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Posted: 4/11/2013 4:01:52 AM EDT
Might as well get a thread up now....




               Thursday, Apr 11, 2013
           






           


9:30 a.m.: Convene and resume consideration of the motion to proceed to S.649, the Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013.













http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

UPDATE:





ROLL CALL VOTE





http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00095






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Contact info for those that voted yea.





Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) [url]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kelly-Ayotte/134517281170[/ulr]





Richard Burr (N.C.) http://www.facebook.com/SenatorRichardBurr





Saxby Chambliss (Ga.) http://www.chambliss.senate.gov/public/index.cfm https://twitter.com/SaxbyChambliss





Tom Coburn (Okla.) http://www.facebook.com/teamcoburn





Susan Collins (Maine) http://www.facebook.com/susancollins





Bob Corker (Tenn.) http://www.facebook.com/bobcorker





Jeff Flake (Ariz.) [url]http://www.facebook.com/JeffFlake1[url=http://





Lindsey Graham (S.C.) http://www.facebook.com/USSenatorLindseyGraham





Dean Heller (Nev.) http://www.facebook.com/SenDeanHeller





John Hoeven (N.D.) http://www.facebook.com/SenatorJohnHoeven





Johnny Isakson (Ga.) http://www.facebook.com/isakson





Mark Kirk (Ill.) http://www.facebook.com/SenatorKirk





John McCain (Ariz.) http://www.facebook.com/johnmccain





Pat Toomey (Pa.) https://www.facebook.com/senatortoomey





Roger Wicker (Miss.) https://www.facebook.com/wicker





Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) http://www.facebook.com/lamaralexander]
 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:06:46 AM EDT
[#1]
MIKE LEE from yesterday. (7 mins)



http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/312017-7



 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:08:35 AM EDT
[#2]
even the name of the bill is propaganda.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:11:21 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


even the name of the bill is propaganda.


You hate school children don't you?



 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:11:51 AM EDT
[#4]
They're probably setting up the concentration camps right now.  Any minute they're going to break down your door and beat the living dog shit out of you with big saps.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:14:34 AM EDT
[#5]
They can resume the discussion of the bill but the first vote on the motion to proceed cannot happen until at least 10:30am.  That is when the cloture motion that Reid submitted Tuesday matures.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:14:44 AM EDT
[#6]
If this passes we are screwed. This legislation essentially will create a registery. It states that the AG has 1 year to create a publicly viewed website of States rankings of NICS checks and is left open ended for registration.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:23:51 AM EDT
[#7]
And I'm in.

*edit

Great speech by Lee
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:45:10 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


And I'm in.



*edit



Great speech by Lee


Here's a few more while we're waiting.















 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 4:59:25 AM EDT
[#9]
I was unnerved by Murphy, but Blumenthal out-stupids him by miles.  

It's all about feelings, and "seizing this oppoortunity", that has, by his own admission, been his focus for many years.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:01:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Why do I have a feeling I'll be going to bed pissed off later?
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:01:57 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Why do I have a feeling I'll be going to bed pissed off later?


Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:10:30 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Why do I have a feeling I'll be going to bed pissed off later?


Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:13:54 AM EDT
[#13]
Great points made by Mike Lee.  What is unreasonable about delaying debate until you can actually read the text of key components of the bill such as the Toomey-Manchin compromise.

Now CSPAN is re-running the Toomey-Manchin conference.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:16:23 AM EDT
[#14]
If there was a drinking game and "common sense" was the drinking word, we'd be in a coma within 15 minutes......
 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:18:27 AM EDT
[#15]
Well, Ms. Parks, if you pass a background check, you get to ride in the front of the bus.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:18:49 AM EDT
[#16]
In.  Watching now. . Fuck Kirk.



I don't trust him.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:21:39 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


In.  Watching now. . Fuck Kirk.



I don't trust him.  


Kirk?







 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:22:16 AM EDT
[#18]
I wish politicians were issued an AIDS covered cactus on their first day on The Hill and they were required to sit on said cactus every day.

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Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:22:26 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:
In.  Watching now. . Fuck Kirk.

I don't trust him.  

Kirk?


 


He's a Picard fan
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:29:37 AM EDT
[#20]
Every time Manchin says "gunsense" I am overcome with this insane urge to punch him in the fucking head.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:30:38 AM EDT
[#21]
Vote on motion to proceed scheduled for 11am Eastern
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:31:14 AM EDT
[#22]
Just tried calling the Senate switchboard, I hung up after being on hold for 5 minutes. Hopefully a good sign. Hit both my Senators yesterday with emails.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:33:46 AM EDT
[#23]
AND WE'RE OFF!!


 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:34:34 AM EDT
[#24]
Reid wants to begin debate on the bill today. First amendment to be offered will be Toomey-Manchin.  Nobody has even seen the fucking text yet and they want to bring it up immediately.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:36:54 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


Reid wants to begin debate on the bill today. First amendment to be offered will be Toomey-Manchin.  Nobody has even seen the fucking text yet and they want to bring it up immediately.


They have to pass it to see what is in it!

 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:38:05 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Reid wants to begin debate on the bill today. First amendment to be offered will be Toomey-Manchin.  Nobody has even seen the fucking text yet and they want to bring it up immediately.

They have to pass it to see what is in it!  


They don't give a damn about the details as long as it furthers their ultimate agenda.  Setting a precedent that every shooting means new gun laws and inching them ever closer to the repeal of the 2nd amendment.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:39:12 AM EDT
[#27]
In on one for watching this train wreck happen. I just hope there are enough reps loyal to their oath and the constitution to keep this at bay.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:40:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
In on one for watching this train wreck happen. I just hope there are enough reps loyal to their oath and the constitution to keep this at bay.


Lets hope

Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:41:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Thanks for the link. I'll be watching this.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:41:45 AM EDT
[#30]
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:42:48 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.


That is terrifying

Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:42:50 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.


Yep and you'll see the mag ban and AW ban proposed as amendments.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:44:41 AM EDT
[#33]
The IHOP shooting was done w/ a full auto?
 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:44:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Mitch McConnel seems pretty solid.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:45:40 AM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.




That is terrifying





No, it's good.



It'll get so loaded that its' overall failure is more likely.





 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:45:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Reid wants to begin debate on the bill today. First amendment to be offered will be Toomey-Manchin.  Nobody has even seen the fucking text yet and they want to bring it up immediately.

They have to pass it to see what is in it!  


Yes, they are trying to sell a pig-in-a-poke.  Reid wants to suspend the usual rule requiring a 30-hour delay after the motion to proceed vote in order to bring a vote on the Toomey-Manchin Amendment today before any of us can read the text and hammer our Senators on it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:46:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.


That is terrifying


No, it's good.

It'll get so loaded that its' overall failure is more likely.

 


Alternatively, voting down the amendments gives cover to the fence sitters on the right who are considering voting for the overall bill.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:47:57 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.


That is terrifying


No, it's good.

It'll get so loaded that its' overall failure is more likely.

 


+1

Let's get the battle lines started.

Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:48:26 AM EDT
[#39]
Hopefully the Republican's have a plan to introduce a dozen poison pills using vague language. For example talking about registration but then having it only apply to machine guns and have the end result simply be opening back up the registry.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:48:32 AM EDT
[#40]
If it passes everyone should lose a gun and DEMAND to report it to the attorney general.  I will not speak to ANYONE but Eric Holder himself as the law states.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:48:40 AM EDT
[#41]
The world needs to move on from Newtown and let them get their lives back to some form of normalcy.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:48:56 AM EDT
[#42]
Sen. Blumenthal needs to talk about the bill, but again, the left is using the tragedy as propaganda...
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:49:53 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
If it passes everyone should lose a gun and DEMAND to report it to the attorney general.  I will not speak to ANYONE but Eric Holder himself as the law states.


If this passes you will see the end of private gun ownership in the United States in our lifetime.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:50:20 AM EDT
[#44]



Quoted:


The world needs to move on from Newtown and let them get their lives back to some form of normalcy.


Then how would the anti-gunners exploit their murders?



 
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:50:34 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
They're probably setting up the concentration camps right now.  Any minute they're going to break down your door and beat the living dog shit out of you with big saps.


I just hope they send me to Dachau not Treblinka.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:51:00 AM EDT
[#46]
Blumenthal

Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:51:16 AM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:51:29 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Reid says the bill will be open to all amendments.


That is terrifying



Amendment still have to be voted on and passed.  Also each amendment could be filibustered if someone wanted to put in the effort.
Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:51:29 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If it passes everyone should lose a gun and DEMAND to report it to the attorney general.  I will not speak to ANYONE but Eric Holder himself as the law states.


If this passes you will see the end of private gun ownership in the United States in our lifetime.


I told you, he's pulling the photos up...

Link Posted: 4/11/2013 5:52:08 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
I wish politicians were issued an AIDS covered cactus on their first day on The Hill and they were required to sit on said cactus every day.

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