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Posted: 9/10/2013 12:08:56 PM EDT
That was quick.
How…unexpected. (Not.) John Kerry said it couldn’t be done. Russia is making sure that it won’t, even if it could be. View Quote Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework to control Syria’s chemical weapons’ stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday. "As I understood, the Russians at this stage were not necessarily enthusiastic, and I’m using euphemism, to put all that into the framework of a U.N. binding resolution,” Laurent Fabius told French lawmakers after a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Obama is being played. The Russian deal forced him to change course and re-write tonight’s speech at the last minute. Now he has to re-write it again, or pretend that the Russians didn’t just drop a flaming bag of something on the White House doorstep. It will be grimly amusing to see what Obama tells the American people about all this now. The words "fiasco” and "clusterf*ck” have been said by others today. He won’t use either word, but that doesn’t mean both don’t apply. Harry Reid pretended that the Russia deal drove him to halt a vote on force in the Senate. The reality is that Democrat votes for force were "dropping like flies,” and the prospect of passage in the House was always grim. Obama lost the Congressional Black Caucus today. Sen. Mitch McConnell came out against bombing today, breaking with the House GOP leaders who had supported it, and probably killing off any chance that the Senate would help Obama out by at least giving him a split vote in Congress. The likelihood now is that he gets rejected by both houses with actual "No” votes or implicitly if neither brings the authorization to a vote, and then has to decide if he wants to strike Syria anyway. Does Barry feel lucky? So Obama is being played by Putin. The question is, does he know or even care that he’s being played? He seemed happy enough to grab Putin’s hand and get out of his jam. Now what’s he going to do? Putin is saying that there will be no quick fix, and that he intends to keep on using the UN to mess around with Obama, promise him a prize, then take it away, over and over again. Playing the part of Lucy, Vlad Putin. Playing the part of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football, Barack Obama. For a while to come. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/russia-backing-away-from-fake-syria-weapons-deal/ |
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I have a feeling this is far from over.
ETA: I guess I really meant that. |
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We're getting trolled by Russia. Putin is making him look like a fucking idiot.
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Putin offered to take the weapons away, and then O decides to take all the credit for himself. Putin says "ok" and pulls this.
This is beyond pathetic. I'm just waiting for O to lose his cool and see who gets killed first. |
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Putin is fucking with O and crew. What a fucking goat rope. Who the fuck is running our foreign policy a fucking 12 year old girl?
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They are backing away from the version that France is about to bring to the UN Security Council, the Russians do not like some of the language in it. There will be lots of negotiations before a proposal is brought to a vote.
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God damn it. I was hoping this shit was over already.
I guess this shit wont end until the formal impeachment reaches the senate. |
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Gee didn't see that coming...
In for the butt hurt tap dancing memes |
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Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Of all the stupid fucking people we could have elected... Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal. When Clinton was running for his second term, polls indicated that people would vote for Ronald Reagan with full-blown Alzheimer's over Clinton (yes, and the Republicans still managed to lose). Reagan in his current state could do a better job than O'Bumble. |
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Well played Vlad, well played. So now it's back to Plan A? I don't know whether to laugh or head for the hills. |
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Of all the stupid fucking people we could have elected... Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal. You got my vote! |
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point.
Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN. Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated. This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing. Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday. View Quote The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC. Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC. Let the UN take control of the CW stocks. |
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What a tangled up mess of crap it's become. The outcome hasn't changed though.
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We're getting trolled by Russia. Putin is making him look like a fucking idiot. View Quote He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway) |
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
We're getting trolled by Russia. Putin is making him look like a fucking idiot. He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway) Agreed. When it's all said and done Russia will be the doiminant force in the Middle East, the US will be on the diplomatic ash heap of history. 100% due to obama's amateurish meddling. |
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they were just waiting for the US to pat itself on the back for it's wonderfully slick diplomacy, and for the press to back the admin up, before they yanked the rug out. |
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
We're getting trolled by Russia. Putin is making him look like a fucking idiot. He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway) I'll bet putin is laughing his ass off at the ease of fucking with this foreigner posing as an American president. |
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That was quick. How…unexpected. (Not.) John Kerry said it couldn’t be done. Russia is making sure that it won’t, even if it could be. View Quote [div style='margin-left: 40px;']Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework to control Syria’s chemical weapons’ stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday. "As I understood, the Russians at this stage were not necessarily enthusiastic, and I’m using euphemism, to put all that into the framework of a U.N. binding resolution,” Laurent Fabius told French lawmakers after a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Obama is being played. The Russian deal forced him to change course and re-write tonight’s speech at the last minute. Now he has to re-write it again, or pretend that the Russians didn’t just drop a flaming bag of something on the White House doorstep. It will be grimly amusing to see what Obama tells the American people about all this now. The words "fiasco” and "clusterf*ck” have been said by others today. He won’t use either word, but that doesn’t mean both don’t apply. Harry Reid pretended that the Russia deal drove him to halt a vote on force in the Senate. The reality is that Democrat votes for force were "dropping like flies,” and the prospect of passage in the House was always grim. Obama lost the Congressional Black Caucus today. Sen. Mitch McConnell came out against bombing today, breaking with the House GOP leaders who had supported it, and probably killing off any chance that the Senate would help Obama out by at least giving him a split vote in Congress. The likelihood now is that he gets rejected by both houses with actual "No” votes or implicitly if neither brings the authorization to a vote, and then has to decide if he wants to strike Syria anyway. Does Barry feel lucky? So Obama is being played by Putin. The question is, does he know or even care that he’s being played? He seemed happy enough to grab Putin’s hand and get out of his jam. Now what’s he going to do? Putin is saying that there will be no quick fix, and that he intends to keep on using the UN to mess around with Obama, promise him a prize, then take it away, over and over again. Playing the part of Lucy, Vlad Putin. Playing the part of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football, Barack Obama. For a while to come. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/russia-backing-away-from-fake-syria-weapons-deal/ View Quote Umm, no. That's not what happened. France and Obama are trying to impose a bunch of conditions into a binding UN Security Council resolution (stuff like "the Syrian regime admits that it used chemical weapons" and "any UN member may use force to implement the conditions of this resolution"). Russian and Syria say "nyet." They Syrians aren't backing away from the Russian proposal, they are backing away from the French proposal. |
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I predict a lot of UMMMs and AHHHHHs during tonight's speech.
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Looking into the crystal ball it's time to warm up the whaambulance for the butt-hurt speech tonight.
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN. Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated. This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing. Italics are mine. The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC. Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC. Let the UN take control of the CW stocks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN. Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated. This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing. Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday. The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC. Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC. Let the UN take control of the CW stocks. Pretty much my take on it, as well. |
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Our first Affirmative Action presdident... What did you expect?
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But...but...Obama *dominated* Putin in person a couple of days ago!
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I told you that the Russians don't play nice. Zero is so outclassed by Putin that it isn't funny anymore. But I'm laughing just the same.
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They should have changed it literally a minute before his speech, so we could see him completely blow it. He isn't capable of speaking, only reading what's on the prompter.
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN. Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol. Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated. This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing. Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday. The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC. Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC. Let the UN take control of the CW stocks. Pretty much my take on it, as well. The other thing that Russia really doesn't want the responsibility for is actually going into Syria and collecting up that crap. They are saying, let the UN do it, it is the UN's job. The domestic reporting on this issue is stupid and incomplete beyond words. Deliberately so. Obama and Kerry are now playing games for purely political purposes. And this is exactly what Putin was talking about when he referred to the obama administration as "liars". He is correct. |
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