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Posted: 7/19/2013 10:08:21 PM EDT
Apparently H&K isn't fairing well. Some may be happy to hear this due to H&K's quase anti-civi sales policy. I'm thinking a lot oh H&K rifles may be headed our way. It could be a good day if they got on board.


If you speak deutsche

If you don't.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:09:34 PM EDT
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G36 please. And not that sl8 nonsense.

If you build it they will come.
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Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:11:47 PM EDT
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"This situation is unlikely to have any effect on H&K-USA."

yeah there you go
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:12:33 PM EDT
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IIRC, it has more to do with German export laws than anything else.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:13:16 PM EDT
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My sentiments exactly.  If a gun manufacture can't make money hand over fist these past 5 years then it is run by idiots.

Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:13:19 PM EDT
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Good.

They suck and I hate them.  
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:15:23 PM EDT
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Considering how strictly the german government regulates their arms industry (exports in particular) they may not be allowed to build export assault weapons for civilian markets.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:16:13 PM EDT
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How about a semi auto MP5 SBR? It would be great if I could get something like that for under $1000. Otherwise, 9mm AR's work just fine.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:16:52 PM EDT
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Yeah I saw that. I don't believe it for a second. I see $1,800 416's in our future.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:17:04 PM EDT
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Either way, FHK.

Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:17:42 PM EDT
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G36 please. And not that sl8 nonsense.



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Not if I can't get warranty support and parts for it.





 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:18:23 PM EDT
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No shit dude! When you put it like that, it's rather amazing.



 
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No kidding.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:25:48 PM EDT
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If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:25:59 PM EDT
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At what price point would a civie G36 be a decent seller?





$1800?
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:27:24 PM EDT
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If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.
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G36 please. And not that sl8 nonsense.

If you build it they will come.


If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.


If an American company was making it everyone here would heap scorn on it.

And that's coming from an H&K fanboy.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:27:52 PM EDT
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At that price point it would out sell the SCAR 16...I would buy one and I already have a SCAR



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:28:00 PM EDT
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mp7
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Indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself. Their Bundeswehr attitude failed them. Although they just gave our friend Colion Noir an MR762A1 to test. Could be a sign.

Colion
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:32:13 PM EDT
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I think I would have sent a few Germans to Texas, rented a building bought some CNC machines and download the programs and...hit start.

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IIRC, it has more to do with German export laws than anything else.




I think I would have sent a few Germans to Texas, rented a building bought some CNC machines and download the programs and...hit start.





That's the part the government thinks is illegal.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:32:45 PM EDT
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Hell, I'd buy one at that price.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:33:46 PM EDT
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That's some expensive plastic.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:33:47 PM EDT
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funny i couldnt find a USP45 for the life of me a few months ago, maybe they should... make more guns that civi's can buy
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:36:11 PM EDT
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Teach them that their future lies with our civil liberties.

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Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:36:34 PM EDT
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That's some expensive plastic.
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That's some expensive plastic.






Still cheaper than almost all of the non-AR non-AK rifles...



Tavor, AUG, SCAR, ACR... all more than that.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:36:41 PM EDT
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All the PSG shit Stock, Trigger group, grip, plus the heavy bi-pod, scope etc. I have on my 91 is worth more than the bare rifle .
thier new rifles are Fugly!
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:41:04 PM EDT
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Still cheaper than almost all of the non-AR non-AK rifles...

Tavor, AUG, SCAR, ACR... all more than that.
 
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That's some expensive plastic.



Still cheaper than almost all of the non-AR non-AK rifles...

Tavor, AUG, SCAR, ACR... all more than that.
 


Not much improvement over an AR either... Except the SCAR maybe.

However; if you like it, buy it.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:43:17 PM EDT
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7.2 million euros doesn't actually seem like that much for a large company. Plenty of companies have been in far far worse financial situations and survived. I don't think they'll be declaring bankruptcy any time soon.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:43:56 PM EDT
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Still cheaper than almost all of the non-AR non-AK rifles...



Tavor, AUG, SCAR, ACR... all more than that.

 
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Still cheaper than almost all of the non-AR non-AK rifles...



Tavor, AUG, SCAR, ACR... all more than that.

 
My ACR was $1680 new in the box and shipped FWIW.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:44:21 PM EDT
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A civvie legal one has as much chance of happening as the Bren Ten.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:45:25 PM EDT
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Build them here then. They are already building the bastardized 416 here, or parts of it at least.

SIG got around it, and now they're one of the biggest arms makers in the US. They're making a shit ton of money right now.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:47:00 PM EDT
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A civvie legal one has as much chance of happening as the Bren Ten.
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A civvie legal one has as much chance of happening as the Bren Ten.


If it did, it won't have the telescoping stock. It'd most likely be a 'pistol'.

Plus, I've never seen 4.6x30mm ammo on the shelves either.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:47:36 PM EDT
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If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.
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G36 please. And not that sl8 nonsense.

If you build it they will come.


If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.


Yep, the G36 is crap.

I would take a 416 though...
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:48:22 PM EDT
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Tell them I want an HK93, or they can go fuck themselves out of business.
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They're missing their interest payments... Cash flow is the killer rather than debt.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:49:30 PM EDT
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Yep, the G36 is crap.



I would take a 416 though...
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G36 please. And not that sl8 nonsense.



If you build it they will come.




If it wasn't exotic no one would care about it. Shit.




Yep, the G36 is crap.



I would take a 416 though...
I want a REAL semi-auto HK416, not the bastardized MR556.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:50:05 PM EDT
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No shit.  I love my HKs but they must have an obscene profit margin per unit sold.  If they dropped their prices to glock+10% they wouldn't be able to handle the volume.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:51:31 PM EDT
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This FTMFW.

There was a time I would have welcomed them.  Then I found Knight's Armament.  I gave all my fvcks to KAC.  No fvcks can be given to HK.

FHK. (I won't, but you can)
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:55:12 PM EDT
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Yup.

Even though we suck and they hate us, HK USA does still sell guns to the American public.  Maybe big HK will take the hint.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:55:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:58:11 PM EDT
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Mabye they would do better if the bullets face the other side




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No shit.  I love my HKs but they must have an obscene profit margin per unit sold.  If they dropped their prices to glock+10% they wouldn't be able to handle the volume.
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No shit.  I love my HKs but they must have an obscene profit margin per unit sold.  If they dropped their prices to glock+10% they wouldn't be able to handle the volume.


All they would have to do is make a non bastardizes 416, and reduce the price of their pistols 10-15%. They would sell like hotcakes.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:59:01 PM EDT
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id love a semi mp5 pistol.... full size, or sp-89, for $1000-$1500.00. then sbr it. bonus points if they sold the 10mm, mp5.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 10:59:38 PM EDT
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It was called the SP89, and falls under Clinton's 1993 import ban.

ETA: partially beaten by 37 seconds.

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Link Posted: 7/19/2013 11:09:13 PM EDT
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MP5

MP7

UMP

G36

ETA: MP5K pistol
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 11:14:28 PM EDT
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Well when a beat to shit demilled mp5 parts kit goes for 1900 bucks you have to wonder how much
Market share they are missing.
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 11:24:50 PM EDT
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Good! Maybe I can get this german hunk of shit off my hip! Will someone please explain to my why in the U.S. I'm issued a "Made in Germany" gun? Its NONSENSE!
Link Posted: 7/19/2013 11:26:50 PM EDT
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MP7 and g36 please.

Id really like a mp7 in 22lr
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