull them down. Just like some areas of NY/NJ.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:06:29 PM EDT
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And what eats deer, those will be the 911 calls I will find entertaining...   Especially when it starts happening in the more exclusive neighborhoods and the limousine liberals start loosing their precious pets or get chased back into their homes by APEX predators
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:06:43 PM EDT
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Black Market places are setting up already.
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