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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Which trigger pack? You may have a really good deal.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:20:17 PM EDT
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:20:39 PM EDT
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$900 is a no brainer, don't care what gen pack it has.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:21:15 PM EDT
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger. To be fair I wouldn't buy an AR15 with current price and availability of ammo. 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:21:58 PM EDT
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Depending on shape that is a good deal. I wanted one so bad, got the cash together and made a deal here on the EE to buy but dude backed out, changed his mind, whatever and used the money on something else.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:23:04 PM EDT
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To be fair I wouldn't buy an AR15 with current price and availability of ammo. 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:24:10 PM EDT
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If you want one to add to your collection it would be a good deal.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:24:26 PM EDT
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Get it. That's a great price.
I have an early one with the white donut-o-death sight. It's a fun range toy. It is very compact. I wish I could SBR mine in this state. If the law ever changes I'm doing it first thing. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:25:21 PM EDT
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Buy it, that's a crazy good deal. If you decide you don't like it you could just sell it for a lot more.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:29:13 PM EDT
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Very good deal. I paid significantly more than that for mine in non-panic days (OD TR).
Ammo will be tough to find. Luckily I'm stocked up 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:32:52 PM EDT
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Very good deal. I paid significantly more than that for mine in non-panic days (OD TR). Ammo will be tough to find. Luckily I'm stocked up Isn't the import of the AP ammo for it restricted? |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:33:49 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:38:40 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly. They are nice. 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:40:02 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly. They are nice. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/003-3.jpg  .
5.7 ammo is out there just have to look. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:42:47 PM EDT
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger. This. It was stupid priced even before the panic. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:43:36 PM EDT
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I would FO on that in a flash.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:45:02 PM EDT
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I sold mine for a scar. I loved the gun but more of a novelty toy. The ammo was expensive without much of a bang.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 6:11:03 PM EDT
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This. It was stupid priced even before the panic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger. This. It was stupid priced even before the panic. Around here, pre-panic, it was almost in parity with .223. You have to remember that 5.7 comes in 50 round boxes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:07:40 PM EDT
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Isn't the import of the AP ammo for it restricted? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very good deal. I paid significantly more than that for mine in non-panic days (OD TR). Ammo will be tough to find. Luckily I'm stocked up Isn't the import of the AP ammo for it restricted? No idea. I used AE and SS197 for practice and SS198 for HD and CC (Five Seven as well). |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:14:04 PM EDT
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No idea. I used AE and SS197 for practice and SS198 for HD and CC (Five Seven as well). Only reason I ask is that without the AP ammo (what it was designed for) you've got a fancy looking carbine shooting a pistol round that won't pierce armor. If you're going up against an armored target it's pointless and if you're going up against a soft target you've got over penetration issues. Seems like a lose/lose... no? |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:17:01 PM EDT
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do you even have to ASK?!?!?!
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:19:19 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly. They are nice. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/003-3.jpg Ever thought of dying the stock? |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:19:52 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly. They are nice. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/003-3.jpg Flap? Yes please... Fuuuuuuu!!! I'd love a SBR PS 90... No fucking go in Ca.   
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:20:45 PM EDT
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Around here, pre-panic, it was almost in parity with .223. You have to remember that 5.7 comes in 50 round boxes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger. This. It was stupid priced even before the panic. Around here, pre-panic, it was almost in parity with .223. You have to remember that 5.7 comes in 50 round boxes. I've never gotten why everyone says it's so expensive and hard to find. Pre panic I could go grab a bunch anytime I wanted for 50c/round. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:20:52 PM EDT
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Only reason I ask is that without the AP ammo (what it was designed for) you've got a fancy looking carbine shooting a pistol round that won't pierce armor. If you're going up against an armored target it's pointless and if you're going up against a soft target you've got over penetration issues. Seems like a lose/lose... no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No idea. I used AE and SS197 for practice and SS198 for HD and CC (Five Seven as well). Only reason I ask is that without the AP ammo (what it was designed for) you've got a fancy looking carbine shooting a pistol round that won't pierce armor. If you're going up against an armored target it's pointless and if you're going up against a soft target you've got over penetration issues. Seems like a lose/lose... no? The AP ammo isn't restricted to import. FN chose to not sell it to civilians to avoid issues with selling the PS90 and the FiveseveN pistol You can get the AP spec stuff from other sources. That said, if you're going against an armored target you should be using a .308 and you're probably in more trouble than you're going to get out of on your own. 
The non-AP stuff is ballistic tip and meant to expand. I think there's been some reports of it under-penetrating if anything. If I had to take choose one weapon with 2 magazines to go against your typical mob, I'd take the PS90. 50rnd magazines, low recoil, truly ambidextrous, not terribly menacing looking to avoid escalating. I think it would be a great weapon for extracting yourself from the vicinity of a civil disturbance. I'd rather avoid the trouble though. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:22:11 PM EDT
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I've never gotten why everyone says it's so expensive and hard to find. Pre panic I could go grab a bunch anytime I wanted for 50c/round. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go look up the price and availability of 5.7 before pulling the trigger. This. It was stupid priced even before the panic. Around here, pre-panic, it was almost in parity with .223. You have to remember that 5.7 comes in 50 round boxes. I've never gotten why everyone says it's so expensive and hard to find. Pre panic I could go grab a bunch anytime I wanted for 50c/round. Yeah. The local Cabela's always had it on the shelves. Might still. I'll check tomorrow. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:41:36 PM EDT
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Great deal!
I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the PS90s being sold to LEOs for $799 a while back. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:42:50 PM EDT
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Only reason I ask is that without the AP ammo (what it was designed for) you've got a fancy looking carbine shooting a pistol round that won't pierce armor. If you're going up against an armored target it's pointless and if you're going up against a soft target you've got over penetration issues. Seems like a lose/lose... no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No idea. I used AE and SS197 for practice and SS198 for HD and CC (Five Seven as well). Only reason I ask is that without the AP ammo (what it was designed for) you've got a fancy looking carbine shooting a pistol round that won't pierce armor. If you're going up against an armored target it's pointless and if you're going up against a soft target you've got over penetration issues. Seems like a lose/lose... no? You've got a fancy-looking, small, fast handling, lightweight, low recoil carbine with a 50rd magazine firing a 27grain JHP at about 2600-2700fps. SS198 will defeat Level II armor, but I'm not even using it for that (it has also inconsistently defeated IIIA in some tests). The same round out of my Five Seven pistol is about 2200fps, and I carry a second mag with EA PenetraTOR ammo, which is a little better at going through soft armor. I started carrying that after Aurora (even though he wasn't wearing armor from what I've heard, it convinced me that situations like that can easily happen). As for overpenetration, no. The rounds tend to tumble rather than go straight through. They have pretty decent penetration but not overpenetration. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:43:49 PM EDT
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I want an SBR PS90 badly. They are nice. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/003-3.jpg Ever thought of dying the stock? Why dye the stock, from what I understand, you can't get them in green anymore. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want an SBR PS90 badly. Love mine   |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:49:12 PM EDT
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You've got a fancy-looking, small, fast handling, lightweight, low recoil carbine with a 50rd magazine firing a 27grain JHP at about 2600-2700fps. SS198 will defeat Level II armor, but I'm not even using it for that (it has also inconsistently defeated IIIA in some tests). The same round out of my Five Seven pistol is about 2200fps, and I carry a second mag with EA PenetraTOR ammo, which is a little better at going through soft armor. I started carrying that after Aurora (even though he wasn't wearing armor from what I've heard, it convinced me that situations like that can easily happen). As for overpenetration, no. The rounds tend to tumble rather than go straight through. They have pretty decent penetration but not overpenetration. After redoubt's comment I went looking for some ballistic tests, do you have any youtube links to how it performs with different ammo? Not disagreeing with either of you, just curious to see how the different rounds perform. It seems like from what both of you are saying, and from the test I found where people shot into clay, that it might just be a nice little home defense carbine if you SBR it (the one video I saw where they SBRed it and put a silencer on it made me ). I'm curious what the wound channel is like though and effective distance (I understand that will be dependent on the barrel length).
ETA I'm also curious what the trigger's like, for those of you who own one. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 8:03:59 PM EDT
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Same price as an AK now?
I would have bought it and posted pics by now bragging. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 8:05:13 PM EDT
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I think it's one of the most fun guns to shoot
Ammo is expensive though |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 8:28:12 PM EDT
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Do it now
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